You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

[Hooe]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

Another guy maybe worth mention is Longineu Parsons of Yellowcard. He's done some fairly impressive things for being in an "Warped Tour rock" band.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

Drumming isn't all about technical proficiency....

In todays world of music I'd say it is. Fast, hard, and loud is considered skill now. Not funky stuff. I'm not farmiliar with this guy but I'd say if you took him out of jazz and funk he'd not do so well just like if you took Travis Barker out of rock. I probably take Keith Moon for my drummer though.

[Chief Illinimac]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

In todays world of music I'd say it is. Fast, hard, and loud is considered skill now. Not funky stuff. I'm not farmiliar with this guy but I'd say if you took him out of jazz and funk he'd not do so well just like if you took Travis Barker out of rock. I probably take Keith Moon for my drummer though.

If you had any idea of what jazz/funk is, you would realize that they are the epitome of musicianship. Jazz is probably by far the most difficult style of music to learn to play, regardless of the instrument. As a musician myself, I have a massive appreciation for anyone who can do jazz well. And Skerik is right, technical proficiency isn't only about being the fastest. Complicated polyrhythms require far more skill than just playing cliched rock drum solos.

[eXperiment63]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

There is little musicianship in Rock music these days. All the great musicians are either in jazz or metal, or even blues. Great musicianship doesn't get you radio plays, simple rhythms with catchy hooks does.

I listen to rock because I can relate to a lot of the lyrics, and there are some amazing vocalists out there.
I listen to metal because of the supreme musicianship.
I listen to blues because of the amount of emotion poured into it and the tone and skill level of the guitar being played.

I don't listen to jazz, but damn do I appreciate the skill level most jazz musicians are at.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

If you had any idea of what jazz/funk is, you would realize that they are the epitome of musicianship. Jazz is probably by far the most difficult style of music to learn to play, regardless of the instrument. As a musician myself, I have a massive appreciation for anyone who can do jazz well. And Skerik is right, technical proficiency isn't only about being the fastest. Complicated polyrhythms require far more skill than just playing cliched rock drum solos.

I know that. I love jazz. It's just not so appreciated now. Most people I know considered what I stated being the signs of a great drummer. He's good but I wouldn't pick him.

[Herbsinator]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

If you had any idea of what jazz/funk is, you would realize that they are the epitome of musicianship. Jazz is probably by far the most difficult style of music to learn to play, regardless of the instrument. As a musician myself, I have a massive appreciation for anyone who can do jazz well. And Skerik is right, technical proficiency isn't only about being the fastest. Complicated polyrhythms require far more skill than just playing cliched rock drum solos.

It's not even about playing the rhythm correctly....its about keeping the beat laid back enough (timing wise) to make it sound good. Listen to Chad Sexton from 311 and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

[CS10029]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

Mike Portnoy...

[Chief Illinimac]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

It's not even about playing the rhythm correctly....its about keeping the beat laid back enough (timing wise) to make it sound good. Listen to Chad Sexton from 311 and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

311? Good band, but he doesn't even come close to what I'm talking about.

[Herbsinator]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

311? Good band, but he doesn't even come close to what I'm talking about.

have you ever heard the drummer for 311. Do yourself a favor and listen to Beyond The Gray Sky. But it is useless to argue about music anyway. A drummer who can play a complex rhythm is good like in jazz, but great drummers are the ones who can play simple beats and make them groove hard. Listen to Motown....the drum beats aren't overly complex...but they just groove so hard. To me...that is what makes a good drummer.

[GamingJones]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

Forget that junk, draft for the future Lebron James style...

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[Chief Illinimac]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

have you ever heard the drummer for 311. Do yourself a favor and listen to Beyond The Gray Sky. But it is useless to argue about music anyway. A drummer who can play a complex rhythm is good like in jazz, but great drummers are the ones who can play simple beats and make them groove hard. Listen to Motown....the drum beats aren't overly complex...but they just groove so hard. To me...that is what makes a good drummer.

Yes I have heard the drummer for 311, I am a 311 fan. However, while what you say is true, it doesn't fit what I was talking about. Just because he keeps a good groove on a simple beat does not mean hes keeping a complicated polyrhythm while improvising it. I'm not arguing that he's not a good drummer, I'm just saying that what I was talking about and what you are talking about are not the same thing. That's all.

[luv_mist]

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Forget that junk, draft for the future Lebron James style...

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My man isn't bad at all. I like that he is flexible with the styles that he's comign across in the video.

On another note, I'm curious to know what you guys are using as a basis for who's better than who. The only thing that really stands out to me is the setup of the drums and the movement the guys use to hit them. Thanks for that collaboration between ?uestlove & Barker. That was pretty solid.

[joshuar9476]

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Gene Krupa also says "hi."

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bad a** clip ... thanks for the krupa and rich references. as a jazz enthusiast, i completely agree.

as to the question though ... i'd take ?. i'm not a big rap fan, but i do like the rap groups that play instruments .. the roots, a tribe called quest, jurrasic 5.

[Chief Illinimac]

Re: You need a drummer for your band - ?uestlove or Travis Barker?

bad a** clip ... thanks for the krupa and rich references. as a jazz enthusiast, i completely agree.

as to the question though ... i'd take ?. i'm not a big rap fan, but i do like the rap groups that play instruments .. the roots, a tribe called quest, jurrasic 5.

That's because good rap is more than just reciting rhymes over samples.