***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

[Lintyfresh85]

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They really didn't answer much for a show called "The Answers", but it was nice to see this confirmed. There WAS a plane crash, and these people are real and alive, not in purgatory or ghosts. I want some sort of word from the producers about the numbers. Do they still mean something to the story, or was the idea abandoned? From the show last night, they spoke as if they know what the entire story is and how it will end. I hope that they knew this when they started, and that everything they are dropping in (even from the beginning) still applies to the overall story somehow.

About Bernard being an Other, I doubt it. He was on the plane, and I really don't think Ben knew a plane was going to crash. Desmond caused it by missing the button, which Ben knew nothing about. The only possible way I think he'd be expecting it would be if he has the same "power" Desmond does.

I thought I read somewhere that the Numbers meant nothing and were just a plot device for Season 2. I really doubt we'll ever see them again.

[Chief Illinimac]

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I wonder how they are going to explain all these people being connected prior to the crash and ending up the plane together if the act that brought them to the island was an act of Desmond missing pressing the button on time by accident?

Seems like they ended up on the island because of Desmond's accident, but everything points to them being "brought" there for a reason.

I thought they said the fact that they all had these connections were a medifore and that there wasn't a direct reason for it. Rather, it was just sort of this idea that "what if Locke and Sawyer didn't share the same father, would they have both ended up on the plane?" In a sense, the fact that Desmond was responsible for the plane crashing only adds to this, since him and Jack had met before, and Desmond's reason for meeting Jack (the race around the world) was what led him to be trapped on the island.

Perhaps there is a more "real" reason as to why they are all there, and if there is, I'm sure we will find out what it is.

[Money99]

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I thought they said the fact that they all had these connections were a medifore and that there wasn't a direct reason for it. Rather, it was just sort of this idea that "what if Locke and Sawyer didn't share the same father, would they have both ended up on the plane?" In a sense, the fact that Desmond was responsible for the plane crashing only adds to this, since him and Jack had met before, and Desmond's reason for meeting Jack (the race around the world) was what led him to be trapped on the island.

Perhaps there is a more "real" reason as to why they are all there, and if there is, I'm sure we will find out what it is.

What if one of the Others has the same power as Desmond and foresaw the button not being pushed and Oceanic 815 crashing on the island. Would Ben and the Others then go about making sure all the necessary characters were on that plane?

[Chief Illinimac]

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What if one of the Others has the same power as Desmond and foresaw the button not being pushed and Oceanic 815 crashing on the island. Would Ben and the Others then go about making sure all the necessary characters were on that plane?

I guess that's possible, but based on what we've seen so far, I don't think you can really say that's true. I think it's the "fate" or "destiny" or whatever you want to call it side of the show, and that's how they all got on the plane, and how they are all connected in some way. However, I think the on-island things are less fate (Dharma, the Others' experimenting, etc...) and more purposeful - although I would exclude some things such as the smoke, cause I still have no idea how that can be explained rationally.

[Pete1210]

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I guess that's possible, but based on what we've seen so far, I don't think you can really say that's true. I think it's the "fate" or "destiny" or whatever you want to call it side of the show, and that's how they all got on the plane, and how they are all connected in some way. However, I think the on-island things are less fate (Dharma, the Others' experimenting, etc...) and more purposeful - although I would exclude some things such as the smoke, cause I still have no idea how that can be explained rationally.

A theory I read on some of the Lost boards is that the smoke "monster" is the result of scientific experiments on the island by Dharma. The smoke can take different shapes and forms, explaining the apparitions seen by the Losties, like Kate's horse and Emmi.

[matthewk]

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I thought I read somewhere that the Numbers meant nothing and were just a plot device for Season 2. I really doubt we'll ever see them again.

If that's true, then it sucks. They made such a big deal out of those numbers for a while, that if they discard them it makes a lot of the episodes in season 2 a waste.

[Double Eights]

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If that's true, then it sucks. They made such a big deal out of those numbers for a while, that if they discard them it makes a lot of the episodes in season 2 a waste.

Yeah, that irritates me.

I mean they even went as far as having the numbers engraved on the radio station.

[rubisco43]

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If that's true, then it sucks. They made such a big deal out of those numbers for a while, that if they discard them it makes a lot of the episodes in season 2 a waste.

season 2 was generally a wasted season anyway

[ndeezlo]

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A theory I read on some of the Lost boards is that the smoke "monster" is the result of scientific experiments on the island by Dharma. The smoke can take different shapes and forms, explaining the apparitions seen by the Losties, like Kate's horse and Emmi.

also Claire has a baby

[fistofrage]

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If that's true, then it sucks. They made such a big deal out of those numbers for a while, that if they discard them it makes a lot of the episodes in season 2 a waste.

This is why I'm skeptical that the writers haven't changed story lines. The numbers were everywhere in the first season and a half. Lotto numbers, seat numbers on the plane, numbers on the hatch, in the computer. For the numbers to have no meaning now, is not only a waste of time, but rather insulting.

[p_rushing]

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This is why I'm skeptical that the writers haven't changed story lines. The numbers were everywhere in the first season and a half. Lotto numbers, seat numbers on the plane, numbers on the hatch, in the computer. For the numbers to have no meaning now, is not only a waste of time, but rather insulting.

They have a meaning, they are he factors that the Dharma group was trying to change. The numbers just don't have anything to do with the rest of the story though.

[Lintyfresh85]

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season 2 was generally a wasted season anyway

Yeah, pretty much. I don't even really count it as most everything from that season has either been done away with, or evolved so much that it's not even close to what they started with. The only things I even care about from Season 2 are Ben and Desmond.

[CMH]

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The producers have confirmed that the Numbers were more a nostalgia type of thing. A large easter egg to drop in here and there into the story to show how things can relate even when they don't. Much like how the characters have been around each other before, but were never aware of it. The only reason their relationships matter is because they are on an Island together.

I honestly don't see how Season Two was about the Numbers. It was about Desmond, discovering the hatch, faith vs. science, speaking to the Others, and Walt being taken. Those events triggered what we have in Season Three.

I'd bet that after Season Four people will feel that Season Three was a waste because it only setup the events of Season Four.

[Lester206]

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another reason season two felt like a waste was because they introduced us to a whole bunch of new characters from the tail section who no one cared too much about other than Mr Eko. And now theyre all dead except for Bernard, the flight attendant lady and those kids.

[Lintyfresh85]

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The producers have confirmed that the Numbers were more a nostalgia type of thing. A large easter egg to drop in here and there into the story to show how things can relate even when they don't. Much like how the characters have been around each other before, but were never aware of it. The only reason their relationships matter is because they are on an Island together.

I honestly don't see how Season Two was about the Numbers. It was about Desmond, discovering the hatch, faith vs. science, speaking to the Others, and Walt being taken. Those events triggered what we have in Season Three.

I'd bet that after Season Four people will feel that Season Three was a waste because it only setup the events of Season Four.

I don't know... I just thought the Season 2 episodes sucked and that's why I don't care for them. I've loved the second half Season 3 episodes so I think they'll hold up well.