*** Big Brother: Season 12 ***

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

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I'm not sure that Big Brother entirely showed the whole story of what happened. I think there is a big uneasy feeling about Matt in the house right now aside from the Brigade.

I actually think Rachel is the strongest player in the game right now. Aside from maybe Enzo, Lane, and Britney...I'm not sure anyone would put her up this week.

Excited to see who wins HOH...kind of pulling for Hayden but I'm not sure why. Or Kathy just to see what she would do. And I reallyyy want to find out who the 2 HGs that have been long time friends are, though I think it's Kathy/Britney

[The Gravy Train]

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Everyone seems to be banking on Kathy/Britney being the combo, but how about Brendan and Andrew? Remember when Rachel won HOH, Andrew jumped for joy. And when Rachel wanted to replace Britney with Rachel, Brendan convinced her it was a bad idea, and I believe they got into a little argument.

Probably not the case, just another idea.

[Trevytrev11]

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Rachel definitely didn't think out her move to call out Matt very well and I'm not sure what she thought was going to happen and what she expected Matt to do. I imagine most people would have played it as he did, whether it was his idea or not, and "acted" as if he was put up as a pawn and was upset about it (I even thought he explained this to Rachel after she agreed to it).

Usually when these deals are made in secrecy the players then act as such and therefore act as if they were deceived, to fool the house, even when they were not at all deceived...otherwise just make the deal in public.

What did Rachel think he was going to do, parade around the house and tell everyone that he convinced the HOH to play his game?

If she had kept her mouth shut, things would have played out perfectly, and they still might since they have currently avoided the block, but now they will be watching matt for a few weeks.

And good riddance to Monet...she played no game what so ever and did nothing but just mumble crap about others to her one friend. Did you really come on the show to to absolutely nothing but talk crap about others? And then get upset when the one person you can't stand beat you because you did absolutely nothing to help your self.

Matt is a bit annoying due to his cockyness and I think he will end up biting off more than he can chew, but so far, the kid is in control of most stuff. He looks like he could have been on that surf board for another couple hours....he gets called out after being caught playing everyone and turns it around on the Rachel...and now he even has the doctor appologizing for having doubts about his wifes made-up disease...right now he has everything going for him.

[jake44np]

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One question.
Why didnt everyone stand on the board the same way Matt and the gay guy did?
It was working the best yet Brandon and the other guys while they where struggling to stay on their boards never changed positions.??

[ExtremeGamer]

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One question.
Why didnt everyone stand on the board the same way Matt and the gay guy did?
It was working the best yet Brandon and the other guys while they where struggling to stay on their boards never changed positions.??

My wife and I were saying that the entire time. Matt could have probably stayed up there for hours and hours, at least until his legs got too tired with how he was standing. Brendan and Meow Meow were both trying to actually surf it looked like.

[Trevytrev11]

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One question.
Why didnt everyone stand on the board the same way Matt and the gay guy did?
It was working the best yet Brandon and the other guys while they where struggling to stay on their boards never changed positions.??

The guys a genious!

The only thing I could think of was the fact that some of the other dudes might have had larger feet and when the board went deep into the wall, they might not have been able to maintain balance and traction the way the two smaller guys as well as I think Britney did.

[p_rushing]

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Matt was talking about on after dark show. The opening lined up to the back of his knees, so he was able to actually bend his knee and stick his foot into the hole. The taller and bigger guys weren't able to do that and with the angle of the board, they couldn't keep their balance.

[bill2451]

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man, I would have loved it this week if Matt pulled a true genius move and put ONE of them up

that not only gives you a great chance to get one of them out (less than putting them both up, which is 100%, and more than not putting either up), but the real genius of it is that it would have been an awesome mind game... I mean, imagine if they only put Brendan up, then he wins the POV. That would mean Brendan would essentially be eliminating Rachel

oh man it would be **** watching him struggle w/ taking himself off the block knowing it would send Rachel home... on top of that, if he did win I'd tell him straight up that Rachel was going up in his place, just to let it sink in all week

we all saw him crumble when he made whats her name cry... I can only imagine what this would do

You put Brenden up and the only way you dont get one of them out is if Rachel is first chosen to compete in the POV, and then wins it... neither of them wins, you take the "pawn" off the block and they're both up, Brendan wins and Rachel ends up on the block

I like those odds!

[jeremym480]

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man, I would have loved it this week if Matt pulled a true genius move and put ONE of them up

that not only gives you a great chance to get one of them out (less than putting them both up, which is 100%, and more than not putting either up), but the real genius of it is that it would have been an awesome mind game... I mean, imagine if they only put Brendan up, then he wins the POV. That would mean Brendan would essentially be eliminating Rachel

oh man it would be **** watching him struggle w/ taking himself off the block knowing it would send Rachel home... on top of that, if he did win I'd tell him straight up that Rachel was going up in his place, just to let it sink in all week

we all saw him crumble when he made whats her name cry... I can only imagine what this would do

You put Brenden up and the only way you dont get one of them out is if Rachel is first chosen to compete in the POV, and then wins it... neither of them wins, you take the "pawn" off the block and they're both up, Brendan wins and Rachel ends up on the block

I like those odds!

Thats what a real genius would have done. However, Matt's move this week wasn't to smart, IMO. His nomination's were terrible plus he made a new enemy in the process. That's not the thing to do especially, this early in the game. I'm hoping that Kathy goes hope because Andrew is easily my favorite player at this point.

[bill2451]

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eh, I can't see how Andrew is going to stay. Even ignoring the fact that he is closer to Brendan than the Brigade, he is so much stronger a competitor than Kathy that he should be gone regardless... if they were both pure floaters, it would still make no sense for anyone to keep Andrew

as it stands, if Andrew doesn't go home it would take a miracle... he would have to do the impossible and really convince ppl that he's not w/ Brendan and could help them get him out, and I think thats too big a hole to climb out of at this point

if he does survive, he immediately jumps up a ton in credibility in regards to gameplay in my book... but I honestly think he would have been better served not making that speech, and instead just talking to ppl later this week and pushing his agenda to eliminate Brendan. Play it off like he's managed to stay on Brendan's good side but plans on working w/ the rest of the house to backdoor him. When in reality its the Brigade side of the house he's double crossing... I think the way him and Brendan ended up playing it is pretty obvious and wont work. Which is a shame, because Kathy is just a waste of a spot in the house (which is exactly why they'll keep her)

[p_rushing]

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Matt did that for himself. He did so Brendon and Rachel aren't targeting him. Then if they didn't win the POV he would have put them up because the "house" wanted it. He would have claimed to keep himself clean.

It may have back fired though. The brigade is questioning him and everyone else is pissed at him.

[ExtremeGamer]

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At this point, Matt is one of the worst players in the house and will end up hurting himself in the long run.

I see no way Andrew stays. His speech last night was terrible. "I'm coming after you guys, now give me the veto" LOL No one is going to believe that.

I still don't know what Andrew was even remotely thinking. He even put his hand in the glass of eyeballs, and somehow counted 33? I could tell more than that through the TV.

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

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yea, like I said a week ago or something, Matt is "playing the game" too much. It was only a matter of time before he ticked everyone off.

[Trevytrev11]

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I see no way Andrew stays. His speech last night was terrible. "I'm coming after you guys, now give me the veto" LOL No one is going to believe that.

I still don't know what Andrew was even remotely thinking. He even put his hand in the glass of eyeballs, and somehow counted 33? I could tell more than that through the TV.

He would have been better off telling Brenden that he didn't expect him to take him off as it would risk putting his "pretty little girlfriend on the bock and breaking up the strongest aliance in the house, which hs something I hope to do if I'm around next week"

I think if he had said something in that manner he might have been able to garner some support from the other members. As Matt said, it was just too obvious.

I see the votes going:

Evict Andrew (Keep Kathy): Enzo, Lane, Hayden, Kristen, Britney
Evict Kathy (Keep Andrew): Brenden, Rachel
Fence: Ragan (though I think he's close with Matt and will probably go with what Matt wants).

Kathy just isn't a threat in any way, shape or form....why evict her when a stronger compeitor can be taken out.

[bill2451]

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I think Ragan will be forced to vote out Andrew because if Kathy gets 3 votes, its very obvious the 3rd one would have come from Ragan. And I can't imagine he'd want that kind of attention drawn to himself...

its also why if I was someone like Britney, I would actually vote the other way and vote Kathy out... You know she's safe (even if Britney did that, AND Ragen voted Kathy out, Matt would still get the final say), so no harm no foul, and no one would EVER suspect you. Everyone would assume it was Ragan (he could try and deny it, but thats what he'd do if he was singled out regardless), which would give the house 3 big targets over the coming weeks (Brendan, Rachel, and Ragan) plus, if those 3 end up taking a couple ppl on the other side (aka the Brigade) out along the way, even better

one move like that and you could potentially set up a chain of events where 5 or so ppl get eliminated before you're even a thought again (and at that point, late in the game, ppl might begin to want to take you along to the finals, thinking it'd be easy to beat you)

of course, I know that wont happen... but I can imagine lol