Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

[jatiger13]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Well, framerates actually has a lot to do with the quality of a game. A poorly made game will have stuttering or spiking fps. Meanwhile, a game that is made well, will have steady fps. Steady fps leads to smooth gameplay. So saying that it's arbitrary is just asinine.
Do you want a game that goes from 30fps, down to 18fps, up to 25 fps, back down to 20 and then up to 30 again? No, because that wouldn't be good at all. Bordering on unplayable, imo. So fps has a lot to do with the quality of a game.

If you'd have said that framerates has little to do with making a game more fun, I might have been more inclined to agree with you. But you said that is has little to do with the quality of a game, which is just asinine.
___________

I didn't want to throw this in here, nor did I think it was needed, but I'm a former dev. So I have experience and know wtf I'm talking about.

[ODogg]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Well, framerates actually has a lot to do with the quality of a game. A poorly made game will have stuttering or spiking fps. Meanwhile, a game that is made well, will have steady fps. Steady fps leads to smooth gameplay. So saying that it's arbitrary is just asinine.
Do you want a game that goes from 30fps, down to 18fps, up to 25 fps, back down to 20 and then up to 30 again? No, because that wouldn't be good at all. Bordering on unplayable, imo. So fps has a lot to do with the quality of a game.

If you'd have said that framerates has little to do with making a game more fun, I might have been more inclined to agree with you. But you said that is has little to do with the quality of a game, which is just asinine.
___________

I didn't want to throw this in here, nor did I think it was needed, but I'm a former dev. So I have experience and know wtf I'm talking about.

resolution is in the eye of the beholder and it's debatable about how much it can help or hurt gameplay but the same doesn't hold for frame rate. A game with rock steady 60FPS is always going to control better and, thus be more enjoyable to play, than a game with 30FPS or a peaks and valley FPS...that's just reality of human perception and how the brain works..

[ricky24]

Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Well, framerates actually has a lot to do with the quality of a game. A poorly made game will have stuttering or spiking fps. Meanwhile, a game that is made well, will have steady fps. Steady fps leads to smooth gameplay. So saying that it's arbitrary is just asinine.

Do you want a game that goes from 30fps, down to 18fps, up to 25 fps, back down to 20 and then up to 30 again? No, because that wouldn't be good at all. Bordering on unplayable, imo. So fps has a lot to do with the quality of a game.



If you'd have said that framerates has little to do with making a game more fun, I might have been more inclined to agree with you. But you said that is has little to do with the quality of a game, which is just asinine.

___________



I didn't want to throw this in here, nor did I think it was needed, but I'm a former dev. So I have experience and know wtf I'm talking about.

He didn't say frame rate was not important he said the bench mark of 1080/60 is not that important. Which is Absolutely true. Everyone knows a consistent frame rate is much more important than resolution.

When I play sunset overdrive I don't sit there and think the game is worse because it's 30 fps. I sit there and think about how smooth it runs with all the action going on on the screen.

[ricky24]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

a game with rock steady 60FPS is always going to control better and, thus be more enjoyable to play, than a game with 30FPS or a peaks and valley FPS...that's just reality of human perception and how the brain works..

So an open world shooter running at 30 fps is less enjoyable to play than a racing game running at 60 fps? My brain doesn't work that way.

[ODogg]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

So an open world shooter running at 30 fps is less enjoyable to play than a racing game running at 60 fps? My brain doesn't work that way.

Apples and oranges, an open world shooter running at 60fps is better than one running at 30fps

[ricky24]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

What open world shooter on a console is running at 60fps?

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Get both. Problem solved.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4

[Artman22]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Anyone who knows anything about pixels/resolution or game development in general, knows that higher resolution equals better image quality. Also, higher framerate equals smoother gameplay. Therefore, if devs take advantage of the PS4's full power, the PS4 versions of games will always play better. But instead they dumb down the PS4 versions, so that its level with the XBOne.





As for who complained about the XBOne's lack of power. Ubisoft and at least 2 more. So saying "several" in that regard was maybe overstating the fact.

However, more dev companies have complained about the XBOne's inferior RAM, making it more complex to program for. Ubisoft, Rockstar and a few others.





Again, I own both and like both. But the PS4 gets more play. I only use the XBOne for the exclusives on that console. Multiplats always gets played on PS4. There is a noticeable difference between the two on many multiplat titles. One that comes to mind right now is WatchDogs. I played it on both consoles and it looks significantly better on the PS4. Much crisper

So we're going to keep repeating the same thing for how long? I think the argument is getting old and blown out of proportion. All the new sports games look nearly identical on both consoles which is what I mostly play. They've both been 1080 60fps too and look good. Tell me one game that had less fps on the Xbox version compared to the ps4?. The difference has mainly been 900 vs 1080. That's not a substantial difference and in all reality if all you care about is graphics you shouldn't even be gaming on consoles. PC is what you should be looking at. In the end no resolution matters if you don't have any good exclusives. Theses are gaming consoles and the most important part should be games. I'd personally take a trade off of 900p vs 1080p if I'm offered more features and a more stable multiplayer network. Both consoles have pros and cons.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Artman22]

Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

resolution is in the eye of the beholder and it's debatable about how much it can help or hurt gameplay but the same doesn't hold for frame rate. A game with rock steady 60FPS is always going to control better and, thus be more enjoyable to play, than a game with 30FPS or a peaks and valley FPS...that's just reality of human perception and how the brain works..

The problem is that besides sports games neither console has been able to consistently make games at 1080/60. So this argument doesn't make sense. I would agree with you if one console was ALWAYS runny 60fps while the other was at 30fps, but that's clearly not the case.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[ODogg]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

What open world shooter on a console is running at 60fps?

Ok racing game then, you are avoiding the point on semantics

[ODogg]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

The problem is that besides sports games neither console has been able to consistently make games at 1080/60. So this argument doesn't make sense. I would agree with you if one console was ALWAYS runny 60fps while the other was at 30fps, but that's clearly not the case.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

True but one has done it much better than the other..

[ricky24]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Ok racing game then, you are avoiding the point on semantics

No I'm not. Neither of these consoles are running certain types of games at 60fps. Both can run first person shooters and racers at 60fps. If people are going to cry when open world shooters run at 30fps then neither of these consoles are for them.

[ricky24]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

True but one has done it much better than the other..

I must be missing something. What game is running at 60 fps on one console and 30 on the other?

[Artman22]

Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

True but one has done it a little better than the other..

There I fixed it for you lol. *A little better* but absolutely nothing substantial. And, when we have to look hard to notice a difference it becomes minute and a joke to say one looks much better. Also, when there are differences they are very small and you know this Odogg especially on all the new games. Look, there's no denying that the ps4 has the better hardware, but for you to say the same games are looking much better isn't truthful.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[jatiger13]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

If you have ever played one game at 30fps on console and later the same game at 60fps on PC, you'll know that the difference between 30fps and 60fps is huge. Its hard to go back to play the 30fps game after that.

60fps is a much better experience. In the future, as the devs learn how to develop and optimize games on the new consoles better, the gap between the XB1 games and the PS4 games should get much larger, in the favor of the PS4.
Unless the devs nerf the PS4 versions.
That's not my opinion, that's a statement of fact. I have looked at the hardware specs and configs. Devs don't have an excuse to have both looking the same, when one is significantly more powerful than the other.