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  • daniel77733
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    • Nov 2011
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    #271
    Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by The JareBear
    It's definitely a good discussion going on in here. I think EG has been right on about a number of things.

    I pre-ordered my Pro yesterday, and I had planned in going in next week to buy PS4 Slim, but honestly I feel they hit a home run with the Pro pricing, and really missed with the Slim pricing. 300 bucks gets you much more, IMO, with the Xbox S.

    Honestly, as much as it pains me, I may just have to be a grown up and be patient an wait until Nov 10 to own a console again.
    If you going to buy the PS4 Slim, why don't you just buy the Xbox One Slim and play whatever while waiting for Pro and you then can have both consoles and play everything.

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    • dickey1331
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      • Sep 2009
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      #272
      Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

      Those charts make no sense. The first one says 2012 was $6 billion in revenue for DVDs and the 2nd one says a little over $2 billion in sales. Unless I'm missing something that doesn't add up.


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      • The JareBear
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        • Jul 2010
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        #273
        Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by daniel77733
        If you going to buy the PS4 Slim, why don't you just buy the Xbox One Slim and play whatever while waiting for Pro and you then can have both consoles and play everything.
        I haven't done a good job explaining my dilemma.

        Basically I am just impatient, most of my friends play PS4, I miss the party chat fun times, and I have a decent library of games on my PS4 as well.

        I need to decide if I feel confident I can sell the Slim for 200 or more when the Pro comes out.

        Anyway. Who knows.
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        • Picci
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          • Feb 2003
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          #274
          Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by dickey1331
          Those charts make no sense. The first one says 2012 was $6 billion in revenue for DVDs and the 2nd one says a little over $2 billion in sales. Unless I'm missing something that doesn't add up.


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          Revenues are anything that generates dollars taken in....examples are rentals, sales, anything else used to generate earnings.

          Sales are per units sold.

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          • daniel77733
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            • Nov 2011
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            #275
            Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by The JareBear
            I haven't done a good job explaining my dilemma.

            Basically I am just impatient, most of my friends play PS4, I miss the party chat fun times, and I have a decent library of games on my PS4 as well.

            I need to decide if I feel confident I can sell the Slim for 200 or more when the Pro comes out.

            Anyway. Who knows.
            Okay, I gotcha now. I thought you had Xbox One before and was just waiting to get it back but was waiting to see the price/release date of the slim/pro before doing so. On the bright side, you only have two months to go and if The Last Guardian is your next main game, you'll only have a two week wait after that which isn't a big deal.

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            • Smallville102001
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              • Mar 2015
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              #276
              Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
              Absolutely not. It's seriously a big deal for maybe 10% of the people buying the thing and that's probably even a high estimate.


              I don't buy that only 10% care about a 4k bluray drive. No way it has got to be much higher. Sony messed up big time with that. I don't know if that is true that people don't buy disk basic movies much any more because I know when it comes to games 80% of sales are still disk and only 20% are digital. I don't see why movies would be much different. A lot of people still don't have a fast internet and downloading movies can take a long time.

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              • KingTocco
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                • Jul 2012
                • 3158

                #277
                Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by The JareBear
                I haven't done a good job explaining my dilemma.

                Basically I am just impatient, most of my friends play PS4, I miss the party chat fun times, and I have a decent library of games on my PS4 as well.

                I need to decide if I feel confident I can sell the Slim for 200 or more when the Pro comes out.

                Anyway. Who knows.
                Might not get $200 at GameStop or a different store but I'm pretty confident you could sell a slightly used for 1.5 months PS4 slim for $200 on Craigslist or something.
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                • ExtremeGamer
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #278
                  Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Smallville102001
                  I don't buy that only 10% care about a 4k bluray drive. No way it has got to be much higher. Sony messed up big time with that. I don't know if that is true that people don't buy disk basic movies much any more because I know when it comes to games 80% of sales are still disk and only 20% are digital. I don't see why movies would be much different. A lot of people still don't have a fast internet and downloading movies can take a long time.


                  Vocal minority. UHD discs aren't selling at all. Sure, there's people buying them, but nothing like when blu ray when it launched.


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                  • DanH35
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #279
                    Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                    Vocal minority. UHD discs aren't selling at all. Sure, there's people buying them, but nothing like when blu ray when it launched.


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                    The launch numbers for the UHD discs were better than standard blu-ray launch, the UHD discs sold double:

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                    • DieHardYankee26
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                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #280
                      Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Smallville102001
                      I don't buy that only 10% care about a 4k bluray drive. No way it has got to be much higher. Sony messed up big time with that. I don't know if that is true that people don't buy disk basic movies much any more because I know when it comes to games 80% of sales are still disk and only 20% are digital. I don't see why movies would be much different. A lot of people still don't have a fast internet and downloading movies can take a long time.
                      I'm confused how you can know Netflix exists and how big it is and make statements like this.

                      Movies and games are clearly different, as are music and games, where very few physical copies are being sold. Gaming is the last thing holding on and it's because the files are just way bigger.
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                      • DanH35
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #281
                        Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        I'm confused how you can know Netflix exists and how big it is and make statements like this.

                        Movies and games are clearly different, as are music and games, where very few physical copies are being sold. Gaming is the last thing holding on and it's because the files are just way bigger.
                        A lot of the people that watch streaming movies don't care about the picture quality, and those are probably also the same people that still buy DVDs. But I'm willing the bet if somebody paid money to get a 4K TV, they do care about the picture quality, and they want 4K content. You need really good internet service to stream 4K content, and even then, the picture quality isn't the same as disc. That type of internet service isn't widely available. There's definitely a market for 4K Blu-ray.

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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
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                          #282
                          Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                          Maybe that was true when 4K Tvs were 5 grand, but a year from now anyone buying a new TV will just be getting a 4K one, then it becomes the norm. When everyone has a 4K TV, who will win out? The enthusiasts or the majority?
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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
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                            • Oct 2011
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                            #283
                            Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                            I'm really happy with the price of the pro .
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                            • Blzer
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                              #284
                              Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by DanH35
                              The launch numbers for the UHD discs were better than standard blu-ray launch, the UHD discs sold double:

                              http://degonline.org/wp-content/uplo...Cover-Note.pdf
                              To be fair though, Blu-ray was in a format war with HD-DVD at the beginning. Some people were buying that instead.

                              Blu-ray really hit its stride when The Dark Knight came out in December of 2008. I don't know what BD will make UHD the big seller. Perhaps the next Avatar?
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                              • NYGiants4Natic
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                                #285
                                Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                                Vocal minority. UHD discs aren't selling at all. Sure, there's people buying them, but nothing like when blu ray when it launched.


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                                Well because there were more 1080p sets in the wild when blu ray was out then 4K tvs out now

                                And remember how expensive blu ray players were

                                Today unless you get the xbox slim you are paying 400 to 500 just for a dedicated 4K UHD player. As more people get into 4K displays which is growing every day the UHD players will drop in price and movie purchasing will go up.

                                No streaming services in 4K will ever come close to the 4K UHD player quality. If you want to know what your 4K tv does it can only be shown by a 4K UHD player.

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