Why Hip Hop is dead

[Dice]

For those interested in the demise of hip hop as a true art form here are some interesting documentaries to look at.

This first one is called "Hip-Hop - Beyond Beats and Rhymes" The video is toward the bottom of the page:

http://mirroronamerica.blogspot.com/2007/03/hip-hop-beyond-beats-and-rhymes.html

This second video is on a My Space page and it's called "Confessions of a B.E.T. Producer":

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2014336368

[ODogg]

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For those interested in the demise of hip hop as a true art form here are some interesting documentaries to look at.

This first one is called "Hip-Hop - Beyond Beats and Rhymes" The video is toward the bottom of the page:

http://mirroronamerica.blogspot.com/2007/03/hip-hop-beyond-beats-and-rhymes.html

This second video is on a My Space page and it's called "Confessions of a B.E.T. Producer":
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oID=2014336368

No mystery...cuz biggie and 2pac are dead..

[PlayaHataSupreme]

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Props for that Mirror on America post. That was a good read.

[MizzouBravesFan]

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No mystery...cuz biggie and 2pac are dead..

Maybe but I put the blame on the "bling culture" and everything it entails and brought to hip hop...including many of the horrible rappers we hear nowadays.

That more than anything is the culprit IMO...it went from hip hop being a cultural, political, and social statement to bragging and talking about the most dumbest and material things.

[blazersin2k3]

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sadly its because of the south, because i like southern artists like scarface, outkast, k-rino, little brother, dead prez, cunninlyguists, ti, chamillionaire, luda, etc. but all they do is push that crime mob, rich boy, young jeezy, rick ross, d4l, ying yang twinz, mike jones, paul wall, etc. etc. and it needs to be more balanced. plus sadly lyricism has no value in todays mainstream hiphop listener.

[PlayaHataSupreme]

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sadly its because of the south, because i like southern artists like scarface, outkast, k-rino, little brother, dead prez, cunninlyguists, ti, chamillionaire, luda, etc. but all they do is push that crime mob, rich boy, young jeezy, rick ross, d4l, ying yang twinz, mike jones, paul wall, etc. etc. and it needs to be more balanced. plus sadly lyricism has no value in todays mainstream hiphop listener.

The South is what the people wanted to hear......... if the people didn't want to hear it, no way would it have gotten played.......

Not saying that you are doing this, because I don't think you are....... but a person should try not to make it a South vs. East or Midwest or anything........ because I can tell that person that's not saying much about the other regions during the time the South "took over."

I think it's the attention span of the mid-to-latter "Y" generation......... listening to Little Brother and dpz take just a little bit more attention than Rich Boy (OT: for what it's made to be, Rich Boy's CD is pretty good). Most of these young kids don't have time for all that music with "depth" and "positive subject matter"........

The teen generation determine what's hot.......... this typically has always been true. Many people in the Generation X era were teens when the "good hip hop" was being released.........thus the genre of rap rose significantly during the late 80s to the point that it got its own magazine and sections in music stores.........

I was a teen during the era when No Limit Records was blowing up, those are often the days I reminisce of (though now, I don't exactly find myself digging to listen to artists like the Ghetto Commission) .......... I did listen to ATCQ and Geto Boys a little bit in the early 90s, but by the time 98 came ATCQ was not even that relevant anymore............ most of their fans were in their 20s and 30s.........

DMX was even hot back then, but in 2007, you got kids born in 1990, they weren't listening to rap for real for real when he was hot............

I really think the teen generation drive what's hot and they just s*** on the pioneers of hip hop because they can't relate to it. Often times, they don't know what they're doing, they don't know any better when they are doing this. Honestly, I can't expect anyone born in 1990 to get down with Grandmaster Flash......... though the ones that do do get brownie points.

Even I find it tough listening to 80s rap for an extended period of time, but every time I do, I seem to learn where many of today's beats come from. I just realized when I was 21 (sad, given that I'm just 24 now) that Master P's "Ghetto Dope" just ripped from Eric B. and Rakim's song. I do find that rewarding to find out exactly who today's songs come from...........

[ehh]

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I don't think it has anything to do with Pac and Biggie's death.

Once Mo' Money, More Problems blew up I knew hip-hop was heading down the ****ter. That was coming out on LAD whether BIG died or not.

[The_Don]

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Hip Hop Is NOT Dead.

Throughout the history of Hip Hop there have been good albums/artists and bad albums/artists every year. Instead of focusing on what is bad why not focus on the good.

I mean just last year their were tons of great rap albums/mix-tapes:
*Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
*Ghostface Killah - Fishscales
T.I. - King
Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
J Dilla - Donuts
DJ Drama & Lil Wayne - Dedication 2

A very good year if you ask me. In fact I would put those first two rap albums up against anything released in the history of rap; I think those two albums are among the best albums, rap or otherwise, I've ever heard.

The only problem comes when people think the Top 50 is what defines Hip Hop music which it does not. Dig a little deeper and you'll find a lot of good music.

[ehh]

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As for the actual video, I think Sut Jhalley summed it up in his interview in the flim. This is a problem with the media and entertainment industry as a whole, not just hip-hop.

I saw a few films with him in college, he's one smart dude.

[Blzer]

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I don't know too much about Hip Hop before the new millennium, but since actually knowing anything about it, I've hated it (as well as rap). Both have always been dead to me, but I'm sure it was actually something back then. Maybe still not my taste of genre, but that's the way the cookie crumbles I guess.

[AI_Franchise]

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all I have to say is BALLLLLINNNN!
I won't lie, I like hearing sick beats more than nice lyrics...but to hear someone rip the beat with nice verses is what hip-hop is all about. Not many can do, and especially those from the South. There are exceptions like Scarface, but I'm all for Throw Some D's and Everyday I'm Hustlin' beats...

50 Cent changed the entire complexion of the rap game IMO. He broke the barriers down for some of today's hip-hop artists with no lyrical talents to blow-up..coincidentally Kanye West is one of them and possible the biggest. He's still a talented producer, but he shouldn't rap. Also, Jadakiss is rumored to hit up Cash Money records. Will he finally peak in popularity thanks to Lil Wayne? He's hot out here, but imagine the mixtapes.

[mike01]

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Guy in the video is a little to full of himself.

Apparently he thinks HE is repsonsible for making the LOX, Eve, DMX hot....LMFAO

[Brandwin]

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No mystery...cuz biggie and 2pac are dead..

Umm not at all...

Plus, hip hop isn't dad. Just seems like the trendy thing for people to run with.

[Cebby]

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50 Cent changed the entire complexion of the rap game IMO. He broke the barriers down for some of today's hip-hop artists with no lyrical talents to blow-up

Say what? Did you miss the era of cash money and No Limit?

Mainstream rap has always been about hot beats+catchy hook. Always.

Rap is no less dead than it was years ago. It's just kind of like the NBA. The only people it sucks for are those obsessed with Biggie, Pac, Nas, and such.

[trobinson97]

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hip hop isn't dad. Just seems like the trendy thing for people to run with.

100% in agreement. I was just waiting for someone to lame the south, it happens all the time.