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  • bigfnjoe96
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
    • 11410

    #16
    Re: ESPN....3D

    You will not need a 3-D Ready TV. What you will need is a TV that is HDMI 1.3 Capable & a device that has the ability to have it's firmware upgraded..

    Fans of 3D movies can rest easy. You probably won’t need to upgrade your Blu-ray player, and you almost certainly won’t need to pick up new cables. Remember back when the 3D specification for Blu-ray was announced and somehow the Playstation 3 made the list of compatible devices? It was said that a firmware update would make the popular Blu-ray playing game console compatible, and that’s true. It’s not just the PS3 though, that update will also apply to any BD-Live capable Blu-ray player.



    <table align="right"><tbody><tr><td>
    </td></tr></tbody></table> In fact, any device that has a method for updating the firmware can be kicked up to support the new format. Cable set-top boxes and satellite receivers included. Like most things though, the 3D update for already existing HDMI 1.3 products comes with a catch, and it’s a catch in the form of reduced video quality. While HDMI 1.4 cables and devices will be capable of shooting out 3D pictures in full 1080p, HDMI 1.3 just can’t handle it.



    The problem is that for a 3D picture, two images have to be shown nearly simultaneously. Since HDMI 1.3 can’t handle two 1080p pictures at that speed, you’ll get two 1080i pictures. It’s not a huge downgrade when all is said and done. The real clincher comes with TV signals.



    Since cable boxes normally show a 1080i image, they’ll be stepped down to 540i to handle 3D. With HDMI 1.3 cable boxes, you’ll have the choice between HD and 3D, but not both.
    http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002

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    • p_rushing
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 14514

      #17
      Re: ESPN....3D

      Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
      DirecTV is already on board with 3D.

      http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._in_March/3992
      good news, but at the moment, no one has a 3D channel to broadcast and no one has signed on to carry ESPN3D

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      • Seymour Scagnetti
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 2489

        #18
        Re: ESPN....3D

        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
        You will not need a 3-D Ready TV. What you will need is a TV that is HDMI 1.3 Capable & a device that has the ability to have it's firmware upgraded..

        http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002
        So we get an HD signal and a barely above standard def 3d signal that are mutually exclusive. Kinda like eating your nose to spite your face.

        I can already envision them being the runaway winner of the CNET list of all time failed tech gimmicks in about 3 years time.

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        • bkfount
          All Star
          • Oct 2004
          • 8467

          #19
          Re: ESPN....3D

          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
          You will not need a 3-D Ready TV. What you will need is a TV that is HDMI 1.3 Capable & a device that has the ability to have it's firmware upgraded..

          http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002
          Yes, you will need a 3d ready tv. The actual source of your linked article even states this clearly. It was specifically talking about what the HDMI 1.3 bluray devices and cable boxes are going to be able to do, even with an upgrade. It's already established that people will need 3D TV's for this, but the bluray and HDMI specs were still unclear.


          The HDMI Licensing group has solved at least the Blu-ray side of the 3D problem. All devices with HDMI 1.3 and an upgrade connection method — Blu-ray Live decks (including PS3), satellite receivers and cable set-top boxes — can be upgraded to output 3D.

          Unfortunately, you'll still need a new HDMI 1.4-enabled 3D HDTV to see the 3D effect. It's necessary because those HDTVs have dual-scanning capabilities: They can display near-simultaneous frames, one for each eye, to create the 3D illusion. Current HDTVs are only single-scan.
          Last edited by bkfount; 01-06-2010, 02:25 AM.

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          • bkfount
            All Star
            • Oct 2004
            • 8467

            #20
            Re: ESPN....3D

            Originally posted by dickey1331
            Especially if the 3D TVs are $25k. There is no way I am going to buy a TV more then $1k. Its a TV not a car lol
            3DTV's won't be $25k. Some sites suggest the ones coming out this year will be a few hundred more than similar sized non 3d HDTV's out, like around $1,300.

            The $25k price was what Phillips mentioned for their autostereoscopic tv with 2160p resolution, which is years away from being in homes.



            Philips unveiled their 56-inch 3D display yesterday that packs a Quad Full HD resolution (3840x2160). Wired says the autostereoscopic display requires no glasses and is able to support such a high resolution because of its high data throughput rates. Those high rates also allow for a 3D effect that is high contrast, silky smooth and has a viewing angle of 160 degrees. Early word is that these displays will cost upwards of $25000, and will mostly exist in the commercial space.

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            • Miles_Yuhas
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2689

              #21
              Re: ESPN....3D

              Personally I can't wait for the new 3D displays with a 2160p resolution that will hopefully work without glasses when they become commonplace, and a much lower price obviously. Until then, it doesn't seem like this will have a huge impact and doesn't make sense to upgrade to a TV now with these TV's only a few years away.

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              • Maize08
                MVP
                • Nov 2008
                • 1917

                #22
                Re: ESPN....3D

                Originally posted by Miles_Yuhas
                Personally I can't wait for the new 3D displays with a 2160p resolution that will hopefully work without glasses when they become commonplace, and a much lower price obviously. Until then, it doesn't seem like this will have a huge impact and doesn't make sense to upgrade to a TV now with these TV's only a few years away.
                Sony predicts that 50% of all the TVs it sells by 2012 will be 3D capable. So it will happen soon enough. I am not sure who will get to watch ESPN 3D. Are the glasses and an HDTV good enough? I know the effect won't be as good, but, will it still work?

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #23
                  Re: ESPN....3D

                  Originally posted by Maize08
                  Sony predicts that 50% of all the TVs it sells by 2012 will be 3D capable.
                  I don't think the changeover will happen as quick as you make it sound. Look how long the US has taken to fully adopt the Digital format whereas in other countries (especially Canada) most homes are digital capable.

                  People don't usually rush out to buy TVs on a whim. In fact, for the most part people tend to stick with a TV for nearly 10 years or more especially older folks. I think the 3D format won't be fully embraced until the latter part of the decade.
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                  • bkfount
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 8467

                    #24
                    Re: ESPN....3D

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    I don't think the changeover will happen as quick as you make it sound. Look how long the US has taken to fully adopt the Digital format whereas in other countries (especially Canada) most homes are digital capable.

                    People don't usually rush out to buy TVs on a whim. In fact, for the most part people tend to stick with a TV for nearly 10 years or more especially older folks. I think the 3D format won't be fully embraced until the latter part of the decade.
                    3D displays will just piggy back on the current HDTV penetration rate. It'll just become a common feature on any HDTV, just as 1080p is pretty much a standard feature for HDTV's now. Within 5 years you won't be able to even buy a TV that doesn't support 3D. Millions of people will continue to buy HDTV's each year, so 3D capable displays will basically expand as HDTV penetration continues to do so.

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