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  • Beantown
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    • Feb 2005
    • 31523

    #16
    Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

    Only Pixar movie I have never really liked was Cars, so I don't think I'll see this until it's free on TV. No interest in it.

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    • SPTO
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      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #17
      Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

      My favorite Pixar movie of all time is a toss up between Cars, Toy Story 3 and Wall-E. It just depends on my mood as to what's number one.
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      • Happy29
        All Star
        • Jan 2006
        • 5501

        #18
        Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

        Taking my wife and kids to see it Friday if the kids enjoy it that's all that matters to me.
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        • JohnnytheSkin
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 5914

          #19
          Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

          Originally posted by WatsonTiger
          I was about to say the same thing. I have always liked Cars more than Up, but I guess my opinion is incorrect
          Yes...yes it is...



          Seriously though, I loved Up. The whole "relationship as an adventure" theme just hit me, nearly as hard as the fatherhood/do anything for your kid thing smacked me hard with Finding Nemo. The two are easily in my Top Five Pixar, if not the Top Three for those reasons.
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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #20
            Cars will always be the least impressive of the bunch until this is released in theaters. I know there are people that pick Cars over some of the others (and I personally liked Cars) but it just struggled to connect with audiences that love Pixar.

            What I've read of the sequel makes me believe this is a definite shot at making more money off merchandising. Suddenly it's got international appeal since the film centers on a World Grand Prix and more eye-candy action that kids love.

            It's cool. I respect Pixar's decision. They have Brave coming next year. It already looks amazing and any comments like "Pixar is over!" that will undoubtedly be spoken by people soon will be silenced around this time next year.


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            • dunnyduns
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              • Feb 2003
              • 1408

              #21
              Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

              Originally posted by CMH
              What I've read of the sequel makes me believe this is a definite shot at making more money off merchandising. Suddenly it's got international appeal since the film centers on a World Grand Prix and more eye-candy action that kids love.
              Merchandise is probably the one reason why Pixar made Cars 2. Pixar had to have made a ton of cash on the Cars clothing and toy line. I know ever since the original movie came out I have seen Cars toys on almost every retail stores shelf I have been to.

              I bet the sales on Cars merchandise has made more money for Pixar than the sales of the merchandise of all their other movies combined and then some. Only Toy Story probably even comes close to Cars in terms of merchandise.

              Edit: Found a article that states according to Disney since Cars release in 2006 it has generated 10 billion in retail sales. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun...cars2-20110621

              It also states that Disney/Pixar plans to release a Direct to DVD Cars spinoff called Planes in 2013. Then I read this quote by John Lasseter "...by expanding the Cars world, 'Planes' gave us a whole new set of fun-filles situations and a great oppertunity to introduce some fantastic new characters". I read the introduce some fantastic new characters as some more fantastic new toys to purchase.

              While the Cars movies aren't terrible they seem like money grabs by Disney/Pixar. At least Cars 2 and spinoff Planes do.
              Last edited by dunnyduns; 06-22-2011, 08:54 PM.

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              • JayBee74
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 22989

                #22
                Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                Originally posted by dunnyduns
                Edit: Found a article that states according to Disney since Cars release in 2006 it has generated 10 billion in retail sales. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun...cars2-20110621
                Wow, some serious bucks. The article said they sold 300 different toys or other items.

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #23
                  If they have to sell their souls so they can make ten other great films then so be it. Gotta cash in when you can. No hate on that. I'd bet Cars 2 merchandise will fund projects for years.


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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42585

                    #24
                    Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                    Originally posted by CMH
                    If they have to sell their souls so they can make ten other great films then so be it. Gotta cash in when you can. No hate on that. I'd bet Cars 2 merchandise will fund projects for years.
                    I guess it just hits you hard when you hear Lasseter and Unkrich say that they wouldn't consider making a movie unless they had a strong, compelling story to go with it. This is of the reasons there wasn't a Toy Story 3 for so long, and let's be thankful they wrapped up the series with a pretty little bow around it on a very, very high note.

                    So, it somewhat alarms me that Cars 2 is seemingly lackluster even in comparison to the first Cars movie when it comes to a story. Let's just be glad that TS3 didn't go this route, otherwise I would've put Pixar right next to Dreamworks when it comes to "terms for seeing a movie." Let's just hope Toy Story 4 isn't planned any time soon, and if it they decided to make it, it would only be because it was twice as good as Toy Story 3.
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                    • JohnnytheSkin
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5914

                      #25
                      Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                      Blzer, did you not see Lotso the strawberry scented bear on store shelves? Did you not see the Lego sets? Did you not see the action figures? Let's not pretend that Toy Story 3 didn't sell a ton of merchandise. It was a sellout movie too, and the fact that Disney was going to cash in on it without Pixar (before their deal) was the impetus for Pixar to re-up and stay with Disney (and Disney buckled hard giving Lasseter control of ALL of Disney animation).

                      I didn't mention it before, but as CMH said, I'm actually more excited for the teaser for Brave than I am for Cars 2. Cars was the first film I took my son too, and we walked out after thirty minutes because he wouldn't stop talking about how cool it was, LOL. A few days later, with the wife, we saw it as a family and it was great. And yes, I chased the toys all over Ebay. I want to think that this isn't a cash grab, as it will make tons of dough regardless of merchandising. I just hope Pixar gets the sequel-itis out of it's body, and focuses again on unique properties, or at least brings Brad Bird back in the fold and release and Incredibles sequel (though I feel he'd want a new IP anyway).

                      As an aside, anyone read about how there are already political complaints about the film based upon the villain choice? Ha!
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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42585

                        #26
                        Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                        Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
                        Blzer, did you not see Lotso the strawberry scented bear on store shelves? Did you not see the Lego sets? Did you not see the action figures? Let's not pretend that Toy Story 3 didn't sell a ton of merchandise. It was a sellout movie too, and the fact that Disney was going to cash in on it without Pixar (before their deal) was the impetus for Pixar to re-up and stay with Disney (and Disney buckled hard giving Lasseter control of ALL of Disney animation).
                        What I meant was that they've had scripts of Toy Story 3 coming in and out of the Pixar offices, with rewrites here and there, until they finally green-lit the movie and started producing it. My point was, they came out with a quality story before releasing the movie, and it showed. They easily could have made a "cash grab" sequel that would be at 70% on RT, but they didn't. This is happening for Cars 2, and the heart of the story doesn't seem all that excellent.

                        I never said they weren't allowed to profit off their films, but it's not just always about money with Pixar.
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                        • ExtremeGamer
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 35299

                          #27
                          Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                          Luckily, my Son was bored to tears during Cars 1, tried it 3 times. He has no interest in Cars 2. I didn't like Cars 1 either, so it's a win win for me.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #28
                            Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            What I meant was that they've had scripts of Toy Story 3 coming in and out of the Pixar offices, with rewrites here and there, until they finally green-lit the movie and started producing it. My point was, they came out with a quality story before releasing the movie, and it showed. They easily could have made a "cash grab" sequel that would be at 70% on RT, but they didn't. This is happening for Cars 2, and the heart of the story doesn't seem all that excellent.

                            I never said they weren't allowed to profit off their films, but it's not just always about money with Pixar.
                            Maybe many are overreacting. Maybe Pixar set out to make a heartful story and just failed. It was bound to happen. Many companies make movies hoping it will connect with audiences and they mess up too.

                            Perhaps, Pixar thought they had the perfect idea for a sequel to Cars and for whatever reason, messed up. They can't be perfect forever. They're going to want to expand and try new things and sometimes those new things just don't work.

                            But, hey, if you can try something new, take a risk, and know that your property will still reap in the merchandise rewards, you take it.
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                            • jmood88
                              Sean Payton: Retribution
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34637

                              #29
                              Re: Cars 2 (Pixar)

                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              What I meant was that they've had scripts of Toy Story 3 coming in and out of the Pixar offices, with rewrites here and there, until they finally green-lit the movie and started producing it. My point was, they came out with a quality story before releasing the movie, and it showed. They easily could have made a "cash grab" sequel that would be at 70% on RT, but they didn't. This is happening for Cars 2, and the heart of the story doesn't seem all that excellent.

                              I never said they weren't allowed to profit off their films, but it's not just always about money with Pixar.
                              I just don't think that they have a deep love for Cars so if they're going to put out a crappy sequel to make money, I'm glad it's for a franchise that I have absolutely no interest in and not any of their good one's.
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                              • JBH3
                                Marvel's Finest
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 13506

                                #30
                                This will be my 3yr old son's first movie at the theatre, will like the movie no matter what.
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