U.S Music Album sales down 7%

[bball_1523]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Once they start making in-dash mp3 players, I won't need CDs anymore.

Once that happens, it would make it easier to just buy cd's online, but the artwork slips are still missing. I like seeing cd cases with cool art work. Just having a real cd case in my hand feels good. I am not sure how you can deal with the art work, lyrics, etc.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Once that happens, it would make it easier to just buy cd's online, but the artwork slips are still missing. I like seeing cd cases with cool art work. Just having a real cd case in my hand feels good. I am not sure how you can deal with the art work, lyrics, etc.

I admit, I enjoy the art on CD covers, but they're just sitting in my closet, stacked up on a shelf, taking up space.

What would be really cool, would be an online database, whether it be through iTunes or a seperate website that keeps track of the albums you have downloaded. I'm talking about when you can only download albums, which is still a long whiel off. You download the album, then the art, lyrics, etc is uploaded to a virtual CD booklet on said website. That'd be pretty cool IMO.

[pk500]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Downloading is still huge.

It's bigger than ever, in fact. From slyck.com:

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January 2005 began with 8.4 million individuals connected to various P2P networks at any given time. Despite 8,559 “John Doe” lawsuits, MGM’s victory over Grokster, the fall of i2Hub, the demise of commercial P2P, and the union of Bram Cohen and the MPAA, the P2P population managed to expand by 1.1 million individuals in 2005. The great variable – BitTorrent - is not so easily calculable, leaving many to speculate how enormous the file-sharing community truly is, and how much it will grow in 2006.
<<<<<

Rock on.

Take care,
PK

[bball_1523]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

I admit, I enjoy the art on CD covers, but they're just sitting in my closet, stacked up on a shelf, taking up space.

What would be really cool, would be an online database, whether it be through iTunes or a seperate website that keeps track of the albums you have downloaded. I'm talking about when you can only download albums, which is still a long whiel off. You download the album, then the art, lyrics, etc is uploaded to a virtual CD booklet on said website. That'd be pretty cool IMO.

well, the thing that is missing is the physical aspect of having cd. I also have cd's stacking up, but I love knowing that I purchased a CD and that it is supporting a band I care about.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

well, the thing that is missing is the physical aspect of having cd. I also have cd's stacking up, but I love knowing that I purchased a CD and that it is supporting a band I care about.

Yes, but the phsyical aspect of actually being able to hold the music will be extinct. Mail is experiencing the same thing due to e-mail. Cash is going through a similar phase out thanks to credit cards, debit cards, checks, and online shopping & banking.

[bball_1523]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Yes, but the phsyical aspect of actually being able to hold the music will be extinct. Mail is experiencing the same thing due to e-mail. Cash is going through a similar phase out thanks to credit cards, debit cards, checks, and online shopping & banking.

true, but it just feels good to see the physical cd booklet inside the case, stacked in your room. I guess we can live without them if we can buy cd's online for fair prices. The good thing about online is that you won't have a shortage. Now the big deal is quality, they need to make high quality mp3's or something, not 128 kbps.

[Jimplication]

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And most parents don't know enough about it to tell them to stop.

I'm not sure it's a safe assumption that parents are against kids downloading music for free..

My parents, for instance, consider downloading MP3s to be the equivalent of taping a song off the radio. Furthermore, they also feel that if something is available freely online, there is nothing wrong with taking it.

The issue is the people uploading and hosting the MP3s, not those downloading them; and that is who the RIAA is going after, regardless of whether they and their practices are justified or not.

[bball_1523]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

I'm not sure it's a safe assumption that parents are against kids downloading music for free..

My parents, for instance, consider downloading MP3s to be the equivalent of taping a song off the radio. Furthermore, they also feel that if something is available freely online, there is nothing wrong with taking it.

The issue is the people uploading and hosting the MP3s, not those downloading them; and that is who the RIAA is going after, regardless of whether they and their practices are justified or not.

I think this whole downloading mp3 issue is still up in the air. Sure according to copyright laws it is illegal, but you must understand there are many many pro musicians that don't care if you download their songs. Not only that, there are people like me who support it. I am sure many parents either don't care or support it. So what if the copyright law states something, I think the copyright law is up in the air too, I highly disagree with it.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Whether or not you agree or disagree with the copyright laws, its still illegal.

[Victor99]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

Whether or not you agree or disagree with the copyright laws, its still illegal.

Absolutely. The law is the law.

[dieselboy]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

It's bigger than ever, in fact. From slyck.com:

>>>>>
January 2005 began with 8.4 million individuals connected to various P2P networks at any given time. Despite 8,559 “John Doe” lawsuits, MGM’s victory over Grokster, the fall of i2Hub, the demise of commercial P2P, and the union of Bram Cohen and the MPAA, the P2P population managed to expand by 1.1 million individuals in 2005. The great variable – BitTorrent - is not so easily calculable, leaving many to speculate how enormous the file-sharing community truly is, and how much it will grow in 2006.
<<<<<

Rock on.

Take care,
PK

I'm not suprised.

[CM1847]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

I'm not sure it's a safe assumption that parents are against kids downloading music for free..

My parents, for instance, consider downloading MP3s to be the equivalent of taping a song off the radio. Furthermore, they also feel that if something is available freely online, there is nothing wrong with taking it.

The issue is the people uploading and hosting the MP3s, not those downloading them; and that is who the RIAA is going after, regardless of whether they and their practices are justified or not.

You just reiterated my point. Most parents see that music can get had for free online, so assume it must be legal. A lot of parents just aren't informed enough about the thousand dollar law suits that can be filed because their kid had to get that new Linkin Park song. If most parents knew that they could get a letter in the mail about a $500,000 lawsuit over their kids downloading music, they would probably be more strict about it. But, like your parents, most just equate it to taping off of a radio station or recording a video from MTV.

Originally Posted by Fresh Tendrils
Yes, but the phsyical aspect of actually being able to hold the music will be extinct. Mail is experiencing the same thing due to e-mail. Cash is going through a similar phase out thanks to credit cards, debit cards, checks, and online shopping & banking.

That isn't going away anytime soon because way too many people still buy CDs. It is still a multi-million dollar business and converting everything to online sale isn't practical right now and it would absolutely kill the music industry in terms of profits. Not everyone just stacks their CD cases in the closet, most people still choose to buy CDs rather than get them online. I could see it happening, but not for another 20+ years, you have to think that everybody needs access to high speed internet in order for something like that to work, that itself is so far off that it really isn't practical.

[Vince]

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the problem with itunes, and my sister is dealing with this now, is that they don't have a lot of songs from the 80's. My sister is 25 and she likes Duran Duran, Bon Jovi, Toto, New Kids on the Block(lol). She likes listening to the songs she listened 10-15 years ago, but you just can't find that on itunes(well you can see some, but they're limited to maybe 10 songs).

[PSU]

Re: U.S Music Album sales down 7%

It's not the people who are downloading illegal music who they are going after... it's the people who are sharing and hosting their music to millions. Anyway the music and movie industry deserve every penny they are losing by illegal downloading and they wont be able to stop it, thats the bottom line.

[SPTO]

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I imagine that record stores will be obsolete pretty soon too. Everything will be bought online and downloaded.

I wouldn't say they'd be obsolete completely. I think what will happen is that they'll shift to electronics, DVDs and video games. In essence it'd be a merger of Best Buy and your local record store. I know I would be sad if I couldn't get DVDs physically as I like to actually get my purchases right away.