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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #211
    Re: Heath Ledger dead?

    Originally posted by eXperiment63
    Why? because suicide is Darwinism in action. Only the strongest survive. I have a very hardline view against suicide that has caused many fights so I won't get into my views in this thread. Mainly, because even if it was suicide by him, it appears to be an accidental suicide and not him actively choosing to end his life.

    Suicide is a coward's way out, which is why it is frowned upon.
    I completely understand that thinking, but usually the so-called "coward" isn't in a rational state of mind, commonly clinical depression, and can't think or behave like an everyday person. I've been down that dark road, and it isn't as simple as whether they're a coward or not. I think people need to realize that mental health is an incredibly strong factor in suicides and suicide attempts.
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    • Brandon13
      All Star
      • Oct 2005
      • 8915

      #212
      Re: Heath Ledger dead?

      Originally posted by Heelfan71
      guess we will wait on the autopsy. He's a piece of **** if he killed himself and did this to his family (especially the kid). Hopefully it wasn't suicide though.
      It's just not usually that simple, though. I'm just gonna say that as someone who's had a very close family member commit suicide that mental illness can have a complete stranglehold over a person's life.

      RIP Heath.

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      • eXperiment63
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 3077

        #213
        Re: Heath Ledger dead?

        Originally posted by J_Posse512
        I've been down that dark road, and it isn't as simple as whether they're a coward or not. I think people need to realize that mental health is an incredibly strong factor in suicides and suicide attempts.
        As have I, trust me...

        It is all about one's will to live, and their power to survive.

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        • Tommyklaid
          Legend
          • Jul 2006
          • 1859

          #214
          Re: Heath Ledger dead?

          Wow...

          28 yrs old...so much more to live...

          R.I.P. Heath...you're in a better place
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          • Kodiak33
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1093

            #215
            Re: Heath Ledger dead?

            Originally posted by Double Eights
            "The Joker's character is based on his first two appearances in the comic books, as well as his portrayal in the graphic novel "The Killing Joke." To prepare for the role, Heath Ledger lived alone in a hotel room for a month researching the character and developing his performance, which he claims is based upon Sid Vicious and the character of Alex in A Clockwork Orange (1971). Ledger found the role extremely difficult, and suffered insomnia as a result." -imdb.com

            It's possible.

            Method actors are incredible to me. RIP Heath.

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            • ManiacMatt1782
              Who? Giroux!
              • Jul 2006
              • 3982

              #216
              Re: Heath Ledger dead?

              I kinda feel i should change my avatar now. i know its a joke against the cowboys, and as an eagles fan, it is my right to laoth and take potshots at the cowboys. But seeing as it is in the opinion of many, Ledger's best role up until this point. (we actually have to see The Dark Knight before we say that is) It feels insensitive. So I am going to change it. RIP Heath. And may his daughter live on, and make it through this tragic ordeal.
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              • rubisco43
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 4372

                #217
                Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                RIP and all... it's a tragic death... but does this really change any of our lives? You don't need to feel guilty about your avatar ManiacMatt.
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                • ManiacMatt1782
                  Who? Giroux!
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3982

                  #218
                  Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                  i changed it anyway
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #219
                    Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                    This was terrible to hear... but I have to say, it's just as terrible that there are individuals out there who begin thinking about how their favorite movie series will be effected by this.

                    Not calling anyone out, just posting my feelings on the topic. I'm sure there are many out there who had the same reaction... it's just sad that this is what our society is centered around. Had it been our favorite athlete, others would wonder who is going to replace them and so on...

                    Tragic.
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                    • SportsTop
                      The Few. The Proud.
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 6716

                      #220
                      Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      This was terrible to hear... but I have to say, it's just as terrible that there are individuals out there who begin thinking about how their favorite movie series will be effected by this.

                      Not calling anyone out, just posting my feelings on the topic. I'm sure there are many out there who had the same reaction... it's just sad that this is what our society is centered around. Had it been our favorite athlete, others would wonder who is going to replace them and so on...

                      Tragic.
                      And I'm not condoning it, but isn't that why they are "famous" in the first place?
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                      • Skerik
                        Living in this tube
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5215

                        #221
                        Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                        Sounds like Heath was quite the troubled guy. This is worth a read.

                        The news of Brokeback Mountain star Heath Ledger’s death in a New York apartment has caused shockwaves around the world, but it didn’t surprise one Hollywood star. Veteran actor Jack Nicholson was aware of Ledger's plight and had warned him.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #222
                          Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                          Originally posted by Squint
                          And I'm not condoning it, but isn't that why they are "famous" in the first place?
                          Yes, it is... but when you look at most people's reactions... it's almost like they're not even really sorry the person is dead. The conversation can soon swiftly change to "Now what are they going to do in this movie?" The same conversation would happen if the person didn't do the sequel or was traded from a certain team, etc...

                          Just an observation on our society. Then again, look on the cover of your local newspaper and this becomes front page news:



                          It's just odd. Maybe I'm sounding old (to some) as I near my 30's... again, it's merely an observation.
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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #223
                            Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                            You sound very logical but Squint makes a good point. I've lost family members recently. if somehow everyone here found out about it when it happened you'd either respond to me b/c you know me or not at all. The reason everyone cares about HL is b/c of his fame. There is no personal relationship. I feel sorry for every family that has to lose someone, especially a husband/wife, father/mother and at such a young age. But my connection to HL is through his work so personally, my feelings of not being able to see him act any more are about as strong as just general sadness for those he left behind.

                            At the very least, if you felt he had a bright future you'd feel bad that he now can't reach it (exactly how I felt about Alayah) wishing him nothing but the best. But that's something you know personally more than his relationship with his family or just how he lived his life. Know what I mean?

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                            • Heelfan71
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 19940

                              #224
                              Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                              My guess is an accidental drug overdose.........apparently Jack Nicolson warned him. About what I have no idea.

                              The news of Brokeback Mountain star Heath Ledger’s death in a New York apartment has caused shockwaves around the world, but it didn’t surprise one Hollywood star. Veteran actor Jack Nicholson was aware of Ledger's plight and had warned him.



                              The comment came as it emerged that police had recovered a $20 note with traces of narcotic residue from the apartment.

                              A source told CBS 2 that several drug packets containing an unknown substance had also been found.
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                              • Heelfan71
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 19940

                                #225
                                Re: Heath Ledger dead?

                                Originally posted by Court_vision
                                He was on PRESCRIPTON medicine...

                                Big, big difference mate.
                                dude was in rehab before for heroin so don't be so confident he wasn't on something.
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