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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #1186
    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

    Originally posted by Kashanova
    the difference is, We get dent from the very beginning, and he has a very big role unlike venom which was like half way thru he appears out of nowhere
    There is no difference. The introduction of Venom was great while what they did with him was absolutely TERRIBLE.

    It's almost like they went out of their way to ruin him.

    They could show Dent smoking a cigar or taking a drink with it spilling out his jaw over half his suit and be done with it. It would STILL destroy that horrible representation of venom. Ugh.
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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #1187
      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

      Originally posted by Flyboy
      Eh, it done correctly it wouldn't be too bad.
      Luckily, we don't have to worry about it. Nolan has already said Robin will never be in "his" Batman, Bale has now said he doesn't want Robin...so that's done with.


      As far as the villain for 3? Two-Face will be the main one, which means there will probably be a bit of a focus on the mob.

      Other options include:

      -As I've mentioned before in this thread, they could also introduce Edward Nigma, and I think Nolan and company would do justice to the darker side of the Riddler.

      -If they could work out a 4th movie, they could introduce Selina Kyle in the third one, build her and Bruce's relationship up, and set up a 4th one with Catwoman.

      -The Scarecrow could, and should, make a return barring anything that happens in TDK.

      -They could go with Holiday, but they already introduced and destroy Falcone in Batman Begins, so suddenly introducing another story-arc along those lines would be iffy and take some creative alterations.

      -Talia al Ghul.

      -Julian Day, aKa Calender Man. Seems like the kind of guy - realistic, dark - that Nolan could be interested in.

      -Mad Hatter.


      Those are about the only ones I can think of that they could work in.

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      • Bruins
        .
        • Mar 2004
        • 6433

        #1188
        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

        Originally posted by Flyboy
        Eh, it done correctly it wouldn't be too bad.
        Jeph Loeb agrees:

        “Take the time to tell the story properly,” Loeb said. “There is a story of Dick Grayson and how he becomes Robin that is extremely moving and very helpful. …[Grayson/Robin] doesn’t understand why it is that he needs to do this and Bruce doesn’t understand why he’s doing it either because he’s not a parent. He doesn’t know how to be a parent,” Loeb said. “And together, they make each other better people. So that for me would be the next step.”

        “I wouldn’t let him become Robin until the third act, if that. I think that’s the other problem when you tell that story is that there’s this rush to put him in a costume by the end of the first 20 minutes and in that case I think it’s a disaster…”


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        • Kashanova
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2003
          • 12695

          #1189
          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

          Originally posted by Pared
          There is no difference. The introduction of Venom was great while what they did with him was absolutely TERRIBLE.

          It's almost like they went out of their way to ruin him.

          They could show Dent smoking a cigar or taking a drink with it spilling out his jaw over half his suit and be done with it. It would STILL destroy that horrible representation of venom. Ugh.
          wasn't the director opposed of having venom in the flick anyways? That would be a good way to send one towards Sony imo

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          • Kashanova
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 12695

            #1190
            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

            Originally posted by Longhorn
            Luckily, we don't have to worry about it. Nolan has already said Robin will never be in "his" Batman, Bale has now said he doesn't want Robin...so that's done with.


            As far as the villain for 3? Two-Face will be the main one, which means there will probably be a bit of a focus on the mob.

            Other options include:

            -As I've mentioned before in this thread, they could also introduce Edward Nigma, and I think Nolan and company would do justice to the darker side of the Riddler.

            -If they could work out a 4th movie, they could introduce Selina Kyle in the third one, build her and Bruce's relationship up, and set up a 4th one with Catwoman.

            -The Scarecrow could, and should, make a return barring anything that happens in TDK.

            -They could go with Holiday, but they already introduced and destroy Falcone in Batman Begins, so suddenly introducing another story-arc along those lines would be iffy and take some creative alterations.

            -Talia al Ghul.

            -Julian Day, aKa Calender Man. Seems like the kind of guy - realistic, dark - that Nolan could be interested in.

            -Mad Hatter.


            Those are about the only ones I can think of that they could work in.
            I think the Riddler in Nolan's world would work especially since nolan has a thing for smart psychopaths

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            • Beantown
              #DoYourJob
              • Feb 2005
              • 31523

              #1191
              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

              Originally posted by Kashanova
              I think the Riddler in Nolan's world would work especially since nolan has a thing for smart psychopaths
              Not to mention that, since Nolan is a big fan of the graphic novels there is one particular story (I won't ruin it, but anyone that has read it will know what I'm talking about) that would be perfect for a base of the Riddler.

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #1192
                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                Personally, I would like to see Selina Kyle resurrect herself after that horrid Halle Berry BS. I'm hoping Scarecrow makes a third appearance. I agree on The Riddler, too.



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                • jfsolo
                  Live Action, please?
                  • May 2003
                  • 12965

                  #1193
                  Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  Personally, I would like to see Selina Kyle resurrect herself after that horrid Halle Berry BS. I'm hoping Scarecrow makes a third appearance. I agree on The Riddler, too.
                  I'd like to see the Batman: Year One Selina Kyle be the template for the character if they resurrect her in the new franchise. That incarnation seems to fit best in the Nolan/Bale universe IMO.
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                  • 3bitz
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1523

                    #1194
                    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                    Originally posted by jfsolo
                    I'd like to see the Batman: Year One Selina Kyle be the template for the character if they resurrect her in the new franchise. That incarnation seems to fit best in the Nolan/Bale universe IMO.
                    Angelina Jolie as Catwoman anyone?

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                    • Beantown
                      #DoYourJob
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 31523

                      #1195
                      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                      Selina Kyle would be my first choice, as well, but only if they have a fourth movie in the works so the Venom-syndrome doesn't happen with Batman.

                      What they could do, if there is a foruth:

                      -Focus on Two-Face and the mob scene.
                      -Selina Kyle, and Catwoman, started out robbing for and from the mob (I think it was, specifically the Maroni family), so they could have Bruce meet Selina, etc.

                      If they go four movies, my personal choice would be:

                      -Two Face
                      -The Riddler
                      -Scarecrow
                      -Selina Kyle.

                      That would be absolutely amazing, as a Batman fan.

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                      • Bruins
                        .
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 6433

                        #1196
                        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                        Just bought my ticket for the 3:00pm IMAX showing on opening day.

                        Going to the Cinemagic in Hooksett, NH if anyone was wondering.

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #1197
                          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                          All the marketing stuff for TDK has kind of taken me off-guard since there was practically nothing for Batman Begins.

                          As for the whole title thing, I don't see how anybody would not know - comic fan or not - that The Dark Knight is about Batman.



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                          • Beantown
                            #DoYourJob
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 31523

                            #1198
                            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                            Got my tickets to the noon showing in iMax on the 18th. Hopefully it'll be the first of many viewings that weekend.

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                            • USF11
                              C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4245

                              #1199
                              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                              Originally posted by Longhorn
                              Selina Kyle would be my first choice, as well, but only if they have a fourth movie in the works so the Venom-syndrome doesn't happen with Batman.

                              What they could do, if there is a foruth:

                              -Focus on Two-Face and the mob scene.
                              -Selina Kyle, and Catwoman, started out robbing for and from the mob (I think it was, specifically the Maroni family), so they could have Bruce meet Selina, etc.

                              If they go four movies, my personal choice would be:

                              -Two Face
                              -The Riddler
                              -Scarecrow
                              -Selina Kyle.

                              That would be absolutely amazing, as a Batman fan.
                              I would like the sword of Azreal sp? storyline played out over 2 movies, something fresh and new. Have batman get badly hurt in the 3rd one, something that hasnt been done in a superhero franchise.
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                              • AuburnAlumni
                                War Eagle
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11939

                                #1200
                                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion

                                En nyt klip fra den med spænding ventede "The Dark Knight" er nu blevet frigivet og kan ses her på Filmz ved at klikke på nyhedsoverskriften. Klippet viser klovnepsykopaten Jokeren, der ankommer til en fest, hvor han vist ikke er inviteret... I "The Dark Knight" må Batman denne gang stå til regnskab over for en ny fremtrædende og ustyrlig forbryderhjerne, som kaster Gotham City ud i anarki og tvinger den natsorte ridder endnu tættere på at krydse grænsen mellem helt og selvtægtsmand. Filmen rammer de danske biografer 23. juli.


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