As far as the hardware itself, I am, and always will be, a PC guy because of the customization aspect and the lower price points for equipment.
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Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by mgoblue
As far as the hardware itself, I am, and always will be, a PC guy because of the customization aspect and the lower price points for equipment. -
Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by ObiWanJenkinsSuperior specs do not equal value. A Windows PC is still the best value for the money. You ignore the problem with all-in-one hardware. You've ignored the customization aspects of a PC. You've spoken nothing about value than to say the Mac processor is more powerful than the average PC processor. By that logic, all of us should own luxury cars because they offer more at a higher price.
Your use of the car analogy I say is a bit off- I think it goes something like this- I liken it to someone buying a mac instead of PC to someone who can spend $35k on a car buying a BMW 325 instead of a Toyota Corolla. Its a consumers choice to spend more money on something that is generally regarded as a superior product. Sure, the Corolla would suffice and can get you to point A to point B like any other car, but the person is buying it for the extras you get with the BMW that you don't with the Toyota."You can not ensure success, but you can deserve it." - John Quincy Adams
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Just for another perspective:
And what do you know, this guy uses the car analogy as well! The pen/writing instrument one is nice too, however. The guy is obviously biased, and puts down PCs a little to fervently, but beneath the zealotry are some good points, and the discussion in the comments is thought provoking, with points made by both "sides"(I hate when the discussion is characterized that way, but I digress...).
Comment number 6 on the blog brings up a nice counterpoint. However, I DO care about "look and feel", and am willing to pay extra for it. As far as I'm concerned, a computer is designed to accomplish tasks, but it IS a piece of furniture as well. I pay a little more for nice plates when paper ones could do, nice glassware when solo cups can hold the same amount of liquid, and nice clothes when a burlap sack could give me similar body coverage. I don't think it's "stupid" to pay for a nicer-looking computer, but functionality is still my primary concern.Last edited by Silverstring; 01-17-2006, 02:25 AM.I drive a 2005 Toyota Prius Gas/Electric Hybrid. My last tank was 53.6 miles/gallon. Gas prices fear me!
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Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by SilverstringJust for another perspective:
However, I DO care about "look and feel", and am willing to pay extra for it. As far as I'm concerned, a computer is designed to accomplish tasks, but it IS a piece of furniture as well. I pay a little more for nice plates when paper ones could do, nice glassware when solo cups can hold the same amount of liquid, and nice clothes when a burlap sack could give me similar body coverage. I don't think it's "stupid" to pay for a nicer-looking computer, but functionality is still my primary concern.
Heck there are some computers cases available that by first glance you couldn't tell they were computers as they look like home theater equipment. A friend of mind built a computer himself and he choose a case that looks like a small stereo reciever with knobs and yes it has a built in FM reciever to boot.
But no arguments from me as to paying a little extra for computers that look different cause I feel the same way. My point is that it's no longer a unique thing to Apple, but an all white shiny compter does look very slick at least to me.Comment
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Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by SilverstringJust for another perspective:
And what do you know, this guy uses the car analogy as well! The pen/writing instrument one is nice too, however. The guy is obviously biased, and puts down PCs a little to fervently, but beneath the zealotry are some good points, and the discussion in the comments is thought provoking, with points made by both "sides"(I hate when the discussion is characterized that way, but I digress...).
Comment number 6 on the blog brings up a nice counterpoint. However, I DO care about "look and feel", and am willing to pay extra for it. As far as I'm concerned, a computer is designed to accomplish tasks, but it IS a piece of furniture as well. I pay a little more for nice plates when paper ones could do, nice glassware when solo cups can hold the same amount of liquid, and nice clothes when a burlap sack could give me similar body coverage. I don't think it's "stupid" to pay for a nicer-looking computer, but functionality is still my primary concern."You can not ensure success, but you can deserve it." - John Quincy Adams
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Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Speaking as a hardcore gamer, ain't no way I'd ever buy a Mac.
I do like my Apple 30" cinema display though....Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
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ObiWanJenkins
Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by ESPNdeportesPersonally, I don't really care if my Mac costs a couple hundred more than what I could get an equivalent PC for. A computer lasts me 3-4 yrs, and I use it so much that the fewer headaches I get using a Mac make it worth the difference. Besides, if you're at a point financially where you seriously cannot afford to pay a little extra, you probably shouldn't be buying any sort of computer.
Your use of the car analogy I say is a bit off- I think it goes something like this- I liken it to someone buying a mac instead of PC to someone who can spend $35k on a car buying a BMW 325 instead of a Toyota Corolla. Its a consumers choice to spend more money on something that is generally regarded as a superior product. Sure, the Corolla would suffice and can get you to point A to point B like any other car, but the person is buying it for the extras you get with the BMW that you don't with the Toyota.
Your experience with your Mac may make it the best choice for you, but I have been using both PC's and Apples for the past 20+ years. For me, there is no value in a Mac over a PC, though Macs are incredible tools for certain applications.Comment
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Originally posted by ObiWanJenkinsYou've had headaches with PC's and not with Macs. I have had just as many problems with the Macs as the PC's I have used. I don't that makes either of us more factually right than the other.Comment
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ObiWanJenkins
Re: Apple Computers now with latest Intel Processors
Originally posted by SilverstringJust for another perspective:
Comment number 6 on the blog brings up a nice counterpoint. However, I DO care about "look and feel", and am willing to pay extra for it. As far as I'm concerned, a computer is designed to accomplish tasks, but it IS a piece of furniture as well. I pay a little more for nice plates when paper ones could do, nice glassware when solo cups can hold the same amount of liquid, and nice clothes when a burlap sack could give me similar body coverage. I don't think it's "stupid" to pay for a nicer-looking computer, but functionality is still my primary concern.
I am the opposite from you. I won't pay more for "nicer looking" plates when the cheaper ones function the same. I think your burlap sack is a little extreme, but I tend to buy non-name brands when it comes to clothes, because paying for a name has no value for me.Comment
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Originally posted by ObiWanJenkinsYour last statement makes no sense to me in this topic. I won't buy a Mac because I don't think it's worth the extra money, not because I can't afford it. When did finances come into it? It seems like you're trying to state your opinion as fact. You've had headaches with PC's and not with Macs. I have had just as many problems with the Macs as the PC's I have used. I don't that makes either of us more factually right than the other.
No, I think your analogy is a little off. A Mac is not a luxury car compared to the standard bottom of the line sedan of Windows. I have never heard an objective expert call a Mac a "generally superior product" when comparing it to a PC. Keep in mind that we are comparing hardware and all available OS's. Silverstring mentioned "internet, email, document creation, photo organizing and editing, and games." When comparing these five things, you cannot say factually that a Mac does all five better than a PC. In fact, Mac handles photo organizing and editing better than the PC OS's, but PC's handle game playing much better than Macs. That would make it a wash.
Your experience with your Mac may make it the best choice for you, but I have been using both PC's and Apples for the past 20+ years. For me, there is no value in a Mac over a PC, though Macs are incredible tools for certain applications.
But, I didn't read the entire thread so I guess my points"You can not ensure success, but you can deserve it." - John Quincy Adams
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