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  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #16
    Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

    Originally posted by Scottd
    Well Gags keeps breaking down and he is pretty big, Jonhson is still pitching in his mid 40's, that is pretty wild. So who knows. He is skinny though. lol
    Ehhh.... That doesn't make it automatic though. It's possible any number of guys are on something, but I don't see it with RJ. Heck, Nolan Ryan and Satchel Paige are just 2 examples of guys who pitched into their mid 40's and I don't think either of them were on anything. Honestly, by that criteria we could cite just about every player in the game. I was looking for substantial articles that link RJ and Gagne. Pared cited one earlier about Gagne.

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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #17
      Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

      I just assume that everyone is on the Juice. Much easier that way.
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      • JRod
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 3266

        #18
        Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

        Originally posted by camulos
        I just assume that everyone is on the Juice. Much easier that way.
        Yep, if you played baseball in the 90s and early 2000s you were on the juice. Seriously more players were on the juice than off the stuff. That's way baseball doesn't want to look into this. It would be shocking.

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        • kweiss
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 1886

          #19
          Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

          For your MMA list... Josh Barnett failed his steroid test in 2002.

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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #20
            Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

            Originally posted by mjb2124
            Ehhh.... That doesn't make it automatic though. It's possible any number of guys are on something, but I don't see it with RJ. Heck, Nolan Ryan and Satchel Paige are just 2 examples of guys who pitched into their mid 40's and I don't think either of them were on anything. Honestly, by that criteria we could cite just about every player in the game. I was looking for substantial articles that link RJ and Gagne. Pared cited one earlier about Gagne.

            I don't know, I guess I feel like a lot of guys were on this crap. And Nolan was a pretty strong guy even in his forty and I will say one thing I am sure he was taking more then just aspirin.

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            • mjb2124
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13649

              #21
              Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

              Originally posted by Scottd
              I don't know, I guess I feel like a lot of guys were on this crap. And Nolan was a pretty strong guy even in his forty and I will say one thing I am sure he was taking more then just aspirin.
              I guess my point is that not everyone in their 40's who is strong or in good shape is on steroids. That seems to be the trendy thought recently. It is certainly possible Nolan Ryan and a few other guys are those types that just take very good care of their bodies and are genetic freaks.

              I wouldn't be surprised if many guys are on this stuff. In fact, I think many are. However, there are a few that I do think did it naturally. Ryan is one of those guys. Unlike most steroid users, he seems to be doing pretty well at age 60. In fact, he threw out the ceremonial first pitch for a game this past year and without warming up, hit 85 MPH on the radar gun.

              Ryan is just a genetic freak IMO.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #22
                Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                Don't forget the NFL's David Boston. A poster child, if you ask me, of steroid use and how it can ruin a career.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #23
                  Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                  Originally posted by mjb2124
                  I guess my point is that not everyone in their 40's who is strong or in good shape is on steroids. That seems to be the trendy thought recently. It is certainly possible Nolan Ryan and a few other guys are those types that just take very good care of their bodies and are genetic freaks.

                  I wouldn't be surprised if many guys are on this stuff. In fact, I think many are. However, there are a few that I do think did it naturally. Ryan is one of those guys. Unlike most steroid users, he seems to be doing pretty well at age 60. In fact, he threw out the ceremonial first pitch for a game this past year and without warming up, hit 85 MPH on the radar gun.

                  Ryan is just a genetic freak IMO.


                  He is still on the juice. Any ways I know there a lot of players in the NFL that had to have taken it some time. Do you really get that strong naturally?

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                  • mjb2124
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13649

                    #24
                    Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    He is still on the juice.
                    Heh... I don't think so.

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                    • Heelfan71
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 19940

                      #25
                      Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                      this guy

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #26
                        Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                        Originally posted by Heelfan71
                        this guy

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                        Classic, I remember watching that live. I kept thinking his arms looked weird. lol

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                        • Heelfan71
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19940

                          #27
                          Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                          Originally posted by Scottd
                          Classic, I remember watching that live. I kept thinking his arms looked weird. lol
                          yeah, I forgot what year that was, but I saw it live too.
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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #28
                            Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                            Originally posted by Heelfan71
                            yeah, I forgot what year that was, but I saw it live too.
                            Had to be late 80's or something. I was in shock. I think it came out the same time Ben got busted and stripped of his medal.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #29
                              Re: Sports Doping (Steroids)/ Name Names

                              Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                              Don't forget the NFL's David Boston. A poster child, if you ask me, of steroid use and how it can ruin a career.
                              Boston, Pittman and Thomas Jones. I think they played on the Cardinals the same years too.

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