NASA to announce "significant find" on Mars

[Skerik]

Re: NASA to announce "significant find" on Mars

Probably a couple million years ago.

I'm sure Richard C. Hoagland is jumping for joy since he's had the idea that Mars was once very much like earth until very recently. Of course some of his ideas such as extradimensional physics definitely fall into the "kooky" category.

Has Richard C. Hoagland offered any insight into what happened to Mars very recently to make it unlike Earth?

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Care to explain why its significant?

[SPTO]

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Has Richard C. Hoagland offered any insight into what happened to Mars very recently to make it unlike Earth?

Like I said some of his ideas fall into the "kooky" range but he sides with Tom Van Flandern's ideas that the asteroid belt was once a planet of which Mars was a life bearing moon of. Basically the assumption is that the planet exploded and blew off the Martian atmosphere.

I told you it was a bit kooky.

[SPTO]

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Care to explain why its significant?

To know that there was once water hence a high probability of life on a neighbouring planet relatively recent in the Solar System's history is VERY signficant. It means that life is not as precarious as we think it is. It could mean that we're not as special as we think we are and that there could be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

Looking at it practically, Mars having once had flowing water and possibly life would be the ideal candidate for terraforming and being colonized by humanity. We have screwed the pooch with Good 'Ol Planet Earth that colonization may be the one thing that saves humanity from dying out.

[Skerik]

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Looking at it practically, Mars having once had flowing water and possibly life would be the ideal candidate for terraforming and being colonized by humanity. We have screwed the pooch with Good 'Ol Planet Earth that colonization may be the one thing that saves humanity from dying out.

Stephen Hawking has been saying that for years, including very recently. Mostly with regard to a disaster such as an Armageddon-style asteroid collision or a nuclear war though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...hawking130.xml

[rocker78]

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Of course we're special. How many other planets can boast the things we have here?

i read somewhere about 3 years ago that there actually are alot of planets like earth in the universe but something about there nearly impossible to see on a telescope since they dont reflect much light.

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:y4:

Even if that were true, noone would ever live long enough to make it there. Again, what's the significance?

[bkfount]

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:y4:

Even if that were true, noone would ever live long enough to make it there. Again, what's the significance?

I'm sure some people thought the same thing about sailing out on the horizon. you and I are not scientists, but who knows. This could lead to something that generations down the road could benefit from.

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To know that there was once water hence a high probability of life on a neighbouring planet relatively recent in the Solar System's history is VERY signficant. It means that life is not as precarious as we think it is. It could mean that we're not as special as we think we are and that there could be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

Looking at it practically, Mars having once had flowing water and possibly life would be the ideal candidate for terraforming and being colonized by humanity. We have screwed the pooch with Good 'Ol Planet Earth that colonization may be the one thing that saves humanity from dying out.

So people are wildly running away with longshot theories, I get it.

We are definitley something significant. In the name of some unproven thoughts and ideas you may want to ignore the truth.

Good ole planet earth has every resource we need and it was placed there for us. It has its purpose. Mars is dried up for a reason, and you don't find anything there because nothing is there. No purpose, again.

You can even find out that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. You can't however find that nothing else outside of this planet has.

[SPTO]

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:y4:

Even if that were true, noone would ever live long enough to make it there. Again, what's the significance?

Actually there are some quite cheap (in the overall sense) designs for spaceships that can get to Mars within 4 months. That's not out of the stretch of the imagination since we've seen astronauts and cosmonauts spending a full year on the ISS.

EDIT replying to KDRE's last post:

How is it "longshot theories"?

Let's be practical here. If there was once water then there should be life somewhere. In fact some mainstream scientests believe that if you dig deep enough you'll find microbial life living within Mars' soil.

You're being awfully closeminded. I think I know why but I won't post it as it would take this thread way off. It's something that has been tumbling in the back of my head actually. (not specifically about you tho just in general) Anyways, the next logical step for mankind is step off this mortal coil and advance through space. It is the one area within Man's perview that we know so little about.

Oh and if you think we have all the resources on Earth and all....hm well I guess you haven't heard but 90% of marine life will die by 2040 thanks to pollution and the ice caps melting away.

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I'm sure some people thought the same thing about sailing out on the horizon. you and I are not scientists, but who knows. This could lead to something that generations down the road could benefit from.

Down the road we'll live long enough to travel outside of the galaxy and through others? Now if you tell me we might be able to develop a Star Trek cruiser then we're going into Sci Fi territory.

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Actually there are some quite cheap (in the overall sense) designs for spaceships that can get to Mars within 4 months. That's not out of the stretch of the imagination since we've seen astronauts and cosmonauts spending a full year on the ISS.

No, not Mars, he said the universe, meaning outside of the milky way.

Im sure if they really wanted to, they could probably reach Mars, but thats an entire different discussion.

[Jimplication]

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Good ole planet earth has every resource we need and it was placed there for us. It has its purpose. Mars is dried up for a reason, and you don't find anything there because nothing is there. No purpose, again.

Planets have life cycles. Earth will likely change dramatically millons of years from now as well.

To me, that is the point of this discovery. Mars had water once. Since, it has changed, but the existence of water is an indication of a changed planet in a time many years ago.

There is scientific data that shows planets, stars, and cosmic bodies have life cycles. It's all over my head, but even the portion that I was able to understand made sense and seemed perfectly logical to me.

[rocker78]

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:y4:

Even if that were true, noone would ever live long enough to make it there. Again, what's the significance?

no i dont think we will. im just saying that i find it hard to beleive that in the ENITIRE universe we are the only ones here.

[Skerik]

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Keep in mind that the colonization of planets and exploration of the solar system and beyond are not the only benefits we as Americans reap from the space program. Here's a list of more everyday benefits that you might be able to comprehend better than, say, the thrill of a manned space mission to an untraversed and possibly hospitable planet in our solar system.

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/benefits_of_space_program.html