We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

[rockchisler]

Every time I listen to it, it sounds like a rap song, It was not their intention but doesn't it sound like Mercury is spittin over the Mic??? If so does this make it the first rap song? Not counting The Last Poets.

[SPTO]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

The first rap song...That's interesting

IMO the first rap song at least musically was a Marvin Gaye tune from the Trouble Man LP. Listen to the song "T Plays it Cool" and you'll find that the sound while obviously jazz does have some thematic links to the sound of modern hip hop.

Also Marvin spits out some rap during the song "Trouble Man" as well.

[rockchisler]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

The first rap song...That's interesting

IMO the first rap song at least musically was a Marvin Gaye tune from the Trouble Man LP. Listen to the song "T Plays it Cool" and you'll find that the sound while obviously jazz does have some thematic links to the sound of modern hip hop.

Also Marvin spits out some rap during the song "Trouble Man" as well.

Im talking about Lyrics, not beat

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Rhyming words?

[savoie2006]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Every time I listen to it, it sounds like a rap song, It was not their intention but doesn't it sound like Mercury is spittin over the Mic??? If so does this make it the first rap song? Not counting The Last Poets.

No, sorry.

[SPTO]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Im talking about Lyrics, not beat

Which is why I also mentioned "Trouble Man"

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Go to 2:11 and listen til 2:30 and you'll see what I mean.

Keep in mind this song was released in 1972!

[daflyboys]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Can't agree. The Marvin Gaye song is definitely a better argument. (Hate all Queen stuff anyway).

Actually, rap might have it's roots moreso in songs like this (@ 1:02)

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and this from Leon Russell (@2:42)

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[RAZRr1275]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

I'd say The Revolution Will Not Be Televised by Gil-Scott Heron would be one of the first. It was released in 1971. If you aren't counting poetry then DJ Kool Herc was more close to rap today also in the 70's. As far as the first extremely popular song closest to rap I'd go with Aerosmith's Walk This Way in 1975.

[rockchisler]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Can't agree. The Marvin Gaye song is definitely a better argument. (Hate all Queen stuff anyway).

Actually, rap might have it's roots moreso in songs like this (@ 1:02)

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and this from Leon Russell (@2:42)

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Cadence, tempo and pace, Queen sounds more like rapping then these videos

[goh]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

I'd say lyrics wise Stone Cold Crazy is closer to rap than We Will Rock You and it came out before that. Though it's often credited with being the first thrash metal song too. Queen had range.

[Stumbleweed]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Good call on Gil Scott-Heron, though I'd put him more in the spoken word category with things like "No Knock" as well as "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". That's a great album too. Definitely more "rap" than anything else mentioned here -- spoken word wasn't much of a genre back then unless it was people actually reading poetry a la Ginsberg.

"Whitey on the Moon" always makes me laugh even though it's a pretty heavy sentiment.

[SPTO]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Can't agree. The Marvin Gaye song is definitely a better argument. (Hate all Queen stuff anyway).

Actually, rap might have it's roots moreso in songs like this (@ 1:02)

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I'm sorry but rap can't have roots from a bunch of geeky white blue eyed soul guys.

I'm not too familiar with Gil Scot Heron but I'll take your word for it guys. I'll have to definitely look into more of his music (i've heard some and it's quite good)

[Stumbleweed]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

Hahaha yeah, agreed on the white dudes.

Rap's roots are in blues and jazz really, but Gil Scott-Heron is one of the best more modern examples where you listen to it and think "rap". Blues is more structure/rhyming/rhythm similarities while jazz (primarily vocal jazz) has a long history of spoken or sing-songy rhyming over music, including scat, which was probably the precursor to beatboxing/vocal exhibitions a la Scratch from the Roots.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: We will rock you Queen, Sounds like Rap

I'm sorry but rap can't have roots from a bunch of geeky white blue eyed soul guys.

I'm not too familiar with Gil Scot Heron but I'll take your word for it guys. I'll have to definitely look into more of his music (i've heard some and it's quite good)

And also the Gladiolas did that song first anyway. That was a cover. Here's the real song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJdqsQR2fc4