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  • Blzer
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    • Mar 2004
    • 42517

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    Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests




    (Oct. 17) - Security screeners at two of the nation's busiest airports failed to find fake bombs hidden on undercover agents posing as passengers in more than 60% of tests last year, according to a classified report obtained by USA TODAY.
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    Screeners at Los Angeles International Airport missed about 75% of simulated explosives and bomb parts that Transportation Security Administration testers hid under their clothes or in carry-on bags at checkpoints, the TSA report shows.

    At Chicago O'Hare International Airport, screeners missed about 60% of hidden bomb materials that were packed in everyday carry-ons - including toiletry kits, briefcases and CD players. San Francisco International Airport screeners, who work for a private company instead of the TSA, missed about 20% of the bombs, the report shows. The TSA ran about 70 tests at Los Angeles, 75 at Chicago and 145 at San Francisco.

    The report looks only at those three airports, using them as case studies to understand how well the rest of the U.S. screening system is working to stop terrorists from carrying bombs through checkpoints.

    The failure rates at Los Angeles and Chicago stunned security experts.

    "That's a huge cause for concern," said Clark Kent Ervin, the Homeland Security Department's former inspector general. Screeners' inability to find bombs could encourage terrorists to try to bring them on airplanes, Ervin said, and points to the need for more screener training and more powerful checkpoint scanning machines.

    In the past year, the TSA has adopted a more aggressive approach in its attempt to keep screeners attentive - the agency runs covert tests every day at every U.S. airport, TSA spokeswoman Ellen Howe said. Screeners who miss detonators, timers, batteries and blocks that resemble plastic explosives get remedial training.

    The failure rates at Los Angeles and Chicago are "somewhat misleading" because they don't reflect screeners' improved ability to find bombs, Howe said.

    TSA chief Kip Hawley, responding to previous reports about screeners missing hidden weapons, told a House hearing Tuesday that high failure rates stem from increasingly difficult covert tests that require screeners to find bomb parts the size of a pen cap. "We moved from testing of completely assembled bombs -- to the small component parts," he said.

    Terrorists bringing a homemade bomb on an airplane, or bringing on bomb parts and assembling them in the cabin, is the top threat against aviation. "Their focus is on using items easily available off grocery and hardware store shelves," Hawley said.

    A report on covert tests in 2002 found screeners failed to find fake bombs, dynamite and guns 24% of the time. The TSA ran those tests shortly after it took over checkpoint screening from security companies.

    Tests earlier in 2002 showed screeners missing 60% of fake bombs. In the late 1990s, tests showed that screeners missed about 40% of fake bombs, according to a separate report by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.

    The recent TSA report says San Francisco screeners face constant covert tests and are "more suspicious."
    Crunching the numbers, we get:


    Airport: Los Angeles International
    Fake Bombs Missed: 75 percent
    Tests Run: 70

    Airport: Chicago O'Hare International
    Fake Bombs Missed: 60 percent
    Tests Run: 75

    Airport: San Francisco International
    Fake Bombs Missed: 20 percent
    Tests Run: 145




    That sorta scares me.
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  • elicoleman
    Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
    • Sep 2002
    • 34655

    #2
    Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

    If they fail this bad, we might as well not have security. Atleast that way we can get through to our plane a whole lot faster.
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    • Altimus
      Chelsea, Assemble!
      • Nov 2004
      • 27283

      #3
      Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

      Wow O'Hare, wow. Why even release those stats to the public?

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      • jfsolo
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        • May 2003
        • 12965

        #4
        Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

        The reality is that if someone wants to carry out a terrorist threat, its still relatively easy to make it happen. All you have to do is have to do is have the money and the patience. Our way of life/laws/culture will always leave us very vulnerable to these kinds of things.
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        • dkgojackets
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 13816

          #5
          Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

          If someone is willing to die to execute a terrorist attack, there is nothing you can do to stop them.

          What happens when they start detonating bombs inside the airport? Are we going to screen everyone before they even enter? Hell, if someone really wanted to they could take the bomb outside on the paved area where all the planes are and attach it.

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          • SidVish
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            • Apr 2003
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            #6
            Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

            Originally posted by Altimus Prime
            Wow O'Hare, wow. Why even release those stats to the public?
            My thoughts exactly! You would think they could just keep that under wraps and just work to fix the problem. Why the need to broadcast it to the world?
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            • TheMatrix31
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              • Jul 2002
              • 52908

              #7
              Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

              Not surprising that LAX is on that list.

              But people act like terrorism begins and ends with planes, when these bastards could carry things out in so many different ways.

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              • oakfan162
                Get Ducked Up!
                • Mar 2006
                • 4724

                #8
                Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                Just saw someone from TSA or something on CNN defending these findings. To paraphrase, they said that these tests are designed for the bombs not to be caught.

                The defense they put up was ridiculous, this is really demoralizing, IMO.
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                • jmood88
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #9
                  Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                  They can't spend too much time on the bombs because of all the shampoo bottles that they need to take away, those are the real terrorist objects.
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                  • dkgojackets
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                    • Mar 2005
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                    #10
                    Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                    Originally posted by jmood88
                    They can't spend too much time on the bombs because of all the shampoo bottles that they need to take away, those are the real terrorist objects.
                    Actually, I was able to sneak on a full toothpaste tube and liquid soap (and it wasn't even travel size!)

                    However, they made me take my 360 out of my backpack and put it and each separate accessory in an individual tray.

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                    • RubenDouglas
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                      • May 2003
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                      #11
                      Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                      uhhhh thanks for telling us?

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42517

                        #12
                        Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                        Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                        uhhhh thanks for telling us?
                        Sorry, thought you might wanna know.
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                        • Blaxican8504
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #13
                          Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                          Good thing I fly out of Oakland!

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                          • oakfan162
                            Get Ducked Up!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 4724

                            #14
                            Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                            Originally posted by Blaxican8504
                            Good thing I fly out of Oakland!
                            Seriously! Oakland is like 10X easier to fly out of than SFO.
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                            • elicoleman
                              Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 34655

                              #15
                              Re: Three of our major airports (LAX, SFO, ORD) flunk fake bomb security tests

                              Atleast you can't hear the gunshots thanks to the noise from the plane.
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