Question for hip-hop fans.....

[Rocky]

How can you tell if a hip-hop beat is a sample of another/older song? It seems like all the time, a song that I thought had an original beat was actually a sample. Doesn't matter either way because it still sounds nice, but I just found it interesting.

Is there anyway to just "tell"?

[ehh]

Re: Question for hip-hop fans.....

I can never tell for sure unless I recognize the sample but most hip-hop songs contains samples, I'm frankly more surprised when something is completely original.

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

Re: Question for hip-hop fans.....

If you know who produced it you can make an educated guess on whether the producer usually samples or doesn't. If it's a Kanye beat you know it's sampled. Other than that, you can check liner notes of the CD or just do a google search and see what you can find.

I have to be honest, I've been darn near heartbroken a few times when I heard the samples for some songs that I loved and I realized the producer basically stole the entire beat of an older song.

[Nivek]

Re: Question for hip-hop fans.....

I have to be honest, I've been darn near heartbroken a few times when I heard the samples for some songs that I loved and I realized the producer basically stole the entire beat of an older song.

Ugh, I know the feeling far too well. I love 70's music, and almost every hiphop producer in the 90's sampled at least something from that decade. But on the flipside, it can be absolutely sick. Ex. 9th wonder.

[Jukeman]

Re: Question for hip-hop fans.....

mostly every hip hop song you hear has some kind of sample to it, whether its the hook, beat or melody.....Its how hip hop was started......."Hip Pop" its mostly original beats......Some people call sampling not being creative which I hate....lusten to premo, 9th, pete rock etc...they flip the sh*** out of songs and make it something new! Just blaze is one of my favorite I love how he uses the sample as instruments...then you have songs that are just loops of a sample like Dr Carter on The Carter III.....Sampling IS Hip Hop

But to answer your question...Eastcoast is known for sampling more than like the dirty south or west coast but even those styles sample, just in different ways...."The Chronic" was a sampled base album....The Runners(down south producers) is known for sampling lyrics from a song and changing the pitch then make it a hook but they still have that dirty south feel to it(Money on my mind, errday Im hustlin etc...)

This is why I dont get it when people single out Kanye when it comes to sampling...everybody has they own style, the why he sample is easier to reconize the original song vs some one like Blaze...Cameron's "Oh boy" is a perfect example, I bet some people dont know that was a sample of Rose Royce's "Im going Down" which Mary J Blidge later remade...

Cant say I heard Scott Storch sample but he mainly use a original melody(started out as a keyboard player for The Roots)

Timberland even sampled!

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Question for hip-hop fans.....

Yeah Tim rarely samples, but hes one of the few pure beatmakers out there....