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  • Skerik
    Living in this tube
    • Mar 2004
    • 5215

    #16
    Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

    Originally posted by rockchisler
    Watch the Video before u make uneducated remarks
    Regardless of what the video contains, the fact is that he doesn't want his image associated with Kanye West. And I'm sure I could provide a litany of Kanye quotes and actions that would reveal himself as a non-role model for children. The content of the video is irrelevant.
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    • aholbert32
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      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #17
      Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

      Originally posted by Skerik
      Regardless of what the video contains, the fact is that he doesn't want his image associated with Kanye West. And I'm sure I could provide a litany of Kanye quotes and actions that would reveal himself as a non-role model for children. The content of the video is irrelevant.

      The content of the video is very relevant. Its what he is basing his suit on. I dont agree with rockchisler that he is a racist though. I think he has been out of the spotlight and wants a check. The sad thing is he wont get one or if they settle it will be really small.

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      • Lintyfresh85
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        • Jul 2002
        • 17492

        #18
        Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

        Originally posted by rockchisler
        Watch the Video before u make uneducated remarks
        at least use proper grammar when you are insulting someone man...
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        • TJdaSportsGuy
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          • Dec 2002
          • 11146

          #19
          Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

          Originally posted by Superstar
          at least use proper grammar when you are insulting someone man...
          I was thinking the same thing!

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          • rockchisler
            All Star
            • Oct 2002
            • 8290

            #20
            Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

            Originally posted by Skerik
            Regardless of what the video contains, the fact is that he doesn't want his image associated with Kanye West. And I'm sure I could provide a litany of Kanye quotes and actions that would reveal himself as a non-role model for children. The content of the video is irrelevant.
            Well its to bad because Parodies have been around forever so for him to say I dont want to be associated with him..hey thats part of having a public lifestyle..Also Kanye has never said he was a role model for kids. And the Content of the Video Is Why This Thread Was Started
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            • rockchisler
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              • Oct 2002
              • 8290

              #21
              Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

              Originally posted by Superstar
              at least use proper grammar when you are insulting someone man...
              Haha you are right I was hot when I wrote that. I will Concentrate more when I type.
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              • Skerik
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                • Mar 2004
                • 5215

                #22
                Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                The content of the video is very relevant. Its what he is basing his suit on. I dont agree with rockchisler that he is a racist though. I think he has been out of the spotlight and wants a check. The sad thing is he wont get one or if they settle it will be really small.
                It's relevant from a legal standpoint, but I was speaking more in terms of why he doesn't want Kanye West using his image or likeness. It would be like if a convicted killer wrote a children's book from jail and it became popular. I wouldn't promote or want anything to do with it - not for its potential content, but because it was written by a killer.

                An extreme example, I know, but it illustrates the point. Legally, he might not have a leg to stand on here. But I can understand where's coming from, that's all.
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                • Heelfan71
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 19940

                  #23
                  Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                  I'm going to sue Kanye for making crappy music.
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                  • ExtremeGamer
                    Extra Life 11/3/18
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #24
                    Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                    Originally posted by rockchisler
                    If this gets anywhere near settled then Weird Al Yankovic is in some serrrrrrrrious trouble
                    Weird Al would be fine, he gets permission do all of his stuff before he even does it. The Chamillionaire song he did, is even on Chamillionaire's own myspace page because he liked the version so much.

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                    • rockchisler
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 8290

                      #25
                      Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      The content of the video is very relevant. Its what he is basing his suit on. I dont agree with rockchisler that he is a racist though. I think he has been out of the spotlight and wants a check. The sad thing is he wont get one or if they settle it will be really small.
                      I was saying he had a problem with the Kiss, I didnt say Evel Knievel is a racist.

                      "According to the St. Petersburg Times, the suit was filed in U.S. District Court. In the suit, Knievel accuses West of illegally using his image and tainting it with vulgar, sexual and racially charged content."

                      But after reading this statement it does make me wonder.
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                      • rockchisler
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #26
                        Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                        Weird Al would be fine, he gets permission do all of his stuff before he even does it. The Chamillionaire song he did, is even on Chamillionaire's own myspace page because he liked the version so much.
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                        • supremeslang
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 977

                          #27
                          Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                          Kanye is one of the least thugged out, nerdy rappers out there and he still can't catch a break.
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                          • Graphik
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 10582

                            #28
                            Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                            Originally posted by Skerik
                            It's relevant from a legal standpoint, but I was speaking more in terms of why he doesn't want Kanye West using his image or likeness. It would be like if a convicted killer wrote a children's book from jail and it became popular. I wouldn't promote or want anything to do with it - not for its potential content, but because it was written by a killer.

                            An extreme example, I know, but it illustrates the point. Legally, he might not have a leg to stand on here. But I can understand where's coming from, that's all.

                            Can we just agree that Knievel is just looking for a check. Kanye of all rappers out there is the least likely to be associated with violence and the bling era. If it was someone else in the rap game, you'd have a point.
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                            • ExtremeGamer
                              Extra Life 11/3/18
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 35299

                              #29
                              Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                              Originally posted by rockchisler
                              Remember the Coolio fallout with with the gangstas paradise parady, I cant tell you what happened after but Coolio was up in arms at that years Grammy, but thats neither here nor there.
                              Yeah, but he got permission, then Coolio was mad later on when the song became bigger than he expected, but I know what you mean.

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                              • NovaStar
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 3561

                                #30
                                Re: Evel Knievel sues Kanye West

                                Well legally speaking there is a doctrine in copyright law called the "fair use doctrine" (I think that is what it is called) under that theory a parody is automatically permissable, you don't need permission if you can in fact prove it was a parody. The leading case in this was the Luther Campbell suit when he used Pretty Woman, by Roy Orbison ( I still don't know what that judge was smoking to determine that the use was a Parody). I haven't seen this video, but I don't know if fair use extends to likeness and rights of publicity, based on what I have read, it looks like EK may get a settlement out of this.

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