ICE takes down nine piracy sites

[MC Fatigue]

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Also, MC Fatigue, get off your high horse.

Yeah - I'm sorry, I'll get off my anti-thief high horse now. My bad for thinking stealing is wrong.

[Stumbleweed]

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ninjavideo was ****ing awesome

Indeed... booooo. TVShack was pretty good too.

At least they didn't get to my precious ATDHE...

As far as piracy in general, I'd gladly sit through an ad or 2 like Hulu to watch the shows I watch illegally. It's their own fault (especially networks like HBO that struggle with piracy the most due to their subscription-only status) for not figuring out how to be viable with a model like that, because it's the wave of the future.

The broadcast networks see the writing on the wall, hence Hulu Plus, etc. HBO and the other pay networks have to realize the same thing... people will still pay for the convenience of the subscription for DVRing, etc., but I think they're missing a chance to expand the appeal of their shows while also taking a bite out of illegal downloading/streaming. I think most people would rather have a quality feed with a few commercials like Hulu than have to sit around waiting around for a torrent to download or sitting through a streaming site with Chinese characters covering part of the screen and crappy quality. I have qualms about downloading illegally as well, and I'd much prefer to get something legally, but I'm still not about to shell out money for it on a monthly basis. They can be ad-supported, I'm sure of it.

[vanderbiltfan87]

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"ICE Assistant Secretary John Morton, speaking at a Walt Disney Studios soundstage where he was joined by movie studio executives and union representatives, trumpeted the bust as the beginning of a "long-term effort to turn the tables on these thieves." The targeted websites, he added, are "run by people who have no respect for creativity and innovation."

I love they were at Disney, one of the worst monopolies in the world.


"Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a statement that the actions were necessary to protect the jobs and livelihoods of "ordinary working people" and warned others involved in similar websites. The studios claim that they lose hundreds of millions of dollars annually to pirated content.

"If your business model is piracy, your story will not have a happy ending," Bharara said.

Ordinary Working People? The government is only protecting the few overly rich p.o.s. who have all the power. The government doesn't care about the creators, just the rich people who give them money.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Creativity and innovation? lol

Stuff like this just pisses me off. I am sure if they cared about the ordinary person they would instead of paying Tom Cruise $20 million for a movie, they would pay him a lot less and spread that wealth to the grips, writers and other crew.

I'd like to see an indepent study of how much money is actually lost. Most people pirate movies they would have other wise had no intention of ever paying money to see. It's the same with music, most people I know will pay for music of artists they like and that need the money and just download crap like lil wayne who doesn't need it.

[MC Fatigue]

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Creativity and innovation? lol

Stuff like this just pisses me off. I am sure if they cared about the ordinary person they would instead of paying Tom Cruise $20 million for a movie, they would pay him a lot less and spread that wealth to the grips, writers and other crew.

I'd like to see an indepent study of how much money is actually lost. Most people pirate movies they would have other wise had no intention of ever paying money to see. It's the same with music, most people I know will pay for music of artists they like and that need the money and just download crap like lil wayne who doesn't need it.

And what about the fact that the people who often provide these materials via websites and torrents are making money from their websites? People are basically letting thieves make money by using their sites.

That's what always gets me. People talking about how companies don't deserve the money, yet they're supplying criminals with money by using their sites. I suppose if it's not coming out of their pocket, though, that doesn't matter?

[rice_n_gravy]

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**** ninjavideo and their 70 minute time limit

[Beantown]

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**** ninjavideo and their 70 minute time limit

I assume you're referring to the time limit on the "flash" movies.

That's megavideo's time limit, not ninjavideo.

[andayaman]

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As fast as they were "taken down", these sites remain active. Tvshack and Movies-links still live. Look it up.

[stiffarmleft]

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newsgroups FTW

[Bahnzo]

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newsgroups FTW

I was about to post that....you guys need to learn about Usenet and forget the garbage torrents (where people can track you) and websites.

[stiffarmleft]

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I was about to post that....you guys need to learn about Usenet and forget the garbage torrents (where people can track you) and websites.

Yep, SSL FTW.

[SPTO]

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I was about to post that....you guys need to learn about Usenet and forget the garbage torrents (where people can track you) and websites.

Can they track you even on private torrents?

If this is too close to hitting the TOS please reply in private.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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And what about the fact that the people who often provide these materials via websites and torrents are making money from their websites? People are basically letting thieves make money by using their sites.

That's what always gets me. People talking about how companies don't deserve the money, yet they're supplying criminals with money by using their sites. I suppose if it's not coming out of their pocket, though, that doesn't matter?

I doubt they are just raking in the dough by providing a free service. They have to pay to host the ability to stream video and store massive amounts on information.

[MC Fatigue]

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I doubt they are just raking in the dough by providing a free service. They have to pay to host the ability to stream video and store massive amounts on information.

That doesn't take away from the fact that they're crooks and that they're making money off of it through ads on their sites.

[bkfount]

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I'd like to see an indepent study of how much money is actually lost. Most people pirate movies they would have other wise had no intention of ever paying money to see. It's the same with music, most people I know will pay for music of artists they like and that need the money and just download crap like lil wayne who doesn't need it.

The producers of the hurt locker made all that noise about suing people who used torrents to download their movie. Sure, it's illegal, but the movie had a limited release, was getting oscar buzz, and leaked almost half a year before it even released in the US. What did they expect would happen?

Piracy is here, and shutting down sites or suing people constantly won't do anything. The movie industry decided to fight piracy in some countries by beating the pirates to the market with a cheaper bare bones dvd copy of the film. They can sell them cheap, and get them out before the higher quality dvd screeners hit the internet.

I don't see why they couldn't do that here. They'd translate some pirates into customers, theaters will still get traffic, and movie studios would still be able to sell proper DVD/bluray copies later.