In the process of getting a new TV...

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • RavensFan2k3
    Pro
    • Sep 2003
    • 609

    #1

    In the process of getting a new TV...

    Hey guys, I'm in the process of getting a new TV and I want to know what I'm getting before actually getting it. There's a bunch of terminology being thrown around; LED, LCD, 1080p, etc. I just want to know which direction I should be heading in. My main use for the TV will be gaming and watching TV lol. My main confusion is between LED and LCD, and is one significantly better than the other. Like is it worth paying $100+ for the same TV because it is LED as opposed to LCD? What about TVs that have both? Also does the brand matter? Thank you.
  • bigfnjoe96
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
    • 11410

    #2
    Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

    If you have a couple of minutes, read this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...lasma-lcd.html

    You'll get a lot of information which will help you in making a decision..

    Comment

    • GAMEC0CK2002
      Stayin Alive
      • Aug 2002
      • 10384

      #3
      Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

      Quick crash course:

      720p vs. 1080p
      Two main resolutions you'll find flat panel tvs in. 1080p is the higher resolution. the "p" stands for progressive scan meaning the tv creates the image at 1 time (horizontal and vertical lines done at same time) The closer you sit (and the bigger size you choose) the more important it is to choose 1080p

      Plasma vs. LCD vs. LED


      Plasma

      Uses gas phosphors behind a glass panel to make the image.

      Pros--

      usually cheaper than comparable LCD and LED
      almost no motion blur
      darker blacks
      best viewing angles

      Cons--
      tends to be reflective due to the glass panel used
      not as bright as LCDs/LEDs (much better in darker environments)
      care must be taken early on to prevent image retention (temporary) and burn in (highly unlikely unless you are negligent)

      LCDs
      Tvs most like your computer monitors
      uses CCFLs (cold cathode flourescent lamp) for the backlight

      Pros--
      very bright
      lower energy consumption than a plasma
      worry free (image retention or burn in are not concerns)
      cheaper than LEDs

      Cons--
      viewing angles not as good as plasma
      blacks aren't as dark (needed to make the picture "pop" out)
      motion blur can be an issue (would recommend 120 Hz over 60 Hz)

      LED
      still an LCD only it uses small LED lights for the backlight
      latest flat panel technology
      come in 2 basic flavors (edge lit vs. full array local dimming...edge lit has the LEDs around the perimeter and full array has the LEDs spread over the entire panel)

      Pros--
      thinnest profile and lightweight (at least for the edge lit)
      local dimming sets can get blacks nearly equal to that of plasmas
      most energy efficient
      best combination of the advantages of plasmas and LCDs

      Cons--
      most expensive
      edge lit displays might not be much of an improvement over regular LCDs
      slim profile means tiny speakers are put in it

      Before buying do your research:
      1) What's your budget and what size do you need?
      2) Where's it going? (is it a bright room vs. dark room)
      3) What's it being used for (daytime viewing, gaming, late night movies)
      4) What features are a priority? (internet apps, 3D, LED, etc)

      I'd recommend visiting some friend's houses that have TVs you're interested in. Picture will look different in your house than on display in a store (Best Buy, Walmart, etc)


      Good luck.

      Comment

      • RavensFan2k3
        Pro
        • Sep 2003
        • 609

        #4
        Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
        If you have a couple of minutes, read this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...lasma-lcd.html

        You'll get a lot of information which will help you in making a decision..
        Damn, 46 pages? lol, thanks man. I guess I better get started.

        Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
        Quick crash course:

        720p vs. 1080p
        Two main resolutions you'll find flat panel tvs in. 1080p is the higher resolution. the "p" stands for progressive scan meaning the tv creates the image at 1 time (horizontal and vertical lines done at same time) The closer you sit (and the bigger size you choose) the more important it is to choose 1080p

        Plasma vs. LCD vs. LED


        Plasma

        Uses gas phosphors behind a glass panel to make the image.

        Pros--

        usually cheaper than comparable LCD and LED
        almost no motion blur
        darker blacks
        best viewing angles

        Cons--
        tends to be reflective due to the glass panel used
        not as bright as LCDs/LEDs (much better in darker environments)
        care must be taken early on to prevent image retention (temporary) and burn in (highly unlikely unless you are negligent)

        LCDs
        Tvs most like your computer monitors
        uses CCFLs (cold cathode flourescent lamp) for the backlight

        Pros--
        very bright
        lower energy consumption than a plasma
        worry free (image retention or burn in are not concerns)
        cheaper than LEDs

        Cons--
        viewing angles not as good as plasma
        blacks aren't as dark (needed to make the picture "pop" out)
        motion blur can be an issue (would recommend 120 Hz over 60 Hz)

        LED
        still an LCD only it uses small LED lights for the backlight
        latest flat panel technology
        come in 2 basic flavors (edge lit vs. full array local dimming...edge lit has the LEDs around the perimeter and full array has the LEDs spread over the entire panel)

        Pros--
        thinnest profile and lightweight (at least for the edge lit)
        local dimming sets can get blacks nearly equal to that of plasmas
        most energy efficient
        best combination of the advantages of plasmas and LCDs

        Cons--
        most expensive
        edge lit displays might not be much of an improvement over regular LCDs
        slim profile means tiny speakers are put in it

        Before buying do your research:
        1) What's your budget and what size do you need?
        2) Where's it going? (is it a bright room vs. dark room)
        3) What's it being used for (daytime viewing, gaming, late night movies)
        4) What features are a priority? (internet apps, 3D, LED, etc)

        I'd recommend visiting some friend's houses that have TVs you're interested in. Picture will look different in your house than on display in a store (Best Buy, Walmart, etc)


        Good luck.
        I really...REALLY appreciate this. The thing is that after reading your pros and cons, it seems that there isnt a real "better" one, they are all just different. Lets see if answering your questions help you help me make a decision.

        1. My budget? I was looking on spending no more than a few hundred dollars. From what I've been looking at so far, it ranges from $300-$500.
        2. I bright room or a dark room? Kinda hard to answer that. I guess the room is dark, if the light isnt on lol.
        3. It will be used for daytime and night gaming, watching TV(mainly sports), and movies.
        4. Features? I dont care for extra features like internet. I just want to have the best picture for when I'm gaming.

        Comment

        • GAMEC0CK2002
          Stayin Alive
          • Aug 2002
          • 10384

          #5
          Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

          Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
          Damn, 46 pages? lol, thanks man. I guess I better get started.



          I really...REALLY appreciate this. The thing is that after reading your pros and cons, it seems that there isnt a real "better" one, they are all just different. Lets see if answering your questions help you help me make a decision.

          1. My budget? I was looking on spending no more than a few hundred dollars. From what I've been looking at so far, it ranges from $300-$500.
          2. I bright room or a dark room? Kinda hard to answer that. I guess the room is dark, if the light isnt on lol.
          3. It will be used for daytime and night gaming, watching TV(mainly sports), and movies.
          4. Features? I dont care for extra features like internet. I just want to have the best picture for when I'm gaming.
          My recommendations, assuming you want the biggest tv your budget will allow and skipping on non-name brand companies. Also, willing to purchase online vs. a big box store. Amazon is great way to get tv--lowest price, free shipping, free 30 day return.

          At $500, you can go 40-42 inch 1080p LCD or 42 inch 720p plasma:

          Toshiba 40", 60 Hz ($498 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-40E200...4835176&sr=1-5

          Panasonic 40", 120 Hz ($550 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-L...835646&sr=1-12

          Panasonic 42" , 120 Hz LCD ($550 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-L...836022&sr=1-14

          IMO, $50 over budget is worth it to go Panasonic and get 120 Hz (will help with gaming)

          At $500, 42 inch plasmas are going to be 720p

          LG ($488 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/LG-42PJ350-42-...4836382&sr=1-3

          Samsung ($480 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/LG-42PJ350-42-...4836382&sr=1-3

          Panasonic ($518 shipped, no taxes) http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P...4836750&sr=1-5

          Personally I'd go with one of the 1080p, 120 Hz LCD sets. I prefer plasmas, but not at the expense of the highest resolution. The LCDs will allow you to game hardcore from day one without having to lower the contrast to counteract image retention that comes with new plasmas.

          Good luck.

          PS-- If 40-42 inches is too big you can always drop down to a 37" or 32" LCD. My rule of thumb, "get the biggest name brand HDTV your space will allow AND budget can afford"
          Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 01-12-2011, 08:14 AM.

          Comment

          • RavensFan2k3
            Pro
            • Sep 2003
            • 609

            #6
            Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

            I wish I could express how much I appreciate your help my friend. I never considered buying online, I like to make purchases like this in person, but I definitely am considering buying online now. I went into Best Buy the other day and there were a few TVs that I narrowed down to, tell me what you think. I'll tell you the specs that I remember.

            1. 32" Insignia 1080p, 120 Hz, LED for $450

            2. 32" Insignia 1080p, 120 Hz, LCD, Energy Savor for $400 or so

            3. 32" Insignia 1080p, 60 Hz, LCD, Engery Savor for $350 or so.

            4. 32" LG 1080p, 60 HZ, LCD, between $380.

            These were just rough estimates, because they were in store and couldnt find them online and I dont remember the exact prices. As you can see, a 32" is fine for right now lol. Thi isnt going to be the TV in the living room or anything, it'll be for my personal use in my own room, so I dont need 40"+, atleast I dont think lol. Actually 28" would be fine, but they dont make those apparently, and I think 26" is too small. You mentioned that online you'll get better deals, also you mentioned skipping on non-name brands. Why skip on non name brands? $500 is def pushing it..really pushing it btw.

            Oh and you mentioned that LED's usually have smaller speakers because they are thinner. I noticed the LEDs have 16 watt speakers and the LCD have 20 watt speakers. How much of a difference does that make?
            Last edited by RavensFan2k3; 01-12-2011, 05:29 PM.

            Comment

            • CWood2
              TNA & WWE thanks you
              • May 2004
              • 4356

              #7
              Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

              I'd stay away from 60Hz. The new TVs have 240 for a lot of brands, so 60 is a ways back. Those are all the TVs that get flaunted on Black Friday for people that want size and price, but don't understand picture refresh and the quality you get with a better processor.

              Comment

              • Seether4113
                R**k**
                • Feb 2003
                • 536

                #8
                Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                I wish I could express how much I appreciate your help my friend. I never considered buying online, I like to make purchases like this in person, but I definitely am considering buying online now. I went into Best Buy the other day and there were a few TVs that I narrowed down to, tell me what you think. I'll tell you the specs that I remember.

                1. 32" Insignia 1080p, 120 Hz, LED for $450

                2. 32" Insignia 1080p, 120 Hz, LCD, Energy Savor for $400 or so

                3. 32" Insignia 1080p, 60 Hz, LCD, Engery Savor for $350 or so.

                4. 32" LG 1080p, 60 HZ, LCD, between $380.

                These were just rough estimates, because they were in store and couldnt find them online and I dont remember the exact prices. As you can see, a 32" is fine for right now lol. Thi isnt going to be the TV in the living room or anything, it'll be for my personal use in my own room, so I dont need 40"+, atleast I dont think lol. Actually 28" would be fine, but they dont make those apparently, and I think 26" is too small. You mentioned that online you'll get better deals, also you mentioned skipping on non-name brands. Why skip on non name brands? $500 is def pushing it..really pushing it btw.

                Oh and you mentioned that LED's usually have smaller speakers because they are thinner. I noticed the LEDs have 16 watt speakers and the LCD have 20 watt speakers. How much of a difference does that make?
                I'm not 100% sure if it's still true or not, but Insignia used to be outsourced to LG and has a 2-year warranty instead of the typical 1-year.
                Jesus saves

                PSN ID: seether4113
                360 GT: seether4113

                Comment

                • GAMEC0CK2002
                  Stayin Alive
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 10384

                  #9
                  Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                  Originally posted by Seether4113
                  I'm not 100% sure if it's still true or not, but Insignia used to be outsourced to LG and has a 2-year warranty instead of the typical 1-year.
                  Pretty sure that's still true. Less worry with Insignia since you do have a 2 year warranty.

                  If you're paying the same amount of money, I personally would go with a known company like Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, LG, for reliability, picture quality, and features.

                  On paper, that 120 HZ LED by Insignia (with 2 year warranty) looks like the best value of that group (normally $600)...keep in mind after taxes it's going to be right at $500.

                  Which one looked the best in store?

                  Good luck.

                  $500 is a lot to pay for a 32 inch display.
                  Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 01-12-2011, 08:09 PM.

                  Comment

                  • VinylOne
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 304

                    #10
                    Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                    I got a 32" Dynex for $300 at Best Buy. It is 720p but I love it. You only need 1080 if you are buying 40" and above. Otherwise just settle for a cheaper 720p IMO.

                    Comment

                    • CaptainZombie
                      Brains
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 37851

                      #11
                      Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                      Originally posted by CWood2
                      I'd stay away from 60Hz. The new TVs have 240 for a lot of brands, so 60 is a ways back. Those are all the TVs that get flaunted on Black Friday for people that want size and price, but don't understand picture refresh and the quality you get with a better processor.
                      240hz is mainly for the 3D LCD's.
                      HDMovie Room

                      Comment

                      • GAMEC0CK2002
                        Stayin Alive
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 10384

                        #12
                        Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                        Originally posted by VinylOne
                        I got a 32" Dynex for $300 at Best Buy. It is 720p but I love it. You only need 1080 if you are buying 40" and above. Otherwise just settle for a cheaper 720p IMO.
                        Generally true, unless you are going to be really close to the screen or it is serving as your computer monitor. Then the extra resolution makes a difference.

                        With a $20 difference between 720p and 1080p, why not? $349 + tax http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...lcd&cp=1&lp=13

                        vs $329 + tax http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...lcd&cp=1&lp=11

                        Comment

                        • RavensFan2k3
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 609

                          #13
                          Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                          Originally posted by CWood2
                          I'd stay away from 60Hz. The new TVs have 240 for a lot of brands, so 60 is a ways back. Those are all the TVs that get flaunted on Black Friday for people that want size and price, but don't understand picture refresh and the quality you get with a better processor.
                          Ok, I'll keep that in mind. I didnt see any TVs with 240Hz.

                          Originally posted by Seether4113
                          I'm not 100% sure if it's still true or not, but Insignia used to be outsourced to LG and has a 2-year warranty instead of the typical 1-year.
                          What do you mean that Insignia is outsourced by LG? Does this mean that they are made by the same ppl? Therefore making Insignia a quality company?

                          Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                          Pretty sure that's still true. Less worry with Insignia since you do have a 2 year warranty.

                          If you're paying the same amount of money, I personally would go with a known company like Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, LG, for reliability, picture quality, and features.

                          On paper, that 120 HZ LED by Insignia (with 2 year warranty) looks like the best value of that group (normally $600)...keep in mind after taxes it's going to be right at $500.

                          Which one looked the best in store?

                          Good luck.

                          $500 is a lot to pay for a 32 inch display.
                          Yeah $500 does seem like alot. So are you saying Insignia is a good company or I should still go with one of the heavy hitters? To get a TV with all those specs I told you, but with a well known company, the price will be much greater. So its either get better specs with a lessor company or get not as good specs with a well known company.

                          Originally posted by VinylOne
                          I got a 32" Dynex for $300 at Best Buy. It is 720p but I love it. You only need 1080 if you are buying 40" and above. Otherwise just settle for a cheaper 720p IMO.
                          You think so? My friend she has a TV with 720p, and I noticed a diff playing my Xbox at my parents house with 1080p and playing her PS3 on her 720p TV.

                          Originally posted by CaptainZombie
                          240hz is mainly for the 3D LCD's.
                          Oh ok, because I definitely didnt see any at the store.

                          Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                          Generally true, unless you are going to be really close to the screen or it is serving as your computer monitor. Then the extra resolution makes a difference.

                          With a $20 difference between 720p and 1080p, why not? $349 + tax http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...lcd&cp=1&lp=13

                          vs $329 + tax http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia...lcd&cp=1&lp=11
                          So is buying online the way to go?

                          Comment

                          • GAMEC0CK2002
                            Stayin Alive
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 10384

                            #14
                            Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                            If you're trying to stay closer to the $300 range, I'd probably choose the 1080p, 120 Hz Insignia (assuming it's only $20-30 more than the 720p model).

                            A comparable Samsung or Sony is going to look better but it's not like you'll have one sitting right beside your Insignia when you get it home. And you'll be saving about $100-150 + getting a 2 year warranty vs. 1 year.

                            If you want 1080p and 120 Hz, you're not gonna find that in a Sammy or Sony for that Insignia's price.
                            Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 01-15-2011, 02:55 PM.

                            Comment

                            • RavensFan2k3
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 609

                              #15
                              Re: In the process of getting a new TV...

                              I really want the better specs, like the 120Hz(or greater), 1080p, and even the LED. And if that means going with a company like Insignia so be it. I dont think its worth getting lower specs just for a better company, do you agree?

                              Also, you mentioned the tiny speakers on LEDs. I've been reading up on that and alot of people have been complaining about that, unless you've got it hooked up to a home entertainment system, the sound is terrible. That may be an issue for me.
                              Last edited by RavensFan2k3; 01-15-2011, 04:07 PM.

                              Comment

                              Working...