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  • bigfnjoe96
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    • Feb 2004
    • 11410

    #2521
    Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

    You gotta be kidding me. How many excuses are you gonna give the public about WHY you chose BD

    Fears of a deteriorating U.S. economy and falling DVD industry sales helped drive Warner Bros.'s decision to back Sony's Blu-ray next generation DVD format exclusively, a top executive told Reuters on Monday.

    Hollywood's biggest seller of home movies tipped the balance of power on Friday in favor of Sony in a fight for the next generation of DVDs between the electronics giant and Toshiba Corp., developers of the HD DVD format.

    "We've typically been recession proof," Warner Bros. Entertainment Group President Kevin Tsujihara said in an interview at the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

    "But the thing that we saw in the fourth quarter ... was gas prices beginning to affect sales. And since we're considered an impulse purchase, it's beginning to impact us," he said.

    Tsujihara said the company needed to quickly erase consumer and retailer confusion over dueling DVD formats before economic conditions deteriorated.

    Toshiba vowed the format war was not over, but Warner's move was seen as a major setback, at least, in the race to develop a potentially multibillion-dollar market for high-definition discs.

    Warner executives said the consortium of companies backing Blu-ray, including five of the seven big Hollywood Studios, could spend more than $50 million in 2008 to convince consumers to upgrade, or more than the amount spent by the backers of both HD DVD and Blu-ray in the 2007 holiday season. Budgets have not been finalized, Warner Bros. said.

    The movie division of media conglomerate Time Warner Inc., out of respect for Toshiba, has kept a low profile at the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, the neon-lit gambling oasis in the Nevada desert not known for its subtly.

    Even Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer kept his remarks about Warner brief in public presentations.

    Warner's decision is seen cementing Blu-ray's victory in what could possibly be the last physical format for movies and TV shows as technology and Internet companies race to build online distribution channels, according to Citigroup analyst Tony Wible.

    A 2007 decline in DVD sales, which account for half of Hollywood's profits, and anticipated further declines in 2008 sped Warner's decision making process.

    Merrill Lynch said on Monday the United States had entered its first full blown recession in 16 years.

    The economy had little impact on the fourth quarter's higher sales of high definition televisions, which in turn helped boost sales of next generation DVD players, Warner Bros. Home Video President Ron Sanders told Reuters.

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    • thmst30
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 4153

      #2522
      Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

      HD-DVD is about 1 month from being completely dead. Maybe then we can close this thread.

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      • CaptainZombie
        Brains
        • Jul 2003
        • 37851

        #2523
        Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
        Oh hell's yes!!!!!!

        This better have everything from the 2 disc set released a few years ago.

        http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/predator.html
        You know how long I've been waiting for this movie to finally be released to BluRay. I wish they would have announced the second one too, that one was great with Danny Glover.

        Originally posted by Pimping219
        If anyone hears anything about Shawshank Redemption coming out in BR or HD-DVD please post it here, this is the one movie I have been waiting on for a year or so. Im going to assume nobody has heard anything already since its been rather quiet on this front.
        If anything bro, it will be on BD..........I can't wait for that one.

        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
        You gotta be kidding me. How many excuses are you gonna give the public about WHY you chose BD



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        Joe, they have given every excuse under the book. I think Warner feels bad to some degree for ditching Hd-DVD. As much as we all want to believe it was all for the money, I think they want one HDM format and they chose the side that had the most studios. I wish they would have went HD-DVD, but that probably would have been a total stalemate there.......but I bet that Disney would have gone neutral too or even HD-DVD exclusive since reports said they like and approved of the 51GB HD-DVD format.

        Originally posted by thmst30
        HD-DVD is about 1 month from being completely dead. Maybe then we can close this thread.
        About 3 weeks away from some reports. ------------
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        • thelwig14
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3145

          #2524
          Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

          Originally posted by candymanGT

          About 3 weeks away from some reports. ------------
          Easy to predict and hopefully they will just do us all a favor and pull the plug asap. Blu-ray will explode even more with a clear victor.

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          • mgoblue
            Go Wings!
            • Jul 2002
            • 25477

            #2525
            Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

            Originally posted by thelwig14
            Easy to predict and hopefully they will just do us all a favor and pull the plug asap. Blu-ray will explode even more with a clear victor.
            It does suck because HD-DVD was much better organized (none of the issues Blu-Ray is having with firmware etc)...that being said just end it now...don't let 'em off the mat.
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            • CaptainZombie
              Brains
              • Jul 2003
              • 37851

              #2526
              Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

              Originally posted by thelwig14
              Easy to predict and hopefully they will just do us all a favor and pull the plug asap. Blu-ray will explode even more with a clear victor.
              Originally posted by mgoblue
              It does suck because HD-DVD was much better organized (none of the issues Blu-Ray is having with firmware etc)...that being said just end it now...don't let 'em off the mat.
              They really need to end it now, it looks like Paramount and Universal don't have any other releases scheduled besides what has been announced so far. I was reading last year's CES, Universal announced plenty of titles for 2007. Granted this is a different situation, I bet we don't hear anything until the end of the week or next week on this mess.

              I would love for Toshiba to concede and announce that their going DUAL FORMAT with combo drives, this way not alienating any of their HD-DVD customers in the process. As much as Sony pisses me off that they have a format that isn't complete, all these studios need to just join the BDA and usher the HDM era. But another problem if their to succeed, they need to kill UPCONVERTING DVD Players........some people are happy enough with those that they won't switch over.
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              • GAMEC0CK2002
                Stayin Alive
                • Aug 2002
                • 10384

                #2527
                Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                The war with Standard DVDs is gonna be a uphill battle all the way. Regular DVDs don't look half bad upconverted and cost a fraction of the price and it doesn't require a startup fee of $300-400.

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                • CaptainZombie
                  Brains
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 37851

                  #2528
                  Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                  Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                  The war with Standard DVDs is gonna be a uphill battle all the way. Regular DVDs don't look half bad upconverted and cost a fraction of the price and it doesn't require a startup fee of $300-400.
                  I agree, they need to kill the UPCONVERTING DVD market or find a way to reduce it.
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                  • ExtremeGamer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #2529
                    Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                    Originally posted by candymanGT
                    I agree, they need to kill the UPCONVERTING DVD market or find a way to reduce it.
                    Not gonna happen.

                    Every DVD player now is practically upconverting. Since they still sell VCR's, I'd say the upconvert DVD player has a good 10-15 years on it.

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                    • CaptainZombie
                      Brains
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 37851

                      #2530
                      Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                      Take it for whats its worth:

                      Variety: Universal will no longer back HD DVD exclusively, confirmed.

                      The two remaining studios backing HD DVD could switch sides soon, ending the high-def format war instantly.

                      Daily Variety has confirmed that Universal's commitment to backing HD DVD exclusively has ended. And Paramount has an escape clause in its HD DVD contract allowing it to release pics on Blu-ray after Warner Bros.' decision to back that format exclusively.
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                      Neither studio is ready to throw in the towel immediately, however. Universal is committed to a series of promotions for the high-def format in coming months, and Par has said its current plans are to keep supporting HD DVD, which it backed exclusively in August.

                      Should Toshiba concede defeat on the format, the decision to drop HD DVD would be made for both studios. But Toshiba doesn't appear ready to do that. At the Consumer Electronics Show, the manufacturer reaffirmed its commitment to the format, noting strong sales during the fourth quarter and indicating it would continue marketing its hardware through 2008.

                      But retailers may force the HD DVD camp's hand: They're unlikely to keep devoting premium shelf space to a dying format, and at this point, the odds are not in HD DVD's favor. With Warners' defection, only Par and U remain in the HD DVD camp; Sony, Disney, Fox, Lionsgate remain ardent Blu-ray backers. Warner sister companies New Line and HBO are also shifting allegiance to Blu-ray.

                      Last summer, Blockbuster also threw its weight behind Blu-ray, though some HD DVD discs remain in stores.

                      And Warner will continue to release HD DVD discs for the next few months to honor its previous commitment to Toshiba, which extends through May 31. Paramount's HD DVD deal, which covers DreamWorks releases, was to run through this year.
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                      • luv_mist
                        Older
                        • May 2004
                        • 9596

                        #2531
                        Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                        Originally posted by candymanGT
                        They really need to end it now, it looks like Paramount and Universal don't have any other releases scheduled besides what has been announced so far. I was reading last year's CES, Universal announced plenty of titles for 2007. Granted this is a different situation, I bet we don't hear anything until the end of the week or next week on this mess.

                        I would love for Toshiba to concede and announce that their going DUAL FORMAT with combo drives, this way not alienating any of their HD-DVD customers in the process. As much as Sony pisses me off that they have a format that isn't complete, all these studios need to just join the BDA and usher the HDM era. But another problem if their to succeed, they need to kill UPCONVERTING DVD Players........some people are happy enough with those that they won't switch over.
                        How come the Blu Ray Format isn't "complete" honestly? First I've heard of this. Of course, it's the first time it's interested me. I was going to try and get a combo drive by I couldn't bring myself to spending that kind of money when it wasn't needed this early.

                        On another note, I'm definitely wondering how this will affect Sony's financials over the next year or so. They definitely took a huge gamble on this with the other companies and will definitely reap the rewards.

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                        • mgoblue
                          Go Wings!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 25477

                          #2532
                          Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                          Originally posted by luv_mist
                          How come the Blu Ray Format isn't "complete" honestly? First I've heard of this. Of course, it's the first time it's interested me. I was going to try and get a combo drive by I couldn't bring myself to spending that kind of money when it wasn't needed this early.

                          On another note, I'm definitely wondering how this will affect Sony's financials over the next year or so. They definitely took a huge gamble on this with the other companies and will definitely reap the rewards.
                          The Blu-Ray people rushed it out to compete with HD-DVD...Blu-Ray is releasing new firmware, but most 1.0 players aren't upgradeable. Therefore the people who bought the first Blu-Ray players can't take advantage of a lot of the features in the newest movies. Just pretty poor from that aspect (and others I'm sure I don't know about)...
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                          • Nomah5
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 845

                            #2533
                            Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                            Guys....what are some boards dedicated to HD-DVD? I frequently check out blu-ray.com and I imagine there must be HD fan boys all over a site. Thanks!!

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                            • RockyTop1
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 8267

                              #2534
                              Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                              Originally posted by Nomah5
                              Guys....what are some boards dedicated to HD-DVD? I frequently check out blu-ray.com and I imagine there must be HD fan boys all over a site. Thanks!!
                              highdefdigest.com, they have forums there with a bluray section, hd dvd section and then a smackdown board for both. I'm sure avsforum.com has something too, as well as dvdtalk.com. In terms of a site for HD DVD only, I'm not aware of one but like you said, I'm sure there are some out there. I would just google HD DVD forum if I were you.

                              I googled just because I was curious and I found this one forum.hd-dvd.com
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                              • Nomah5
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 845

                                #2535
                                Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

                                Much Appreciated Rocky.

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