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  • Watson
    Burrow Club
    • Jul 2008
    • 27013

    #16
    Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

    It worked for Batman...
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    • bkfount
      All Star
      • Oct 2004
      • 8467

      #17
      Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

      Originally posted by WatsonTiger
      It worked for Batman...
      Batman isn't Spiderman. Batman works well as a dark movie, and the reboot was even needed after giving the public many years to forget about George Clooney and Batman & Robin.

      Spiderman was fine, but lost its way. It was popular only a few years ago, and Sony probably focused too much on making money from it. How's that gonna change much now? Raimi's out because he didn't want to do a script that is rumored to suck ***, and have it done by next year. So now they throw it back in high school, how edgy!
      Last edited by bkfount; 01-11-2010, 10:04 PM.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42510

        #18
        Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

        Originally posted by SPTO
        Someone mentioned Christopher Nolan and I would be 100% against the idea. Nolan seems to be a guy who excels at ultra realistic and dark films. Spidey by nature is not a dark character. You need to have a director who has a flair for the dramatic but can inject humor in tone/style.
        It was really just a joke, but what I meant by it was getting as much realism/darkness out of the guy as possible, while still getting some solidity within the original Spider-Man. I just absolutely love what he did with Batman is all, and I expect he can really adapt any original piece into gold.

        But again, all in good fun. I just don't want to see Raimi re-hash his idea of Spider-Man again.
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        • Misfit
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 5766

          #19
          Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

          Originally posted by bkfount
          Batman isn't Spiderman. Batman works well as a dark movie, and the reboot was even needed after giving the public many years to forget about George Clooney and Batman & Robin.

          Spiderman was fine, but lost its way. It was popular only a few years ago, and Sony probably focused too much on making money from it. How's that gonna change much now? Raimi's out because he didn't want to do a script that is rumored to suck ***, and have it done by next year. So now they throw it back in high school, how edgy!
          The fans share some of the blame in the downfall of the Spider-man franchise. Sure no fan gets final say on anything, but ever since the first film was announced messageboards are screaming for Venom, to the point where Sony forced the character into the third film and failed horribly. And this is coming from someone who grew up with Venom as his favorite comic book character.

          I'm fine with a "re-boot," though I hate the term. I should say, I'm fine with it so long as its done properly. I, and no one else, needs another super hero origin movie. We all know how Spider-man came to be, if necessary toss in a flash-back or something, but this movie needs to kick off with Spidey as Spidey. I like the high school setting because its been proven to work really well through Ultimate Spider-man and the Spectacular Spider-man show. And I hope whoever is writing it ditches this awful trend with superhero movies where each film needs a new villain. Don't kill off the villains! Nolan had the right idea with The Dark Knight, unfortunately Heath Ledger's passing derailed that and I think that's what has so far caused a lot of the apprehension on Nolan's part to return to the franchise.

          If it were up to me to draft a screenplay for a new Spider-man (and good thing it isn't, I'd probably do a terrible job) I would try to create multiple angles of conflict for the two protagonists, Peter Parker and Spider-man. I think Kingpin is a good villain, because he presents a monumental challenge for a "kid" like Spider-man. A love interest is an almost necessity (I'd opp for Gwen) and throw in Black Cat for Spider-man just to give Peter some confused emotions. Above all, seeds need to be planted to build upon if Sony wants to create another franchise. Don't give us everything on one film. Have Peter fall for Gwen, but pull back on the pay-off for another film. That way it has more impact, and then Venom or someone can kill her in the third! And speaking of Venom, he should resurface but done right, with Eddie Brock being introduced in the first film so we can watch his hate build. And might as well do things differently and not have Parker ever wear the black suit, otherwise audiences will feel like they've seen it before (which we have, in the comics, the ultimate comics, the 90's cartoon, the 00's cartoon, and the films).

          In some ways it seems simple, but really this is going to be a tall task. Sony needs to get the right people involved to make a really good movie. Yes sequels need to be considered from the get-go, but not at the expense of the first film. We need a complete and enriching story as I think a new Spider-man will be a tough sell for a lot of the general audience that made the first three such monster financial success stories. And by following up a recently done trilogy, Sony can't just rest its laurels on the tried and true Spidey stories, they're going to have to dig deeper into the comics or (and here's a novel concept) come up with fresh ideas on their own.

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          • Watson
            Burrow Club
            • Jul 2008
            • 27013

            #20
            Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

            IMO we need a Deadpool movie before we need a Spiderman movie.
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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #21
              Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

              Originally posted by Blzer
              Christopher Nolan should jump on board as director.
              No, his fight scenes are horrible.

              I just hope that JK Simmons is brought back, he was the perfect J. Jonah Jameson.
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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42510

                #22
                Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                Originally posted by jmood88
                No, his fight scenes are horrible.
                This is true.

                I just hope that JK Simmons is brought back, he was the perfect J. Jonah Jameson.
                I agree.
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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #23
                  Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                  Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                  IMO we need a Deadpool movie before we need a Spiderman movie.
                  No we don't. Spiderman is a much better character.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • Misfit
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5766

                    #24
                    Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                    I believe Fox has the rights for Deadpool, so a new Spider-man movie won't affect any plans for a Deadpool film. Ryan Reynolds playing the Green Lantern might though.

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                    • Watson
                      Burrow Club
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27013

                      #25
                      Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                      Originally posted by jmood88
                      No we don't. Spiderman is a much better character.
                      But so played out.
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                      @AdamdotH

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                      • Seymour Scagnetti
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2489

                        #26
                        Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                        Well I distinctly remember James Cameron on Howard Stern just after Titanic came out and he clearly stated that he wanted to do a Spiderman movie and cast Dicaprio as Spidey. This was before the whole comic movie craze and Dicaprio was still considered a hearththrob actor then so Stern scoffed at the idea of casting him as Spidey.

                        Obviously Leo is not a consideration now because he's too old but Cameron stated how much he liked the Spidey character and how much he wanted to do it. I know there was some discussion back then and Cameron decided against it because of studio politics but I think Cameron is due to make a kick *** action movie (Avatar does not qualify sorry) and Spidey would probably be perfect for him.

                        Maybe Sony was so quick to dump Raimi because Cameron showed some interest in a reboot. You never know because this is weird news since it seemed pretty certain that Spiderman 4 was ready to start filming.

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                        • DickDalewood

                          #27
                          Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                          Originally posted by Scottdau
                          Spiderman is cut not ripped. The comic one was 5'10'' 160. I think Tobey fit that mode pretty good.
                          If you look at the drawings, he was small yes, but still built. Toby looked like he went to Curves for Women to get his shape.

                          Plus, he's just such a wiener, lol.

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                          • spankdatazz22
                            All Star
                            • May 2003
                            • 6219

                            #28
                            Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                            Is this site credible? Just wondering; it seems kinda early for a series reboot. Spiderman 3 was a big disappointment but don't think it was anywhere near a horror on the level of a Batman and Robin was, for example (which brought about Batman's reboot). And I think it was financially successful. Quality-wise it was sort of like XMen 3 to me, maybe a notch above: a bad movie that leaves the series in a sort of limbo state, but maybe not quite bad enough to demand a series restart. I always thought Jake Gyllenhyall (sp) would've made a great Peter Parker/Spiderman in terms of physicality and having that goofy nerd persona (looks the part in Prince of Persia). Not sure of any other top flight stars fit the mold. I thought they were looking at giving Sam Raimi and the current cast another crack at it
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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42510

                              #29
                              Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                              As long as they don't get Shia Labeouf or Justin Long, I think we have a chance at a good contending Peter Parker.

                              They should maybe look into James Lafferty or totally de-aging and geeking up Colin Farrell.
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                              • jmood88
                                Sean Payton: Retribution
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 34639

                                #30
                                Re: Spider-Man reboot in 2012

                                Michael Cera lol
                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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