Superman Trilogy......

[marshallfever]

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Robinov says Warners's upcoming DC movie slate is "going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," and the next Superman movie will be no exception.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/926/926826p4.html

[Fresh Tendrils]

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But it seems to me that the majority of Batman fanatics simply cannot accept that Batman can be beaten by any man (or thing) at any time. And that's why in his world, it never happens because there would be a major outcry from the pro-Batman community and sales would suffer.

I wouldn't have a problem agreeing to the fact that Batman can be broken/beaten and he has been broken several times. I don't see how any Batman fanatic could not accept that.

And there will never be a realistic or fair portrayal of comics, because they're always going to appeal to the writer's intention and motives, but they are comics after all. Pure fantasy and trying to approach comics realistically takes away from that IMO.

I just thought it would be cool to see Batsy beat up Supes on the big-screen. Nothing more. Nothing less. *Keeps fingers crossed for The Dark Knight Returns movie*

[Lintyfresh85]

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Here's the problem with Superman... in your scenario... all he'd have to do is go fly around the world to spin it backwards and then either a) move the 100's of people out of harms way before hand... or b) save louis ahead of time.

He's just too strong of a character and nothing he faces ever really stands a true chance at defeating him.

And with that, that's the problem with his character... it does not create enough drama to entice movie goers to really get involved in the movie.

In the Dark Knight, you could sense that Batman was an equal, or possibly a weaker character than The Joker. I just don't feel that way about Superman and his villians.

[Money99]

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Here's the problem with Superman... in your scenario... all he'd have to do is go fly around the world to spin it backwards and then either a) move the 100's of people out of harms way before hand... or b) save louis ahead of time.

He's just too strong of a character and nothing he faces ever really stands a true chance at defeating him.

And with that, that's the problem with his character... it does not create enough drama to entice movie goers to really get involved in the movie.

In the Dark Knight, you could sense that Batman was an equal, or possibly a weaker character than The Joker. I just don't feel that way about Superman and his villians.

I have the same issue with Superman. That's why I think they really need to tone down his powers.
In this 'reboot' it would be cool if it was perceived that he was able to run faster than a speeding bullet, or was indestructible.
All of this could be from people spreading wild rumors after he first appears to the masses.
But after an interview with Lois, we would find out that he can in fact be hurt by things like a Missle, a tank blast, a nuclear bomb. Etc.
Maybe even to the point of death if he's struck so many times by all of the above.

But even then, Superman's greatest power is that he is so powerful and yet he refuses to use his abilities for personal gain. He uses them to help people. That's his true appeal.
Not only that, but Superman feels personally responsible if anyone is hurt on his watch.

Batman's different in that he'll make hard decisions for the greater good or the bigger picture. He'll let one person die to save 1000. Superman would do his best to do both.
And if they can make it so Sups does have some limitations so he can't possibley save every living soul, we'll see that dramatic side of his character and his flaws in that he feels responsible for everyone and everything.

[Leon]

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I think it's commonly accepted that Superman spinning the world backwards in-order to correct a wrong is, well, WRONG and downright stupid. As far as I can recall, the last time Superman did that was in "Superman: The Movie."

If Warner Bros. wants to do this right, please, PLEASE, go get Geoff Johns. He's been doing wonders for Superman throughout his run on the comics.

[marshallfever]

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I guess no one noticed my post, but it seems as i this new Superman movie whatever it'll be will have a darker tone than the last one

Robinov says Warners's upcoming DC movie slate is "going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," and the next Superman movie will be no exception

Not sure how this will sit with many fanboys though

[JayBee74]

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I guess no one noticed my post, but it seems as i this new Superman movie whatever it'll be will have a darker tone than the last one



Not sure how this will sit with many fanboys though

Anything that sets itself apart from Superman Returns is welcome. A totally flat, boring effort of a good premise.

[SPTO]

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Anything that sets itself apart from Superman Returns is welcome. A totally flat, boring effort of a good premise.

Eh, I liked Superman Returns. I guess i'm in the minority.

As for a darker Supes...That can lead to some really heady stuff. I mean everything i've read that tries to take Supes in a dark direction has him as a neurotic, unsure of himself demigod wondering if he should use his powers to save the world.

In a word it would be overwrought.

[Money99]

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Eh, I liked Superman Returns. I guess i'm in the minority.

As for a darker Supes...That can lead to some really heady stuff. I mean everything i've read that tries to take Supes in a dark direction has him as a neurotic, unsure of himself demigod wondering if he should use his powers to save the world.

In a word it would be overwrought.

I agree on both counts.
I actually enjoyed Superman Returns and I don't think Superman needs to be dark. The only way it could be dark is by how the criminals act in it.
If Lex is a psychopath, or Doomsday is an unstoppable killing machine, then I can see it going down that dark path.

But as far as Clark's character, I don't want to see him as a sniveling, unsure, weenie. Sups is strong and level-headed. He doesn't bend his morals to appease anyone.

Make the villians dark. Make the dangers facing Superman dark. But the man himself should be uncompromisingly good.

[CaptainZombie]

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This is what I posted 2 months ago in the other Superman thread we had going. It was directed to SPTO on how a Doomsday trilogy could be good.

SPTO, if done right, they could really pull it off without Superman for 1 movie. Reign of the Supermen was interesting and it could be adapted to the screen very well. Imagine having not 1, but 4 guys thinking they are Superman and they are trying to save mankind. Yet, with the twist about one of them being bad from the original storyline.



No return of Shaq either as Steel or AKA The Man of Steel.







Hell, they could end the second film show a glimpse of Clark/Supes trapped somewhere.

[Blzer]

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Christopher Nolan is to help out with new Superman project:

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-its-chris-nolan-hell-mentor-superman-3-0-while-preparing-3rd-batman/

[marshallfever]

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Christopher Nolan is to help out with new Superman project:

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/it...ng-3rd-batman/

Interesting indeed, Nolan looking over the movie can only be a good thing

[SPTO]

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Christopher Nolan is to help out with new Superman project:

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/it...ng-3rd-batman/

As long as he doesn't push it to a "grim and gritty" direction then i'm fine with this. If they go grim and gritty then it's not going to work. Superman is NOT a dark character, pensive and philosophical at times yes, but never outright dark.

[MassNole]

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There is a graphic novel where Superman lands in the USSR and not Kansas, I think it was called The Red Son. It was an amazing graphic novel, second only for me to The Dark Knight Returns (which too would be an EPIC movie) and would provide a spark to the franchise.

[Leon]

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There is a graphic novel where Superman lands in the USSR and not Kansas, I think it was called The Red Son. It was an amazing graphic novel, second only for me to The Dark Knight Returns (which too would be an EPIC movie) and would provide a spark to the franchise.

Agreed on how great that graphic novel was. It's an elseworlds tale though, so they'll have to hammer that point in that it's an alternate universe.

Nolan overseeing the series is a good thing. As many have said though, make the situation/villains he face dark, not Superman himself.