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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #1

    Techno in bed with R&B

    How do you feel about this mix of genres becoming popular?

    Three examples off the top of my head:

    Janet Jackson - Rock With U
    Ne-Yo - Closer
    Rihanna - Please Don't Stop The Music

    Timbaland/Danja are probably the two most popular Hip-Hop producers that are making money with this fusion. Well, they are two of the guys I can think of right off the bat that have produced a few tracks with techno themes.


    Personally, I think it's a nice fresh look at R&B. It's always been my belief that while Rap is getting worse, R&B finds a way to remain fresh by incorporating new elements. This is R&B's new fresh element.
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  • SPTO
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    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: Techno in bed with R&B

    This is nothing new. R&B has always been a very inclusive genre of music. We've seen blues, jazz, funk, hip hop, disco, gospel and now techno being huge elements of the sound. To me, this is what makes R&B a far more fresh and interesting genre then most as about every decade or so something new (or old, such was the case in the mid 80s when the Motown sound became insanely popular again) comes along and merges with the current flavour of R&B. It's an ever evolving genre that remains as fresh today as it was in the late 50s when it emerged from its blues oriented roots.
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    • Flyboy
      Daydream Believer
      • Jun 2003
      • 11352

      #3
      Re: Techno in bed with R&B

      I don't know if you can call it techno, though. I mean, Timbaland/Danja might have a unique sound but it still sounds nothing like techno to me. But then again that's just my imo.
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      • Dame
        Sweettouch
        • Jul 2004
        • 1246

        #4
        Re: Techno in bed with R&B

        most people call it HOUSE music
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: Techno in bed with R&B

          Originally posted by sweettouch
          most people call it HOUSE music
          What's the difference between techno and house?

          Honest question on my part.
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          • Flyboy
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            • Jun 2003
            • 11352

            #6
            Re: Techno in bed with R&B

            Originally posted by sweettouch
            most people call it HOUSE music
            My prime example would be Timbaland & Danja's production with Madonna, Britney Spears & especially Nelly Furtado... I just consider it pop.
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            • Dame
              Sweettouch
              • Jul 2004
              • 1246

              #7
              Re: Techno in bed with R&B

              Originally posted by Flyboy
              My prime example would be Timbaland & Danja's production with Madonna, Britney Spears & especially Nelly Furtado... I just consider it pop.
              yeah i can see that
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              • SqueakyD
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 2015

                #8
                Re: Techno in bed with R&B

                A bit off topic, maybe... but remember when early 90's dance music (house --> eurodance) incorporated rap in the middle of the songs? Stuff like Real McCoy and 2 Unlimited? Man I thought that was the coolest stuff back then but now when I listen to them I can't help but laugh at the lyrics!

                Originally posted by SPTO
                What's the difference between techno and house?

                Honest question on my part.
                Guy named Ishkur made a really nice guide to electronic music.... shows the evolution of the different subgenres and has samples for each one...

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #9
                  Re: Techno in bed with R&B

                  Originally posted by sweettouch
                  most people call it HOUSE music
                  I considered saying House was in bed with R&B but decided against it since I thought more people were aware of Techno music while House still remains a confusing genre for most.

                  House is the better term in relation to the music we're hearing so I agree.


                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  What's the difference between techno and house?

                  Honest question on my part.
                  Someone else could probably explain better but techno is mostly synthesized while House is normally different for it's inclusion of a drum machine kick.

                  So yea, it confirms that House music is the actual genre being fused with R&B.



                  Originally posted by Flyboy
                  My prime example would be Timbaland & Danja's production with Madonna, Britney Spears & especially Nelly Furtado... I just consider it pop.
                  I understand but the production is still different. They may be singing pop but their form of pop is very r&bish. And the music production has strong house elements. The continuous, repeated drum line and heavy use of synthesizers is house. The rest, such as the composition, samples being used, and background are R&B-like.

                  What makes them pop is the vocals, lyrics. There is a significant difference between Furtado's Man Eater and I'm Like A Bird, Madonna's 4 Minutes and Take A Bow, or even Britney Spears' Gimme and Oops! I Did It Again.

                  Their styles have changed because of the music production.
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #10
                    Re: Techno in bed with R&B

                    Let's just hope someone doesn't think Forever by Chris Brown is a mix with Techno...
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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #11
                      Re: Techno in bed with R&amp;B

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      Let's just hope someone doesn't think Forever by Chris Brown is a mix with Techno...
                      "[Forever] is more of a European, techno, house-type feel," Brown recalled.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #12
                        Re: Techno in bed with R&amp;B

                        This is the new thing. Mixing in those elements.

                        I'm not saying that it's heavy, heavy techno, house, electronica, acid, whatever. I'm just saying that the basic, most recognized elements of that music is making a strong emphasis on R&B music.

                        Chris Brown, by the way, refers to himself as a pop artist. I wonder if BET got the memo.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • Pete1210
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 3277

                          #13
                          Re: Techno in bed with R&amp;B

                          Cheating bitch!

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #14
                            Re: Techno in bed with R&amp;B

                            Originally posted by YankeePride
                            "[Forever] is more of a European, techno, house-type feel," Brown recalled.
                            lol then he's wrong as it's obviously Euro-pop.

                            IT'S SO OBVIOUS IT'S SMACKING YOU IN THE FACE AND MAKING OUT WITH YOUR LITTLE SISTER.

                            It's not techno or house. That's an insult to both types of music.
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