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  • Hammerhunker
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3007

    #1

    HDMI/Component Conundrum

    A while back I got a new 42" Toshiba Plasma along with upgrading to Directv's HD DVR. I bought a monster HDMI cable with the tv. When I hooked everything up, the component cables that came with the DVR produced a better picture and sound than the Monster HDMI. At $100, I took the Monster HDMI back for a refund.

    My question is, why? HDMI is suppose to be a better I thought. Why is a set of generic components better than the $100 Monster HDMI? Am I missing something? I would appreciate it if anyone could weigh in on this.

    PS I have both the component and generic HDMI hooked up at the same time, does this make a difference? I wouldn't think so.
  • Bruins
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    • Mar 2004
    • 6433

    #2
    Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

    Monster cables are a ripoff.

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    • Scott
      Your Go-to TV Expert
      • Jul 2002
      • 20032

      #3
      Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

      Originally posted by Bruins
      Monster cables are a ripoff.
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      • ODogg
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        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #4
        Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

        Originally posted by Bruins
        Monster cables are a ripoff.
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        • Hammerhunker
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3007

          #5
          Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

          Originally posted by Bruins
          Monster cables are a ripoff.
          Obviously then. So it doesn't really matter what cables are used?
          Last edited by Hammerhunker; 01-06-2008, 04:16 PM. Reason: grammar

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          • ODogg
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #6
            Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

            Originally posted by Hammerhunker
            Obviously then. So it doesn't really matter what cables are used?
            Digital cables are not quality based from all i've read both here on OS and elsewhere. In other words, if you get a picture then it's as good as it gets. They either work or they don't. I suppose, in theory, if you got a really crappy cable that was unshielded in some form though you could get interference. But i've always just used cheap cables (less than $20) from cablestogo.com and they've worked great.
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            • ExtremeGamer
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              • Jul 2002
              • 35299

              #7
              Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

              Yep.

              HDMI are digital cables. Either you get a picture and sound or you don't. There's no degradation.

              Component cables are different, but even then, the cheap ones are basically the same as the Monster ones.

              Personally, I'd never buy Monster.

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              • Hammerhunker
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3007

                #8
                Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                Hmm. I am still a tad confused why I am getting better sound and picture with the components. Now, I am really a novice with HD, I can't really tell much difference picture wise. It seems that the component picture is a little crisper and definitely a better sound, but without changing the modes myself I wouldn't be able to tell you one from the other, picture wise.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #9
                  Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                  I've found the same thing. I believe it has a lot to do with your STB.

                  Had component, switched to HDMI, and back to component. This is only with my STB, mind you.
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                  • Hammerhunker
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3007

                    #10
                    Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                    Originally posted by Pared
                    I've found the same thing. I believe it has a lot to do with your STB.

                    Had component, switched to HDMI, and back to component. This is only with my STB, mind you.

                    I'm sorry, what does STB stand for?

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                    • Bruins
                      .
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 6433

                      #11
                      Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                      Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                      I'm sorry, what does STB stand for?
                      Set-top-box. Basically, your cable box.

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                      • caseyd
                        D*d y** g*t th* m*m*?
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2367

                        #12
                        Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                        I don't have LCD or Plasma, but a guy from the AVS forums told me this about HDMI and Component (mind you, this is on an HD rear projection so it may not be the same for others):

                        "I don't believe HDMI will be better on any CRT RPTV. Haven't done an AB on it, but HDMI is just another unecessary up/down digital conversion, and analog sets use RGB as their final stage, not digital. Component is the closest thing to RGB possible."

                        Not sure how that would translate to cable boxes, etc.
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                        • J-Unit40
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 8260

                          #13
                          Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                          Monster cables = rip-off
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                          • Hammerhunker
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3007

                            #14
                            Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                            Originally posted by J-Unit40
                            Monster cables = rip-off
                            Yes, that seems to be the consensus.

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                            • GAMEC0CK2002
                              Stayin Alive
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 10384

                              #15
                              Re: HDMI/Component Conundrum

                              Originally posted by caseyd
                              I don't have LCD or Plasma, but a guy from the AVS forums told me this about HDMI and Component (mind you, this is on an HD rear projection so it may not be the same for others):

                              "I don't believe HDMI will be better on any CRT RPTV. Haven't done an AB on it, but HDMI is just another unecessary up/down digital conversion, and analog sets use RGB as their final stage, not digital. Component is the closest thing to RGB possible."

                              Not sure how that would translate to cable boxes, etc.
                              I can vouch for this with the old school CRT RPTVs. My 51inch Phillips looks no better with HDMI than with component. I go with HDMI simply b/c it's fewer cords.

                              To the original poster....you can get a HDMI cable for less than $9 shipped at www.monoprice.com

                              Like everyone else has said, a digital signal is all or nothing. A cheap HDMI cable will give you the exact same picture as a overpriced one.

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