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  • FSU_Animal
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 692

    #1

    Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

    The best advice I can give to those of you that are pretty new with computers is: I highly suggest you read this post because it might scare you into taking better care of your computers.

    I'm in some serious need of help fixing my laptop.

    The other day I made a very big booboo. I kept receiving these popups on my computer while working in applications outside of the internet. I wasn't even connected to the internet at the time and I still kept receiving these damn popups.

    Well, I go and check my settings and stupid me realized I had forgotten to reset my settings back to only allow first-party cookies and prompt for third party.

    So I reset it, went back to work and still kept receiving these popups.

    So then I run Webroot Spysweeper and it finds 144 spywares on my computer. I cannot remove them though because my subscription ran out a long while back. So I download S&D, AdAware, SpyDoctor, NoAdware, and one other program. As you probably know, AdAware is free to a certain extent, S&D is completely free, SpyDoctor and NoAdware only allow free scans but not removal. The other program was another free one but I didn't end up using it.

    Results:
    (1st) NoAdware found 138 spyware traces including two Trojans called Download.Trojan (a nasty lil' bugger that downloads and installs spyware without your consent)

    (2nd) SpyDoctor found 143 spyware traces including two more Trojans the same as above

    (3rd) AdAware found 130+ spyware traces and removed all but 9 (CmdService, New.Net, Rotue).

    (4th) S&D found 140+ spyware traces and removed all but 9 (CmdService, New.Net, Rotue).

    Both AdAware and S&D said that they cannot be removed while in normal mode, to enter into SafeMode, run the programs again, have them remove it, and go back into Normal Mode and remove manually.

    So now I'm in SafeMode.

    (1st) AdAware finds the spyware traces but once again cannot remove them.

    (2nd) S&D finds the spyware same as AdAware but cannot remove them either.

    (3rd) I run SpyDoctor once more and this time it finds 238+ spyware traces. Most of them were cookies (448 total cookies)...which I distinctly remember deleting from my computer...even removing completely from my recycle bin. Because SpyDoctor is not free, I decide to tackle this manually. I keep SpyDoctor's results open and proceed to my registry and my Windows folder under my C:\ drive.

    I go about my business of deleting everything in the registry that SpyDoctor says is spyware. Well, I decide to take a break and head with my wife to the grocery store to do some grocery shopping. I get back home later on and notice my screen is black. So I get my computer out of standby mode only to find out that my computer will not take me back to the main screen. Instead it gets stuck on the screen where normally your login icons are located (Windows XP screen) only I never see the icons. I see the blue screen (not the Blue Screen of Death) but no icons except the Windows XP Home icon.

    I've tried rebooting several different times only to find out that my computer will still not advance past this screen. I am no longer able to access my computer.

    So my wife and I decide to see what we can do about recovering my files on my hard drive. We pop in the Windows XP operating disk (the one they give you when you purchase a pre-built machine) and try to do a repair. I remember when I first ran S&D, it asked me if I want to save a copy of how my system looked right then before I ran the program and I chose the "yes" option knowing that if I messed up, I could always go back and restore my computer back to the most recent working condition. Well, now that I cannot get into my computer, I cannot do a system restore.

    So we try to do the "Repair" option when we booted from the CD by pressing the "R" key at the appropriate time. Well, needless to say, my wife and I have never seen the "repair" take you to the command prompt service. The only other time I've ever done a repair, it was with my first computer I ever built. During that repair, the computer scanned itself for missing or corrupted files and registry items and it would ask you if you want to copy the files from the CD to the correct location on my hard drive. Well, not this time. We were being prompted using command prompt.

    Now, I'm not too shabby when it comes to maneuvering my way around on my computer using command prompt but I started receiving odd messages. I am the only user on this computer. I would be prompted to enter which Windows would I like to login to and I would respond with the only option I had (C:\Windows). It would then ask for my administrator password. Well, I've never set that on my computer so I would just hit enter and I'd be logged into C:\Windows.

    I would then change my directory to just the C:\ and do a dir "documents and settings" and I could see the directory "documents and settings". However, when I would try to change my directory to "documents and settings" I kept receiving a "Access Denied" reponse. How is it that my "documents and settings" folder is denying the administrator access into that directory? I could view every subfolder within the "documents and settings" directory but I could not access them to copy them to a disk. I have every bit of my school work, business work, documents, PSD files, images, etc. all on that hard drive yet I could not access them.

    I tried to access the programs directory but received the same error (I was just testing at that time to see if I could access it). I need nothing in programs directory but I need everything in "My Documents" subdirectory.

    So my question for all of you out there is this:
    What can I do to gain access to "documents and settings" as the administrator.

    Can I take my hard drive out of my laptop, hook it up to our PC and access the folders on that hard drive?

    All of this is my fault for not being careful with my computer. I failed to make sure my computer was secure, safe from spyware (I had also forgotten to turn on the integrated "IE Popup Blocker" provided with SP 2.0), and safe from Virus'. I am never on my computer long enough to run my Norton Anti-Virus so I am afraid that I royally screwed up my laptop for good until I do a complete reformat of my computer which would cause me to lose every bit of work I have ever done...which I have spent countless hours upon hours working on.
  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #2
    Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

    - The reason it's asking you for the administrator account password is that it's needed to gain access to all of those files. It's a safety net for repair mode. Otherwise, anyone could use the repair option and gain access to all of your documents (ie: if they stole your laptop). So you'll need to find the password for the administrator account on that laptop. There always is one.

    - You can hook the laptop hard drive up to your PC as a slaved drive, but you'll need a special connector. I used to do this at one of my past jobs. I'll try to find a link to this connector. They are only $5 or so...

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    • mjb2124
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 13649

      #3
      Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

      Ok, here's the laptop to IDE hard drive adapter I was talking about:



      This one is more like the one I used:

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      • FSU_Animal
        Pro
        • Feb 2003
        • 692

        #4
        Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

        Sweet! Thanks for the links.

        I did try to use a password. I tried one that I normally use and then I tried the one that is usually used if no password is set.

        "password" did not work. Ended up causing me to restart due to incorrect password attempt three times. I never went into my computer and set up a password. Is there usually a generic password or is there one assigned to every computer that would be in my user's guide or in the paperwork that came with the computer?

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        • mgoblue
          Go Wings!
          • Jul 2002
          • 25477

          #5
          Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

          instead of choosing "Repair" on the windows cd, try to install over the current OS, it'll say "Hey, there's all ready a version of windows, would you like to repair it?" and then it'll overwrite your OS files and you should be able to log on
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          • mjb2124
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13649

            #6
            Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

            Originally posted by mgoblue
            instead of choosing "Repair" on the windows cd, try to install over the current OS, it'll say "Hey, there's all ready a version of windows, would you like to repair it?" and then it'll overwrite your OS files and you should be able to log on
            That works, but if memory serves me correctly (as I haven't done this in a while), doesn't it mess up a lot of the programs that are already installed? In other words, if a program is using a version of a .dll that is overwritten, that program will no longer work.

            FSU - I'm not sure what to tell you regarding the password. There shouldn't be a generic login. mgoblue's method will work if all you want to do is get info off of your PC and then reinstall the OS.

            With all the spyware/adware/trojans you had, I'd probably reinstall after you get your data. That stuff never seems to ever completely go away unless you reinstall.

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            • mgoblue
              Go Wings!
              • Jul 2002
              • 25477

              #7
              Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

              Originally posted by joeboo
              That works, but if memory serves me correctly (as I haven't done this in a while), doesn't it mess up a lot of the programs that are already installed? In other words, if a program is using a version of a .dll that is overwritten, that program will no longer work.

              FSU - I'm not sure what to tell you regarding the password. There shouldn't be a generic login. mgoblue's method will work if all you want to do is get info off of your PC and then reinstall the OS.

              With all the spyware/adware/trojans you had, I'd probably reinstall after you get your data. That stuff never seems to ever completely go away unless you reinstall.
              yeah, it may jack up some programs, depending on what they use, but it'd give him the access to the data again. I agree with you, full reinstall will be the best bet.
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              • p_rushing
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 14514

                #8
                Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                the programs will work, but they will not be included in the program list, installed programs, etc

                I would get the data and then format the drive.

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                • FSU_Animal
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 692

                  #9
                  Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                  Alright, so what I'll do when I get a chance is try to reinstall my Windows XP Home. I remember doing that one time a very long time ago, myself. Maybe that is why I remember Windows asking if I want to repair instead. I don't care about the programs. I can always get those back since I have all of the software anyways. All I really want and need are all of my files I wrote (word docs, spreadsheets, databases, images, etc...).

                  I'll give that a shot and see if it works.

                  Thanks. I'll report back a little later to tell how it went.

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                  • jdros13
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1255

                    #10
                    Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                    I'd love to hear how this went, because I came in to work on Monday morning with pop-ups all over the place (it appears one of my assistants downloaded something they shouldn't have on Saturday afternoon or Sunday).

                    I have spent the last 3 days trying to get rid of it, using S&D and AdAware and just working around the popups. Still wanting to get back to normal, I tried Windows Defender today and it got 4 more files, but WD forced me to reboot, and now I am missing the following file: \windows\system32\config\system (I'm doing that from memory but it is close). Anyway, I can't get into the cpu and I'm really pissed right now. We have a network drive so if I can just get back in I can save everything I need to that and start over if necessary, but I can't even do that right now.

                    So, I hope this worked for you.
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                    • RubenDouglas
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • May 2003
                      • 11202

                      #11
                      Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                      try ewido anti spyware program.

                      also, use some dummy software that lets you erase a bad file that is in use, on reboot, and it creates a dummy file in its place that is virus free.

                      worked for me.


                      but thats to say you know the location of the bad virus. most of the programs that scans but doesnt clean shows the location.. follow that path and have those bad files removed.

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                      • Angel_Fan
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 980

                        #12
                        Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                        I would suggest posting your problem here http://aumha.net/

                        The folks there are very helpful. After I reported my problem, they managed to guide me through and eventually fix my computer; its as good as new now.

                        This spyware, trojan, virus stuff is really a pain to get rid of. Just have a little patience and listen to those people at the link I gave you, and you should be well off.
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                        • Brankles
                          Banned
                          • May 2003
                          • 5113

                          #13
                          Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                          This is what happens when you give someone from FSU a computer.

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                          • RustedWalleye
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 824

                            #14
                            Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!



                            This site has a password reset program that will allow you to override your password. I do caution care with the use of it.

                            This will allow you to reset the passwords of any of the accounts on your system.

                            I used this before for an old hard drive that had an xp version on it that I needed to get files off of, it does work, just watch the warnings.

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                            • NinersFan
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 57

                              #15
                              Re: Computer Gurus...UNITE! All for One, One for All!

                              Best thing to do is set aside an hour or two, reinstall XP i.e. over your current install, create a new partition and move your personal data there, the format C:/ and do a fresh windows install.

                              The advantage of having all your personal data on a separate partition is you can reinstall, upgrade or replace your OS without moving or risking your data.

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