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  • CMH
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    The Shining (film). Horrible.

    Stanley Kubrick's The Shining is not a good movie. Seriously, people were excited about this movie in the 70's?

    It's poorly acted with the exception of Nicholson who gives a great performance, though I have to wonder if it's only good because everyone else was so bad.

    It felt like everyone was reading off a cue card on one take with no previous knowledge of the situation or script. Nicholson, again, was light years ahead of his supporting cast. Couple this with One Flew Over The Cookoos Nest and it's obvious why he was loved by many and continues to be today.

    I do have to give Shelley Duvall credit for her scenes with fear. Hard to see that today and after feeling like grinding teeth as she acted like Ms. happy Wendy, I see why she was given this role.

    Anyway, it's not the acting that ruin this film; it's the lack of explanation that creates random occurences that hardly make any sense. The film was written for a reader of the novel that wanted to see a visual of their imagination. Unfortunately, they failed to please me because the movie doesn't touch the book's excellent story telling.

    I feel horrible for viewers that have only experienced the film: it doesn't make any sense and it leaves out crucial bits of information that were oddly enough still important pieces of the film's plot. How does that work?

    A few examples:

    1. There's no horror without fear, so lets make fear.

    There is history in all films - a background if you must. Some back story can help build character. Some build plot. The Shining needed back story to build plot. Yet, for easons unknown, it ignored the most important of backstories in Jack's life - that he was a violent alcoholic who lost his job as a teacher for physically beating a student and had seriously injured his son.

    Now, the injury is mentioned but it's explanation comes at a trivial time. Perhaps, you can say that plot was revealed in terrible order.

    We know that Danny was injured by Jack, but Danny shows no ill effects or fear as a result of the situation. For most of the early scenes, there is only happiness. That is until Danny wants to grab his fire truck which happens to be in the same room his dad is sleeping in.

    Danny recieves permission to get his toy and finds Jack sitting up in bed. Danny expresses a fear for his dad that has no basis since he had never expressed any fear prior. Jack also has done nothing up to this point so why would Danny suddenly fear his father? There is no explanation in the film because there is no explanation period.

    Well, actually there is a reason. The audience needs to know that Jack is beginning to lose his marbles. Sadly, we never see why. Jack just suddenly falls into an abyss of madness.

    2. Give me another one Lloyd.

    Sure, we realize that things are going a bit crazy and something is not right. So when Jack abuptly wanders into the ballroom bar, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Jack is met by a real life bar tender. What's really a surprise is Jack needing a drink in the first place.

    The film offers some backstory on Jack once drinking and dislocating his son's shoulder. Wendy even explains that he stopped drinking so she wouldn't leave him. Yet not once were we led to believe that Jack had the urge to binge with the likes of Dean Martin and Fred Astaire. He simply had no urges and never indicated a desire to knock back a bottle again.

    So when Jack suddenly hits the bar and utters the words: "I need a drink," it's purely plot driven drivel with no supporting explanation. This is a man that has commented on his committment to being sober (3 years in fact) and without a reason, an explanation, or pressure is driven to drink again? I don't buy it and Kubrick lost me.

    3. There's a party in my house and everyone's invited.

    In the book, there is actually a very deep back story that explains why the hotel has so many lively occupants and what their true intentions might be. Kubrick obviously thought none of that was important because a room full of strangers on a random night in a previously empty hotel is weird enough to make things interesting. That's poor writing.

    We are supposed to accept these newcomers without a hint as to who they are? Why? We know Jack has lost his marbles (the music tells me so) but that doesn't explain why there are 100 people dancing in a ballroom. And it's never explained. They are just there.

    Well, that's not entirely true. Jack is the house keeper. For as long as Grady can remember at least...or because a picture taken in 1921 says so.

    Why does this matter? It doesn't because there's no basis for Jack coming back to the hotel. He needs to kill because he returned to the place he had always been? This is going nowhere. It's added mystery to confuse the viewer, only there is no flipping to the back of the book to find out how Encyclopedia Brown always knew. The pages were ripped out or Kubrick decided they werent't important.

    4. Can you hear me?

    I couldn't and maybe that was the point. The Shining is only for those special someone's. We aren't supposed to know how it works. But wait, didn't Halloran speak to Danny through telekinisis and didn't we hear him do it? Why yes, yes we did.

    So why does Halloran lie in his bedroom (with two large pictures of naked blck woman...talk about odd set design. It's almost as if they weren't sure how to paint this guy) and widen his eyes while leaving us in mystery?

    Wait, why am I asking? We're the audience and we don't need to know.

    Of course, Grady (good ol' Grady. He's like the guy that jumps in during a story that someone is screwing up royally. "No, no dude, it was like this, remember?") spills the beans when he reveals that Danny is trying to include another party through communication.

    It just would have been nice to see that happening because you know the film is called The Shining so go figure they would include moments when a character, oh, I don't know...shines?

    5. Pull my finger. No, seriously, pull it.

    Tony is a kid that lives in Danny's mouth and he talks when Danny wiggles his little finger.

    This is what having The Shining gets you: a make believe friend so bad, you don't even give him a face.

    It would have been more effective ( not to mention that Kubrick's awesome quick cuts could have been used) if Tony was actually a little boy that Danny sees. Genius idea, right? If only someone thought of that.

    Oh, wait, you mean that Stephen King already did in the book that this film is based on? No. I can't believe it. A wiggling finger had to be the first and only idea. I'm positive that if someone stood up and said to Kubrick: "Shouldn't we cast a real kid to play Tony? I mean, we can even use the same kid," then Kubrick would have used it. I'm sure. 100% positive. No way you choose a wiggling finger over an actual kid. Not possible.

    This movie was garbage.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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  • rockchisler
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    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #2
    Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

    Originally posted by YankeePride
    Stanley Kubrick's The Shining is not a good movie. Seriously, people were excited about this movie in the 70's?

    It's poorly acted with the exception of Nicholson who gives a great performance, though I have to wonder if it's only good because everyone else was so bad.

    It felt like everyone was reading off a cue card on one take with no previous knowledge of the situation or script. Nicholson, again, was light years ahead of his supporting cast. Couple this with One Flew Over The Cookoos Nest and it's obvious why he was loved by many and continues to be today.

    I do have to give Shelley Duvall credit for her scenes with fear. Hard to see that today and after feeling like grinding teeth as she acted like Ms. happy Wendy, I see why she was given this role.

    Anyway, it's not the acting that ruin this film; it's the lack of explanation that creates random occurences that hardly make any sense. The film was written for a reader of the novel that wanted to see a visual of their imagination. Unfortunately, they failed to please me because the movie doesn't touch the book's excellent story telling.

    I feel horrible for viewers that have only experienced the film: it doesn't make any sense and it leaves out crucial bits of information that were oddly enough still important pieces of the film's plot. How does that work?

    A few examples:

    1. There's no horror without fear, so lets make fear.

    There is history in all films - a background if you must. Some back story can help build character. Some build plot. The Shining needed back story to build plot. Yet, for easons unknown, it ignored the most important of backstories in Jack's life - that he was a violent alcoholic who lost his job as a teacher for physically beating a student and had seriously injured his son.

    Now, the injury is mentioned but it's explanation comes at a trivial time. Perhaps, you can say that plot was revealed in terrible order.

    We know that Danny was injured by Jack, but Danny shows no ill effects or fear as a result of the situation. For most of the early scenes, there is only happiness. That is until Danny wants to grab his fire truck which happens to be in the same room his dad is sleeping in.

    Danny recieves permission to get his toy and finds Jack sitting up in bed. Danny expresses a fear for his dad that has no basis since he had never expressed any fear prior. Jack also has done nothing up to this point so why would Danny suddenly fear his father? There is no explanation in the film because there is no explanation period.

    Well, actually there is a reason. The audience needs to know that Jack is beginning to lose his marbles. Sadly, we never see why. Jack just suddenly falls into an abyss of madness.

    2. Give me another one Lloyd.

    Sure, we realize that things are going a bit crazy and something is not right. So when Jack abuptly wanders into the ballroom bar, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Jack is met by a real life bar tender. What's really a surprise is Jack needing a drink in the first place.

    The film offers some backstory on Jack once drinking and dislocating his son's shoulder. Wendy even explains that he stopped drinking so she wouldn't leave him. Yet not once were we led to believe that Jack had the urge to binge with the likes of Dean Martin and Fred Astaire. He simply had no urges and never indicated a desire to knock back a bottle again.

    So when Jack suddenly hits the bar and utters the words: "I need a drink," it's purely plot driven drivel with no supporting explanation. This is a man that has commented on his committment to being sober (3 years in fact) and without a reason, an explanation, or pressure is driven to drink again? I don't buy it and Kubrick lost me.

    3. There's a party in my house and everyone's invited.

    In the book, there is actually a very deep back story that explains why the hotel has so many lively occupants and what their true intentions might be. Kubrick obviously thought none of that was important because a room full of strangers on a random night in a previously empty hotel is weird enough to make things interesting. That's poor writing.

    We are supposed to accept these newcomers without a hint as to who they are? Why? We know Jack has lost his marbles (the music tells me so) but that doesn't explain why there are 100 people dancing in a ballroom. And it's never explained. They are just there.

    Well, that's not entirely true. Jack is the house keeper. For as long as Grady can remember at least...or because a picture taken in 1921 says so.

    Why does this matter? It doesn't because there's no basis for Jack coming back to the hotel. He needs to kill because he returned to the place he had always been? This is going nowhere. It's added mystery to confuse the viewer, only there is no flipping to the back of the book to find out how Encyclopedia Brown always knew. The pages were ripped out or Kubrick decided they werent't important.

    4. Can you hear me?

    I couldn't and maybe that was the point. The Shining is only for those special someone's. We aren't supposed to know how it works. But wait, didn't Halloran speak to Danny through telekinisis and didn't we hear him do it? Why yes, yes we did.

    So why does Halloran lie in his bedroom (with two large pictures of naked blck woman...talk about odd set design. It's almost as if they weren't sure how to paint this guy) and widen his eyes while leaving us in mystery?

    Wait, why am I asking? We're the audience and we don't need to know.

    Of course, Grady (good ol' Grady. He's like the guy that jumps in during a story that someone is screwing up royally. "No, no dude, it was like this, remember?") spills the beans when he reveals that Danny is trying to include another party through communication.

    It just would have been nice to see that happening because you know the film is called The Shining so go figure they would include moments when a character, oh, I don't know...shines?

    5. Pull my finger. No, seriously, pull it.

    Tony is a kid that lives in Danny's mouth and he talks when Danny wiggles his little finger.

    This is what having The Shining gets you: a make believe friend so bad, you don't even give him a face.

    It would have been more effective ( not to mention that Kubrick's awesome quick cuts could have been used) if Tony was actually a little boy that Danny sees. Genius idea, right? If only someone thought of that.

    Oh, wait, you mean that Stephen King already did in the book that this film is based on? No. I can't believe it. A wiggling finger had to be the first and only idea. I'm positive that if someone stood up and said to Kubrick: "Shouldn't we cast a real kid to play Tony? I mean, we can even use the same kid," then Kubrick would have used it. I'm sure. 100% positive. No way you choose a wiggling finger over an actual kid. Not possible.

    This movie was garbage.
    Wow first time I heard someone say it was garbage, That movie was great also put spoiler tags up so u dont ruin this for others..
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    • SPTO
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3
      Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

      While it's not my favorite movie in the world, (I find most Kubrick movies to be overly long to be honest) I can see the contributions the film made to the art form. You are certainly the first person i've seen to totally trash the movie 100%.
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      • Bornindamecca
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        #4
        Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

        Ohhh, YP. Can't get with you on this one, ma man. Kubrick puts on a directing clinic in that movie. It's an experiential and sensory achievement, and a landmark in filmmaking. Not saying it's a perfect movie, but it's definitely an important one.
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        • Salhus
          He can talk the talk
          • Jan 2006
          • 1799

          #5
          Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

          Yeah, sorry, I pretty much disagree with almost every point. I thought the supporting actress, don't know her name, put on a great performance, too.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #6
            I really don't expect anyone to agree with me. The Shining is apparently a classic and it did a lot of things right.

            The focus on horror was tremendous. Without even showing much, I was scared. The music, quick cuts, tight shots, and hotel occupants really do their job.

            If you want to bring up experimental and its affect on future films, I'll give that too. The mix of wide vs. tight, the emphasis on particular colors, lighting, all of it impressive. Kubrick's direction of the overall look and feel were stellar.

            His writing was not and for me it takes more than pretty colors and great cinematography to capture my faith in a film. The plot was a mess. Things just happen to happen and we are either never told why or are told scenes after any of it is supposed to matter.

            Duvall was great when she first confronts Jack and his amazing book "All work and no play..."

            Prior to that she acted like Ms. Brady in the Brady Bunch films. She'd express excitement with unusual precision. She'd say hello, yell it out, as if she was waiting for a cue from Kubrick. She was the ultimate backwards actress: she mastered the hardest part (expressing realistic fear) and failed at being a normal person.

            The kid was incredibly monotone and dull. He was reading a script. Had to be. That or his lines were told to him just before shooting and he blurted them out without much emotion. I loved his face when he sees the two girls. Great expression of fear; but I could have done without him opening his mouth.

            Halloran was brutal. Brutal, brutal, brutal. No one talks that way. He was basically that weird guy everyone knows that seems to rehearse everything he would say in every situation to the point that it feels so unnatural a wooden stick with his face plastered on would have the same effect.

            Forget the other early characters. It seemed like Kubrick shot those scenes first to get them over with so he can dive into this experiment.

            It's a horrible film. It has redeeming qualities that would be used for film study, but it's everything you teach to avoid in plot development and directing actors. When every actor but Nicholson is horrid in being a person, it means the acting direction was terrible and Nicholson was amazing by his own gift.
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            • born_bad
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              • Jan 2005
              • 1130

              #7
              Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

              It's not a classic because of the plot. It's a classic because it has some of the most memorable horrifying scenes and visuals ever.

              You can read the book if you want to know more about the details (what movie ever includes all the details of the book?). The film delivers visuals that will stick with me much longer than the details in the book. The 2 little girls, Jack walking around with the axe (surprised you didn't mention it wasn't an axe in the book), the hedge maze, the famous scene of Jack bashing down the door (Here's Johnny!). One of my favorite and most memorable scenes is when it's clear Jack has gone past the point of no return and Wendy confronts him the baseball bat. "Wendy, I'm not going to hurt you. I'm just going bash your brains in! I'm going to bash them right the *** in." The overall look of the hotel, the score to the movie, the overall style and mood of the film. It's all incredible and I'm pretty shocked to hear someone go so far to call it "garbage."

              If you want a more literal translation of the book, they made a TV mini-series. Sure, it's more accurate, but also completely forgettable. The movie is something that has stuck with me since I saw it as a kid. Those 2 little girls scared the crap out of me!
              Last edited by born_bad; 06-23-2009, 08:05 AM.

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              • Ewing
                Banned
                • Mar 2009
                • 863

                #8
                Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                I like it for one reason and one reason only:

                Jack Nicholson going completely bat **** crazy.

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                • MC Fatigue
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                  • Feb 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                  Great?

                  What made you feel the need to post this, exactly?

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #10
                    Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                    What's your point, Timmay?

                    It's a movie and that happens to fall in the entertainment category. I offered a long statement expressing my displasure with the film which makes my post better than just saying: "it sucks."

                    Perhaps you prefer I follow suit and just post something about a star getting naked for a film or write a glowing review of The Shining? What makes this thread different from other movie threads?

                    So, again, what's the point you're trying to get at? It's a thread like all the others. No one forced you to read it.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                    • CMH
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                      #11
                      Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                      Originally posted by born_bad
                      It's not a classic because of the plot. It's a classic because it has some of the most memorable horrifying scenes and visuals ever.
                      I noticed. But I did say that all of those things don't make a movie good to me. So it's visually stunning and left you with memorable scenes that horrified you. Sorry, that doesn't cut it for me. If a movie were only about visuals then it would be a slide show.

                      You can read the book if you want to know more about the details (what movie ever includes all the details of the book?).
                      This is the issue, however. The movie includes no detail. It just jumps from scene to scene with no explanation. Sure, it doesn't have to have a full back story on every aspect, but it should explain some things. There is no explanation for Jack going mad. He just does. I find that unacceptable. All actions are driven by something and for Jack it's driven by nothing. He just slowly becomes mad.

                      He suddenly wants to drink because he just does? That's not a movie; that's a child making up a story.

                      There's no plot development. It's just random scenes and because the visuals are impressive, we're supposed to forget that none of it makes any sense?
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                      • JohnnytheSkin
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                        I've long preferred the TV miniseries over the Kubrick film.
                        Last edited by JohnnytheSkin; 06-23-2009, 10:23 AM.
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                        • born_bad
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                          • Jan 2005
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                          #13
                          Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                          I don't agree with your lack of info argument, though. Early on in the movie, when the doctor who checked out Danny after his "episode" is speaking with Wendy, Wendy explains that Jack used to drink and she explains how he "hurt Danny's arm." You can tell from the scene she's embarrassed, so you can pretty much figure out that Jack was a drunk and hurt Danny while drunk once. I thought that set it up pretty well and gives you the backstory, without slamming you over the head with it, or spending an hour on it. Knowing that, is it really that much of a stretch for you to believe that being shacked up in a crazy hotel, Jack would eventually want a drink?

                          As far as why he goes crazy in the movie, they make several references to "cabin fever." There's the whole scene, toward the beginning, where the hotel manager explains what happened with Grady, how he got cabin fever and killed his family. There's the isolation of being up there alone. Throw in a place that is haunted with its past and Jack with his own personal demons and I think they give you enough to work with. He also yells at Wendy about how he feels she's sabotaging his job and his "responsibilities" (and his future) by wanting to leave the hotel. Sure, it's not as detailed as the book, but again what movie is?

                          And it's not strictly the visuals; it's the combination of visuals and audio (the girls creepy British accents - "Come and play with us, Danny."), that make it have such impact. It delivers what it's trying to deliver, IMO, and is a classic that will be enjoyed for generations to come, I'm sure.
                          Last edited by born_bad; 06-23-2009, 10:20 AM.

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                          • CMH
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                            Yes, the doctor does hear out Wendy talk about Jack having once been a violent drunk.

                            The issue I have is that he doesn't ever appear to feel a need to return to that life. He just suddenly does. All of a sudden he's in the bar asking for a drink. There needs to be momentum before you throw something down like that.

                            The man hasn't had a drink, asked for a drink, or even thought about a drink the entire movie and then suddenly, he's begging for one and gets it? If they had followed the book and had him go into the bar and pretend to drink first, leave, then come back another day and go through the scene we watch in the film, I would have found it more believable. The way it was written, it just jumped in and basically said, "hey, so you know, Jack's been needing a drink. Sorry we didn't warn you of that."

                            The drink is vital to the plot. It's what pushes Jack over the edge and it just happened without any buildup or explanation. He has a past of drinking, sure. But, he hadn't shown that to the audience in an hour and a half of film. That's like me writing a plot of a guy who used to drive cars really fast, killed someone in an accident and vowed to never do it again. Then suddenly, for no reason at all, an hour into the film, he drives a car really fast.

                            Now, if I precluded that with scenes of him in his car, looking at people driving by, looking at the accelerator, tight on his feet on the gas - oh man, you're getting the point here. Jack wants to drive fast, but he won't. He can't. It's wrong because he's scared he'll hurt someone again. Then 30 minutes later, after a few agitating moments, he jumps behind a car, sees someone drive past, and just lets it rip. Now, we're getting somewhere. Now I get it. The man is a fast driver. It's what he is. He can't help it.

                            Jack in The Shining is just a drinker. Big whoop. It killed an important scene that would have given his actions some meaning.

                            And yes, I get the cabin fever aspect of his issue. But, again, they basically threw a two worded description at you and expected you to just accept that it's reality for Jack. No. I don't buy it. I can buy him going crazy if its' cabin fever, but I don't buy it happening all of a sudden for no good reason. The guy is happy happy and suddenly he wakes up from his bed and is crazy? And it's because of cabin fever? He got cabin fever in a matter of hours?

                            And Danny is scared of him when he goes for his fire truck because...? Oh, the cabin fever. Maybe Jack has been acting a bit weird lately. Yet, the film never shows him acting weird so why the heck is Danny afraid of him?

                            Oh because he hurt Danny's shoulder when he was little. I got it. So then why wasn't Danny afraid of him before? He seemed to be getting along with his dad just fine. Instead, the writing just smacked us in the face. It said: Hey, he hurt him and Danny is scared. So what he never showed fear before. This is supposed to be a scary moment in the film so there, deal with it. He's scared."

                            Nope. Don't buy it. You can't just say you're supposed to be scared because it's a scary moment and just ignore past actions.
                            Last edited by CMH; 06-23-2009, 10:51 AM.
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                            • CMH
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                              #15
                              Re: The Shining (film). Horrible.

                              Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
                              I've long preferred the TV miniseries over the Kubrick film.
                              Honestly, I didn't like either.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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