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  • Skerik
    Living in this tube
    • Mar 2004
    • 5215

    #1

    What makes art art?

    I ask because of the following article.

    Berlin (AFP) – The German FA’s (DFB) inquiry into the 2006 World Cup scandal is set to cost around 3.5 million euros ($3.83m), interim


    I've seen some of Duchamp's stuff at the Philadelphia Art Museum and while it's not the most visually appealing stuff you'll ever see, it makes you think a little. By taking mundane, everyday objects like a urinal and putting them on public display in a museum, Duchamp forces the viewer to consider the object differently than they would in its normal setting. He uses change of setting and context to attack the notion of what makes art art - is it the object itself or the way in which we view the object?

    I originally didn't get what he was doing and thought his stuff was stupid and simplistic, but when you think of artists like him more as social commentators or philosophers instead of artists, the point he's trying to make is a little easier to understand. I'm not sure it's art per se, but it's at least intelligible to the layperson. Or to me, anyway.

    Most people look at modern art and think, "I could do that!" But I'm learning that it's not so much about the physical act of hanging something like a urinal on a well, but the idea of hanging one in a museum and forcing people to consider it as art. But are these people to be considered "artists?" I'm not too sure about that....
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  • dkgojackets
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 13816

    #2
    Re: What makes art art?

    Duchamp's 1917 piece _ an ordinary white, porcelain urinal that's been called one of the most influential works of modern art
    "Fountain" is estimated at $3.6 million.
    OMG...

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    • Karlos05
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      • Mar 2003
      • 5814

      #3
      Re: What makes art art?

      I actually studied about DuChamp, "Fountain" and his other readymades in my Art History class last semester.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42516

        #4
        Re: What makes art art?

        As many things in life, I'll consider some pieces of art overrated. I draw Garfield, and people will call it crap. Jean-François Millet squiggles a red pen on paper, and it's worth $3.6 mil.


        But, you gotta love art. I love how interpretative every piece is. I don't appreciate the dollar values or rankings, though.
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        • dkgojackets
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 13816

          #5
          Re: What makes art art?

          If you have to tell me its art, then it isnt art.

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          • bgeno
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 4321

            #6
            Re: What makes art art?

            Originally posted by Blzer
            As many things in life, I'll consider some pieces of art overrated. I draw Garfield, and people will call it crap. Jean-François Millet squiggles a red pen on paper, and it's worth $3.6 mil.


            But, you gotta love art. I love how interpretative every piece is. I don't appreciate the dollar values or rankings, though.
            That's pretty much the exact way I feel.

            It's up to the person viewing or listening to the art. If it evokes enough emotion or if it makes you think longer than a few seconds, I think it's art.

            Each peice has it's own meaning, but I think the best are the ones that allow for open interpretation.

            Of course, I'm no art conoosiuer(or much of a speller for that matter) in any sense of the word, but I appreciate something that makes me think and draws deep emotion.
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