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  • RoyalBoyle78
    Aka."Footballforever"
    • May 2003
    • 23918

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    NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

    is there anyone here upset and worried that they may have a harder time paying there credit cards, now that the goverment is making the credit card companys raise your minimum paymet, I mean I always pay more then my mimimum, but man this may hurt they hell out of people bigtime, I mean what if people can't pay the extra money, I think in a way it's good to help people, but I also think is really wrong for people bigtime. I mean that why it's called credit. WOW this is killer.


    A new credit card law aimed at helping consumers get out of debt went into affect on January first. The law is designed to keep credit card companies from making too much money and it will also help those in debt get rid of it quicker.

    Recent college grad, James Walsh says he sometimes leaves a balance on his credit card. "I try not to but its not always possible, I just got our of college so I'm trying to work around everything."

    And with 7 million Americans only paying the minimum amount on their credit cards, Walsh is not alone. In fact, credit card companies made about 30-billion dollars in 2004... all from interest charges.

    "Credit cards want you to stay in debt as long as possible, that's the way that make their money. So as soon as you can get out from under their clutches, out from under the hammer the better off you're going to be,” says Financial expert Carl Williams.

    This year will be different, a new law now requires consumers to pay the interest and penalties on their bills plus at least one percent of the principal, something that Williams says will initially hurt some people who could be paying 50 bucks more a month.

    "So its going to be tight, if people are making minimum payments anyway, its going to make for tighter payments, especially with higher heating costs and Christmas just over there's going to be credit card bills from big department stores."

    But, in the long run, those in debt will get out quicker.

    Williams says, "Lets say you have you have $9,200 in debt and you're just making minimum payments its going to take you about 15 years to pay that off."

    But, pay an additional one percent... and you could get out of your debt in about 2.5 years and save $7,500 in interest.

    Walsh says when he can, he already pays more than the minimum amount. "I usually pay, I try to pay as much as I can each month. I don't even look at the minimum, I look at what's in my check book and see how much I can afford to pay off and that's what I do."

    The average consumer has about $9,200 in credit card debt, so the government is hoping the new law will help trim that... and prevent others from going into debt.
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  • ExtremeGamer
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    • Jul 2002
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    #2
    Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

    Moved this to Entertainment, since people use CC's for entertainment... (it's a reach, I know)

    This is why I don't have credit cards...

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    • RubenDouglas
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      • May 2003
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      Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

      how is that possible.. pay minimum and be in debt for 15 years vs. pay 1% MORE and be in debt for 2.5 years. They make it sound like its only a few dollars. There talking 50-100 more

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      • SPTO
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        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #4
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        I wish people without work could get a CC. There's so many things I want to buy!

        Of course i'd just buy something, pay all the credit then buy again. I wouldn't put myself in debt. I guess there aren't many like me.
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        • ExtremeGamer
          Extra Life 11/3/18
          • Jul 2002
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          Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

          Originally posted by RubenDouglas
          how is that possible.. pay minimum and be in debt for 15 years vs. pay 1% MORE and be in debt for 2.5 years. They make it sound like its only a few dollars. There talking 50-100 more
          That's not exactly it. What the government did is raise the minimum payment. If anything, credit card companies will lose money. Before you were paying 1-2% of your balance, now it'll be 3-4%. The interest stays the same.

          Example, if you have 10K on a credit card (hope you don't!) and were paying $200 a month, you'll now be paying around $400 a month. So where before you were paying 200 and 175 was going towards interest, you are now paying 400, with still 175 going towards interest.

          EDIT - I swore you had something else there that I quoted before..LOL

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          • forensicd
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            • Mar 2003
            • 1565

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            Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

            i learned a hard lesson in college: DONT USE CREDIT CARDS! Since my sophmore year (9-10 years ago, man im getting old!), i have never once had another credit card. While it only took me a year or so to pay it all off, i just realized there was no way i was going to do it again. People today live outside their means, and we are a society in constant debt. I understand that their are circumstances in which you have to go into debt, but alot of the people I know who are put themselves in that postition by buying too much, or buying the wrong items. Why buy a 25000 car when you could have got along fine with a 9000 one? Live within your means, and you will be fine.
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            • RoyalBoyle78
              Aka."Footballforever"
              • May 2003
              • 23918

              #7
              Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
              That's not exactly it. What the government did is raise the minimum payment. If anything, credit card companies will lose money. Before you were paying 1-2% of your balance, now it'll be 3-4%. The interest stays the same.

              Example, if you have 10K on a credit card (hope you don't!) and were paying $200 a month, you'll now be paying around $400 a month. So where before you were paying 200 and 175 was going towards interest, you are now paying 400, with still 175 going towards interest.

              EDIT - I swore you had something else there that I quoted before..LOL
              I just think that is not really fair, I mean what if someone does have $10,000 on a card and there minimum payment is $200, and they have been paying $275 and thats all they could aford, they were still paying over the minimum, now the goverment is going to make that person pay $400 dollars as the minimum, now to me that just not right, what if that person can't pay it. I mean this is could really hurt people then help them, I mean it could really hurt people.
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              • MagicBucsWsoxFan
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                • Mar 2003
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                #8
                Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

                This is along the lines of a credit card but not much about the actually point of the topic...

                IM gonna be looking to get an apartment soon and I have no credit history. I have a debit card, but clearly thats not credit. I got denied by citi bank, my next try is capitolone.
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                • ExtremeGamer
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  Originally posted by MagicBucsWsoxFan
                  This is along the lines of a credit card but not much about the actually point of the topic...

                  IM gonna be looking to get an apartment soon and I have no credit history. I have a debit card, but clearly thats not credit. I got denied by citi bank, my next try is capitolone.
                  You keep applying, and you'll bury your non-existant credit history. Get a credit card with secured debt, and pay it off. Or have someone co-pay or co-sign on the apartment for you.

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                  • ExtremeGamer
                    Extra Life 11/3/18
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                    Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

                    Originally posted by FootballForever
                    I just think that is not really fair, I mean what if someone does have $10,000 on a card and there minimum payment is $200, and they have been paying $275 and thats all they could aford, they were still paying over the minimum, now the goverment is going to make that person pay $400 dollars as the minimum, now to me that just not right, what if that person can't pay it. I mean this is could really hurt people then help them, I mean it could really hurt people.
                    I understand what you mean, but blame the millions who have filed bankruptcy. It got common place for people to build up thousands and thousands of dollars in debt, only to then file bankruptcy. The law is bad from the standpoint of people currently in debt, but once you get a handle on the new minimum, you then have a better handle on your finances. Like I've said many, many times, avoid credit cards. We have one card, it has a high limit, we carry no balance, paying off anything we put on it at month end. We usually put under $100 on it with gas or dinner one night just to keep a credit history. But we would only use it for emergencies otherwise. If I want a new TV and can't afford it, I'll wait till I can. Simple as that...

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                    • Skerik
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5215

                      #11
                      Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

                      Maybe people should try living within their means instead of racking up enormous debt. I love it when people say, "This is why I'll never own a credit card," or, "I learned my lesson, don't use credit cards!" Obviously people without the discipline or self control to use credit cards shouldn't be using them, but for people such as myself and many others who are able to live within their financial means while using credit cards for added convenience for things like online shopping and not having to tote a bunch of cash around with them at all times, credit cards are a great thing.

                      I think the problem is that many people hear the word "credit" and think, "Wow, I don't have to pay this thing off for years if I don't want to!" We pay our cards off at the end of every month and never leave a balance on them. If your finances are tight enough such that you have to leave a balance on your card, chances are high that you're living outside the means you can reasonably afford. But it's always kind of amusing to me when I hear that people are distrustful and have a low opinion of credit cards just because they prey on people who aren't disciplined enough to live within their means. Don't make yourself an easy target and you won't have any problems with credit cards....
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                      • RoyalBoyle78
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                        • May 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: NEW CREDIT CARD LAWS!!!

                        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                        I understand what you mean, but blame the millions who have filed bankruptcy. It got common place for people to build up thousands and thousands of dollars in debt, only to then file bankruptcy. The law is bad from the standpoint of people currently in debt, but once you get a handle on the new minimum, you then have a better handle on your finances. Like I've said many, many times, avoid credit cards. We have one card, it has a high limit, we carry no balance, paying off anything we put on it at month end. We usually put under $100 on it with gas or dinner one night just to keep a credit history. But we would only use it for emergencies otherwise. If I want a new TV and can't afford it, I'll wait till I can. Simple as that...
                        well I don't see why the bankruptcy thing would matter now, because if I'm not mistaken there was a law passed that one indivdual can't file for bankruptcy anymore anyway.
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                        • FISH
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          Another key is find a credit card that gives the best interest rate. My first card years back was something stupid like 28%. I used it for emergencies only.Over the years I got different cards through different companies and obtained a perfect credit rating. Recently I was contacted by another credit company that I had no interest in at the time. After he asked what it would take to be a customer of their company I said I needed a low interest rate.Turns out I did get a card from them with an interest rate of 6.5%, a lot easier to manage.

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                          • ExtremeGamer
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                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            well I don't see why the bankruptcy thing would matter now, because if I'm not mistaken there was a law passed that one indivdual can't file for bankruptcy anymore anyway.
                            You can still file. But the laws have changed. And now more than before, you'll file chapter 13, instead of 7. I am probably wrong on the numbers, but you won't be free and clear when you file, will still owe a portion back.

                            Credit cards are a great tool as Sherik said. I've used one extensively over my life and when I was younger, I did get into debt issues. I realized it and paid my way out of it and became smarter about my finances. 12 years later, I am much, much more stable and realize what I can and can't afford. We use our debit card for all online purchaes, unless we haven't touched the CC that month, then we'll use it. We like to use it still just to keep a credit history like I said earlier, and like Sherik, it never carries a balance so there is never any interest.

                            Basically, there are very few people living without a credit card.

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                            • ExtremeGamer
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                              Originally posted by FISH
                              Another key is find a credit card that gives the best interest rate. My first card years back was something stupid like 28%. I used it for emergencies only.Over the years I got different cards through different companies and obtained a perfect credit rating. Recently I was contacted by another credit company that I had no interest in at the time. After he asked what it would take to be a customer of their company I said I needed a low interest rate.Turns out I did get a card from them with an interest rate of 6.5%, a lot easier to manage.
                              I doubt your credit score is 800, but I know what you mean..LOL just messing.

                              Our card is an American Express where our interest rate is 2.9%, so even if we left a balance, it wouldn't cost us much of anything extra.

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