Michael Jackson has passed away

[CMH]

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It isn't about MJ being your biggest entertainer of all-time. There are people that don't like him.

It's about him being the biggest entertainer for the majority of people. There are more MJ hardcore fans than for any other music artist in the world. That's why this is getting the coverage it's getting.

You may not like that it's getting a lot of coverage, but everyone that hates it, everyone that continues to label him a pedophile (despite him only settling and begin acquitted), everyone that says he was weird (I seriously want to know what was really messed up and weird about him that other people don't do? I'll give you that he acted like a kid, but if you say that then you can't pull the pedophile card because it just doesn't make sense...anyway, I don't get into those arguments), all those people are in the minority.

For once, the people that are not happy about the coverage are actually in the minority here. That's why Michael Jackson was an icon.

[CeltBhoy33]

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Not Project X. X.

1) You're mind is like a one-track tape, man. Think outside of hardcore for a couple seconds, there's a lot more to the world of music than that and whether you want to believe it or not, MJ was a big (and during his reign of the 80s and early 90s, the biggest) part of that world. As for "throwing down" dancing, check out the end of the extended Black or White music video, the man definitely got a little violent which speaks a lot for his convictions and passion for not only that song but its message as MJ was a shy and very soft-spoken man.

2) As I said before, Minor Threat would probably be able to acknowledge MJ's impact and influence on the industry whether it directly or indirectly influenced them or not. Just because a person/band doesn't have the same style or approach, doesn't mean they aren't influenced by those outside of their genre.

for 1) throwing down isn't just running in to people it isn't that goth crap. It is violent by the way your arms swing and if you are standing on the edges that person is getting punched in the face if you walk in the middle you are getting punched in the face. So I doubt MJ had in influence on that.

for 2) You're right they would say that he influenced the music industry but did Minor Threat try to sell out and get rich? No, they kept to the underground preaching straight edge drug free alcohol free and tobacco free. I doubt MJ ever did that and if he did it was probably becuase his psychotic mind of his was one of a 5 year old girls.

[CMH]

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That's a new one. MJ was a psychotic 5 year old girl. I'm interested now.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I guess some people just fail to acknowledge and respect things that are beyond their tastes.

[CeltBhoy33]

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I guess some people just fail to acknowledge and respect things that are beyond their tastes.

It's beyond my tastes your right. He has never influenced me or in my life. I find it funny people will be dogging on Michael jackson. Examples watching the south park episode where they make fun of MJ but the whole world stops for them when the pedophile man dies.

[CMH]

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I guess some people just fail to acknowledge and respect things that are beyond their tastes.

I blame the media for overhyping MJ's weirdness.

The guy was a collector and they ran away with it making him seem weird for wanting a collection of weird things.

He was shy so he wore glasses, stayed hidden when possible, and because he wasn't always out in the open like other celebs, the media needed to make him seem weird for not being out there.

He loved his fans and wanted to show them his baby, so all of a sudden he's a bad father because he extended the child over the balcony. Yea, not the brightest idea in the world, but bigger news than it needed to be.

Two kids accuse him of being a pedophile, yet no other kids ever said a thing; MJ was never convicted; and his personality doesn't even fit the profile of a pedophile. What child would want to touch other children? It doesn't make sense, but because the media talks about it, people just believe it.

A misunderstood man that couldn't have a normal life, so he wrote music (and yea, he wrote music. I've seen people call him a talentless hack that didn't write or play his own music. MJ wrote a lot of his music and also arranged a lot of his music) as an escape to express his feelings.

You don't have to like the guy, but to act like he wasn't a huge icon, that he didn't have a huge affect on music, I mean, just look at the number of musicians today that are affected by his death. The number of athletes affected. He gets that kind of love because so many people respected him. This isn't just some guy that died. This guy had a huge affect on a large population of the world. The world. Not just the US. The world.

But whatever, I'm done. You can't change people's minds when they're set on one thing.

[CeltBhoy33]

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I blame the media for overhyping MJ's weirdness.



Two kids accuse him of being a pedophile, yet no other kids ever said a thing;

LOL yeah only two kids did it not a big deal. I'm pretty sure if a normal person was accused that would be a pretty big deal. Pedophiles need there heads bashed in.

[mgoblue]

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You don't have to like the guy, but to act like he wasn't a huge icon, that he didn't have a huge affect on music, I mean, just look at the number of musicians today that are affected by his death. The number of athletes affected. He gets that kind of love because so many people respected him. This isn't just some guy that died. This guy had a huge affect on a large population of the world. The world. Not just the US. The world.

But whatever, I'm done. You can't change people's minds when they're set on one thing.

I agree with you here...Though I'll never really get how people seemingly have so much invested in MJ. My idols/people I look up to are parents, family, etc. I don't think I'll ever go into serious mourning, crying for days, etc for a celebrity ever, but that's just me.

Also, it is kinda f'ed up when an adult is sleeping in the same bed with older kids, I dunno. People say "misunderstood", but I'm not sure that's really understandable to 99% of people...but that's neither here nor there, he definitely had a world impact. I just don't (and probably won't) understand people relying that much on a very odd celeb.

[Brankles]

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Though I'll never really get how people seemingly have so much invested in MJ. My idols/people I look up to are parents, family, etc. I don't think I'll ever go into serious mourning, crying for days, etc for a celebrity ever, but that's just me.

I'm the same way. I had all the role models I needed around me growing up where I didn't need to reach out to media stars for that fulfillment. I can definitely see where people can become attached to a star, though.

[ZB9]

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LOL yeah only two kids did it not a big deal. I'm pretty sure if a normal person was accused that would be a pretty big deal. Pedophiles need there heads bashed in.

again with the pedophile accusation. Being accused of something does not necessarily equal being guilty if the person was found innocent

Jackson was an easy target b/c of his huge pocketbook and strange lifestyle. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I just prefer to base mine objectively and not act like I live in Salem in the late 1600's and burn a person for being a witch b/c people simply said they were.

[ZB9]

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I would have to say Minor Threat because they for one opened the doors for hardcore, or Johnny Cash.

Michael Jackson I am sure made good music but I hate it. Not my taste.

I agree with this guy on the MJ death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz03nQrFLAk

I respect Minor Threat and that scene, and Im a MUCH bigger Johnny Cash fan than Michael Jackson fan...but I would not deny that Jackson is the biggest solo artist since Elvis. The influence he had on the entire music industry affected every genre, either directly or indirectly. You dont have to like MJ's music to acknowledge that.

[Po Pimp]

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I agree with you here...Though I'll never really get how people seemingly have so much invested in MJ. My idols/people I look up to are parents, family, etc. I don't think I'll ever go into serious mourning, crying for days, etc for a celebrity ever, but that's just me.

Also, it is kinda f'ed up when an adult is sleeping in the same bed with older kids, I dunno. People say "misunderstood", but I'm not sure that's really understandable to 99% of people...but that's neither here nor there, he definitely had a world impact. I just don't (and probably won't) understand people relying that much on a very odd celeb.

I don't think people are reaching out to celebrities for answers. It could simply be a "damn, this guy I remember seeing forever is dead...I'm getting old" or "I really enjoyed so and so's work, and it sucks they'll never get to produce anything again."

I don't see anything strange about people mourning a celeb's passing. I feel bad when anyone dies really. I recall attending the wake of a co-worker who's husband had died. I wasn't close with her at all, but it was still sad to be there. I've attended funerals of family members I never really knew, and still felt sad. I've been a fan of Michael Jackson all my life (I'm 27). Am I supposed to feel nothing for him just because I didn't know him personally?

I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling that way, cause there are some celebs who have passed and my only reaction was "damn, thats messed up." I either wasn't fans of their work or unfamiliar with it altogether though.

[CMH]

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LOL yeah only two kids did it not a big deal. I'm pretty sure if a normal person was accused that would be a pretty big deal. Pedophiles need there heads bashed in.

It would be a big deal if the person was found guilty of doing it. I could scream out right now that you slept with my younger cousin and take you to court.

Does that make you a pedophile?

[Brandwin]

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I guess some people just fail to acknowledge and respect things that are beyond their tastes.

You don't have to like the guy, but to act like he wasn't a huge icon, that he didn't have a huge affect on music, I mean, just look at the number of musicians today that are affected by his death. The number of athletes affected. He gets that kind of love because so many people respected him. This isn't just some guy that died. This guy had a huge affect on a large population of the world. The world. Not just the US. The world.

But whatever, I'm done. You can't change people's minds when they're set on one thing.

Pretty much. Even if I wasn't a fan of his music, I could at least acknowledge his impact.

[CeltBhoy33]

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It would be a big deal if the person was found guilty of doing it. I could scream out right now that you slept with my younger cousin and take you to court.

Does that make you a pedophile?

I'd put my two cents on that. But some dude infracted me for amendment number one.