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  • Hassan Darkside
    We Here
    • Sep 2003
    • 7561

    #1

    In a bit of a predicament...

    Ok, well I seem to be caught in a pickle right now. In short, what happened was that my friend received an e-mail from the DMCA administrator about a copywrited file that was made available for the public on his or his roommates computer. Well, the culprit was me. All they have is an IP address which is the one that belongs to him. But he has a wireless network set up here at the dorms so everyone that uses it has the same IP address. So I share that IP address. They don't know that though. Anyway, the e-mail they sent says:

    It has come to our attention that copyrighted material is or was available for public access from a computer in your room. Specifically,
    (a) copyrighted copy(ies) of...
    <o></o>
    The Wire
    <o></o>
    ...has (have) been found available to the public via your network connection numbered TP02A in 258 Slusher Hall.
    <o></o>
    It is our understanding this (these) copy(ies) is (are) not authorized for reproduction or distribution at your site. This notice is sent to all roommates in the identified room. It pertains to the individual whose computer is connected to the previously-listed portal (or Ethernet connection).
    <o></o>
    Unauthorized use of Virginia Tech communications facilities and disregard for intellectual and artistic property rights are violations of Virginia Tech's Policies: #2015 - "Acceptable Use of Computer and Communication Systems" and, "Acceptable Use of Information Systems at Virginia Tech".
    <o></o>
    Additionally, ***>this activity violates federal and/or state copyright laws and may constitute a criminal violation, subjecting you to both criminal and civil legal charges.<*** Information on related legal issues my be reviewed at the URL:
    <o></o>

    <o></o>
    >>> READ THIS CAREFULLY...
    If you do not send an e-mail reply to this message within twenty-four hours (one business day) of the time this note was sent, commenting on your involvement or knowledge of this incident and confirming you have ceased unauthorized sharing of copyrighted files, your network access will be curtailed. It will not be reactivated until you send e-mail to [email protected] to confirm that the problem with your computer has been resolved.
    <o></o>
    THIS CASE IS BEING REFERRED TO THE UNIVERSITY'S JUDICIAL AFFAIRS OFFICE FOR FURTHER ACTION. Judicial Affairs may be contacted by phone at 1-3790 or by e-mail to [email protected].
    <o></o>
    NOTE: Refer any technical questions or comments on this matter to 4Help by calling 231-HELP (231-4357 or, 4-4357 on campus) or via the web at http://4help.vt.edu.
    So I'm wondering what I should do after I find this out. The thing that strikes me the most is that they picked up this particular thing and I had only DL'd 360 mbs. I'm pretty sure they only picked it up through torrent because I was seeding it as well (my own fault) and they had scouts out looking and I happened to be caught. Well, I thought about it and I replied back (as my friend who received the e-mail):

    I apologize for this situation, but I am completely unaware of the circumstances described. I currently have and have had a wireless network set up in my room. What I can assume happened is that
    somebody connected wirelessly to my network and made the file available. I know for sure that it was not me nor my roommate. Everyone that connects to my network shares the IP Address that was listed in the Infringement Details, so it very well could have been anyone. My router did go down for a reason I am not sure of, but it could have been you guys disconnecting me. I was not sure at the time of the situation what the problem was, so as a result I eventually had to completely reboot my router and start from scratch. What I can do from now on is restrict access and password protect my network to ensure that this does not happen again under my supervision.


    Thank you for the notification.
    To which they replied...

    Mr. xxxxxxxx,
    <o></o>
    Thank you for your reply. If you have an unsecured wireless router, it is within the realm of possibilities that someone other than you or your roommate made this material available over the VT network. Therefore, it is wise that you have chosen to password protect your router to prevent receipt of future copyright complaints. However, under the Virginia Tech Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), "you are responsible for all activities on your userid or that originate from your system."
    <o></o>
    Further questions about this case should be referred to Judicial Affairs' staff. They may be contacted by phone at 1-3790 or by e-mail to [email protected]. They also have a web site at www.judicial.vt.edu.
    <o></o>
    Thank you,
    Phil Norman
    So right now I'm wondering what I should do now. The consequences I think that can be faced is that at worst both my friend and his roommate will have to attend a class. But I don't even know if they can get a judicial referral just because they technically had no knowledge of this situation. If I come out and take the hit, I know I could face the same punishment alone with a judicial referral. But a lot of the wording leaves some up to interpretation such as the fact that "It has come to our attention that copyrighted material is or was available for public access from a computer in your room. Specifically, (a) copyrighted copy(ies) of...
    <o></o>
    The Wire
    <o></o>
    ...has (have) been found available to the public via your network"


    So they way I see it is that they are just making mention that it was made available, not that it was downloaded or uploaded. Can you get into a lot of trouble for that? Or just a warning?

    Regardless, I'm trying to figure out the next move from here minimizing the consequences. Should I call and try to iron it out over phone? Should I e-mail them back? Should I just take the hit?

    I was thinking of e-mailing them back and asking what type of trouble can be gotten into from someone who was completely unaware of the situation. Or what happens if my friend is able to track down the culprit.



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  • McLite
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 2113

    #2
    Re: In a bit of a predicament...

    Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
    I was thinking of e-mailing them back and asking what type of trouble can be gotten into from someone who was completely unaware of the situation. Or what happens if my friend is able to track down the culprit.
    Interesting post. The only problem I see is emailing them back and asking what type of trouble an unaware person would get in. That's a dead giveaway to me. Innocent people are shocked that they are being accused of infractions...guilty people always ask about the punishment or what happens if they find the guilty party. I've had suspects volunteer to help me look for the "bad guy" on several occasions.

    I think if you really fight it and play innocent they wouldn't really mess with you. It's a wireless router which wasn't protected...you are really going to punish me for something I didn't do? I guess the honorable thing to do though is take the hit for everyone and serve the time. In the end it's your call.
    - The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: In a bit of a predicament...

      I'd serve the time. The worse that can happen is a class or a fine and assurances that you password protect the wireless system.

      Of course depending on said fine that might not be so hot of an idea but it's the honorable thing and in their eyes you're innocent as the driven snow since this was your first infraction.
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      • ndeezlo
        Fum police
        • Jul 2002
        • 3272

        #4
        Re: In a bit of a predicament...

        You need to be a man about the situation. Does your friend even know you've been replying to his emails?
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        • PVarck31
          Moderator
          • Jan 2003
          • 16869

          #5
          Re: In a bit of a predicament...

          Is this an April fools joke?

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #6
            Re: In a bit of a predicament...

            Originally posted by pjv31
            Is this an April fools joke?
            If it is it's a pretty elaborate hoax to put together. I'd tread carefully here unless you have a real good idea about the possible consequences. If it's just a class and no more uploading of copyrighted material then take the hit. I'd throw around a few hypothetical questions to people possibly in the know, including some law students.

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            • DuffysCliff
              Rookie
              • Jan 2004
              • 294

              #7
              Re: In a bit of a predicament...

              This is very similar to what happened to me a week or so ago, and I was also trying to download The Wire. I go to the University of Vermont and (in simplest terms) all they did was email me telling me to stop or else they'd cut my internet access. So I emailed them back saying I had, and it was all taken care of. And after all that, the sound on the file didn't even work, so I couldn't even enjoy it while it lasted.

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              • TheGamingChef
                MVP
                • Jun 2006
                • 3384

                #8
                Re: In a bit of a predicament...

                I think Duffy is probably right. First time offender, you took care of it right away, and for all they know it wasn't even you. I'd lay low and wait for them to make the next move... if they do anything else at all.

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                • Hokie20
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 351

                  #9
                  Re: In a bit of a predicament...

                  Take the hit.

                  It's your computer and you of all people should know not to use torrents on VT's network. They get you on the uploads, not the downloads.

                  I had exactly the opposite situation happen: My roomate didn't realize program was on and then they pulled the plug, then he unpluged my computer and plugged into my port, killing my internet. When I got back to my room to take a blackboard quiz, I didn't have a connection and fought the IT guy on the phone about reconnecting me, even though he had no control over it.

                  Then, for some reason, I never got the e-mail until I got a judicial review notice. I was pissed, had to miss a class and went over to Dietrick for something I didn't do at all. Thankfully the guy figured it out that it was my roomate, but it was a pain in my side to have to go and defend myself for no apparent reason.

                  Take the hit. It's your fault. Don't pass it to your roomate. Put yourself in his shoes. Would you want to be charged with something if he was the culprit?

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                  • Hassan Darkside
                    We Here
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 7561

                    #10
                    Re: In a bit of a predicament...

                    Originally posted by ndeezlo
                    You need to be a man about the situation. Does your friend even know you've been replying to his emails?
                    Yea, he told me to because I was just telling him what to write so he just said for me to send it from his e-mail.

                    And unfortunately, no, it's not an April Fool's joke...unless I'm getting played.

                    I think I'll just wait for them to make the next move as TGC recommended. If they want to punish them then I'll step up and take it.
                    [NYK|DAL|VT]
                    A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
                    You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
                    Royce da 5'9"


                    Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                    How many brothers fell victim to the skeet.........

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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #11
                      Re: In a bit of a predicament...

                      Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
                      Yea, he told me to because I was just telling him what to write so he just said for me to send it from his e-mail.

                      And unfortunately, no, it's not an April Fool's joke...unless I'm getting played.

                      I think I'll just wait for them to make the next move as TGC recommended. If they want to punish them then I'll step up and take it.
                      Odds are it's just a scare tactic (which you should heed)...if they keep coming, then you gotta step up so your friend doesn't take the fall, but I'd personally keep my mouth shut until the last possible moment. See if it's just a warning, or if they really want blood first.
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