LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

**SuperBowlNachos** · 11-22-2016, 02:51 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by Footballforever

I don't know , I'm having a hard TV seeing the HDR feature in NBA 2K17 AND GEARS OF WAR 4. all my xbox one S settings are green checks and the enhanced feature on my HDMI is on. Been driving me crazy, or it could be that I'm expecting more then what I see.

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Can you turn off HDR on the fly? Maybe try switching back and forth. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't tell the difference. It was probably a feature added to these games later on and not used to it's full potential.

**Artman22** · 11-22-2016, 03:02 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos

Can you turn off HDR on the fly? Maybe try switching back and forth. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't tell the difference. It was probably a feature added later on and not used to it's full potential.

Not only that but not all tvs will show HDR in its full potential.

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**NYGiants4Natic** · 11-22-2016, 03:35 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos

Can you turn off HDR on the fly? Maybe try switching back and forth. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't tell the difference. It was probably a feature added to these games later on and not used to it's full potential.

The HDR is very apparent on the PS4 PRO not so much on the Stock PS4

But if you have a tv that is low end then you will not see what it should be

**Candyman5** · 11-22-2016, 09:20 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic

At this price point HDR is irrelevant as it will not look good compared to what others are seeing. Concentrate on a tv with excellent motion and low input lag first.

What is the point of having HDR that will not look great with high input lag and terrible motion

Whats a good recommendation for a HDR tv then? Prefer 40ish inch.

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**Blzer** · 11-22-2016, 10:21 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I was just at Best Buy browsing for other stuff, and ventured into the Magnolia section. OLED kicks LED *** in every way that I could see, and that was before looking at the technologies themselves (meaning I looked at all of the images and said, "I really like that one above all else," and it was OLED). Too bad the large one was still $20,000. Just going to have to wait a while I suppose.

Then I wandered into the gaming section and saw an NBA 2K17 trailer in 4K and what appeared to be HDR-enabled by seeing some of the colors that I did. Not the "saturation" of them or anything, but rather what kinds of colors I was seeing. It was pretty stunning.

I wish there were 4K HDR monitors out there.

23 · 11-22-2016, 10:31 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by Blzer

I was just at Best Buy browsing for other stuff, and ventured into the Magnolia section. OLED kicks LED *** in every way that I could see, and that was before looking at the technologies themselves (meaning I looked at all of the images and said, "I really like that one above all else," and it was OLED).

Too bad the large one was still $20,000. Just going to have to wait a while I suppose.

No question colors blacks etc...

Input lag for gaming is awful though

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**bubbachuck** · 11-22-2016, 10:37 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic

I use warm 2 for everything...I use to be the cool color and dynamic color person before I tried movie and warm 2...I hated it for like the first 2 weeks and bounced back to the cool and standard modes that my eyeballs were use to..

Not until I got into videophile world that I start to tweak and tweak till it clicked and hired a pro calibrator who charged 400 to set up my old tv...He finished and I told him I hated it but he told me to stick it out and not change at all for 2 weeks...It was a tough 2 weeks but towards the end of the 2 weeks I started to not hate it or even care...He emailed me 3 weeks later and told me if I changed and I said no and that I did not bother anymore because i got use to it...So he told me to grab the remove and put on a movie. I did and he said change to cool and standard or dynamic mode...I tried and I was horrified at how horrible it looked. I switched back and forth and I hated the cool color. I can now see blue tinge even the slightest and I fix it...Warm 2 on the samsung along with movie mode or my mode which is Cal day and cal night is what my eyes love and I know that is what the producers intended to show....

Cant ever go back. When I put game mode on a new samsung set it defaults to cool or normal and I quickly change it to warm 2 and fix the 2 point gamma and color space and feel much better afterwards.

So I picked up the 8500 a few weeks ago and have been having this warm 2 struggle. I am going to stick it out for the next couple of weeks and see if I truly do "see the light." Overall I am absolutely loving this set though.

I did have a question... is there anyway to know how to go about setting up the 2pt white balance? Is the only option professional calibration? I know every set/personal set up is different, but I'm not even sure what the options are changing when I adjust them haha

**NYGiants4Natic** · 11-22-2016, 11:12 PM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Here is my Samsung KS8500 settings for watching tv and gaming

For watching tv, sports, and netflix, and blu rays

Picture Mode (Movie)
Special View Mode (Off)
Picture Size (16:9 Standard with Fit To Screen (On)

Expert Settings:

Backlight (7) (Set this to your preference
Brightness (45)
Contrast (95)
Sharpness (0)
Color (50)
Tint (50-50)
Digital Clean View (Off)
Auto Motion Plus (Off)
Smart LED (High)
Film Mode (Off)
HDMI UHD Color (Off)
HDMI Black Level (Auto Greyed Out)
Dynamic Contrast (Off)
Color Tone (Warm 2)

White Balance:

2pt:
R-Offset (0)
G-Offset (0)
B-Offset (0)
R-Gain (-1)
G-Gain (0)
B-Gain (-14)

10pt OFF

Gamma (-2)

RGB Only Mode (Off)

Color Space Custom

Red:
Red (37)
Green (9)
Blue (2)

Green:
Red (29)
Green (52)
Blue (4)

Blue:
Red(0)
Green (4)
Blue (58)

Yellow:
Red (53)
Green (53)
Blue (4)

Cyan:
Red (27)
Green (51)
Blue (55)

Magenta:
Red (30)
Green (9)
Blue (44)

For Gaming on either console

Picture Mode (Game greyed out)
Special Viewing Mode (Game Mode ON)
Picture Size (16:9 Standard) Fit To Screen ON)

Expert Settings:

Backlight (14) Up to you (20 max for HDR content)
Brightness (45)
Contrast (100)
Sharpness (0)
Color (50)
Tint (50-50)
Digital Clean View (Greyed Out)
Auto Motion (Greyed Out)
Smart LED (High) for SDR and HDR
Film Mode (Greyed Out)
HDMI UHD Color (ON for your HDMI input for gaming) Required for HDR
HDMI Black Level (Auto)
Dynamic Contrast (Off)
Color Tone (Warm 2)

White Balance:

2pt:
R-Offset (0)
G-Offset (0)
B-Offset (0)
R-Gain (-2)
G-Gain (0)
B-Gain (15)

10pt (Greyed Out)

Gamma (0)
RGB Only Mode (Off greyed out)
Color Space (Auto or Native) Native for HDR content

**wrestlinggod1** · 11-23-2016, 12:13 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Wow dude. Just tried these settings while playing NBA 2K17. Stunning. I guess the color tone really does make a huge difference.

Spoiler

**mestevo** · 11-23-2016, 01:59 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yeah, I need to plug in some stuff for my ks8000. Feel like I should see the HDR better and the Martian in 4k I don't feel like I'd pass a blind test of 'is this 4k or not'

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**kwebbvols4423** · 11-23-2016, 06:47 AM

Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Grabbed the 40 inch Samsung KU6300 for 350. Wife wanted a TV for the bedroom

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**bigfnjoe96** · 11-23-2016, 07:00 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by Candyman5

Another I think I found.

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Buy Samsung KU6300, that's the 1 you want.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-40-class-40-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/5069100.p?skuId=5069100

Even though it doesn't state it it does HDR in gaming mode as per ratings.com

Samsung KU6300 Review (UN40KU6300, UN43KU6300, UN50KU6300, UN55KU6300, UN60KU6300, UN65KU6300, UN70KU6300)

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

The 4k Samsung KU6300 Series UHD LED TV doesn't have a stellar picture quality but is good enough for most content. It supports an HDR input, but it doesn't have...

Or jump on the Hinsense 50 inch which is going for $249.99 on black friday

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**Candyman5** · 11-23-2016, 09:08 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by bigfnjoe96

Buy Samsung KU6300, that's the 1 you want.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-40-class-40-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/5069100.p?skuId=5069100

Even though it doesn't state it it does HDR in gaming mode as per ratings.com

Samsung KU6300 Review (UN40KU6300, UN43KU6300, UN50KU6300, UN55KU6300, UN60KU6300, UN65KU6300, UN70KU6300)

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

The 4k Samsung KU6300 Series UHD LED TV doesn't have a stellar picture quality but is good enough for most content. It supports an HDR input, but it doesn't have...

Or jump on the Hinsense 50 inch which is going for $249.99 on black friday

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Whats the difference between that Samsung and this one?

Samsung 40-inch 4K television for just $299

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-40-class-40-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-dark-titan/5622308.p?skuId=5622308

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**bigfnjoe96** · 11-23-2016, 09:20 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by Candyman5

Whats the difference between that Samsung and this one?

Samsung 40-inch 4K television for just $299

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-40-class-40-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-dark-titan/5622308.p?skuId=5622308

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That model is specific to Best Buy, and doesn't offer HDR in gaming. The 6300 supposedly does offer HDR in gaming

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**gmac0322** · 11-23-2016, 09:28 AM

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Originally posted by bigfnjoe96

Buy Samsung KU6300, that's the 1 you want.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-40-class-40-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/5069100.p?skuId=5069100

Even though it doesn't state it it does HDR in gaming mode as per ratings.com

Samsung KU6300 Review (UN40KU6300, UN43KU6300, UN50KU6300, UN55KU6300, UN60KU6300, UN65KU6300, UN70KU6300)

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

The 4k Samsung KU6300 Series UHD LED TV doesn't have a stellar picture quality but is good enough for most content. It supports an HDR input, but it doesn't have...

Or jump on the Hinsense 50 inch which is going for $249.99 on black friday

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Where is the hisense being sold at that price? I looked at best buys ad and I didn't see the tv in it.

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