Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

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  • JayBee74
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    • Jul 2002
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    #106
    Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

    In season 1 Nucky told Jimmy if he did such and such he'd have to kill him. He said it nicely, and Jimmy responded, "I know".

    I realize the decision to kill Jimmy was made around or after episode 9 of this season, but I bet those words had some influence on the character's death.

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    • monkigrass
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      • Jul 2010
      • 48

      #107
      Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

      Nobody on this show is safe except Nucky. He's the sole person you see in the credits.

      His shoes staying clean in a ocean of alcohol tells you everything you need about this show. Its Nucky's show and the next episode can always be your last.

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      • pk500
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        • Jul 2002
        • 8062

        #108
        Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

        My big question: Who will be Nucky's archrival in Season 3? It looked like those foes would be Jimmy and his father. Now they're both gone.

        I predict Arnold Rothstein -- or possibly Eli. Or maybe, in the huge bomb, Margaret. We may have seen a portent when she signed over the land to the church, setting up a huge dispute with Nucky for early in Season 3.

        Something tells me Jimmy's mother -- played by the SIZZLING Gretchen Mol -- also will rally some troops against Nucky. I don't think her time is done on the show.

        Or could you see an alliance between Richard Harrow and Owen Sleater? The two cold-blooded killers uniting to grab power? It's possible.

        So many mouthwatering possibilities. And now we must wait nine months. UGH!

        I hope Agent Van Alden maintains a prominent role in Season 3, but it's unlikely. He was one of the most compelling characters on this excellent show, played superbly by Michael Shannon.
        Last edited by pk500; 12-13-2011, 09:42 AM.
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        • Graphik
          Pr*s*n*r#70460649
          • Oct 2002
          • 10582

          #109
          Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

          Just finished watching. Is this the last epidode? I haven't been paying much attention, just watching.

          As for Jimmy...I honestly didn't see it and his death goes down as one of the more memorable.

          I think season 3 will revolve around Capone and the agent. We all know Capone and if you all dont think he would be a interesting character to carry the next season, yall are nuts. I liked Jimmie just as much as the next guy but I cant complain how he went out. Me and my lady were just saying before the ending that he could never pick a side. And that inevitably led to his downfall.

          There are plenty of angles this show can go. One group that hasn't been mentioned yet is the church. The church is just as corupt as Nucky and crew so I'm sure it'll be a interesting ride to see Nucky try to get his land back.
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          • Steel5
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            • Feb 2010
            • 1768

            #110
            Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

            Originally posted by monkigrass
            Nobody on this show is safe except Nucky. He's the sole person you see in the credits.

            His shoes staying clean in a ocean of alcohol tells you everything you need about this show. Its Nucky's show and the next episode can always be your last.
            I think the last episode proved that, as he had so much up against him this season and basically got away with everything, which I guess is really one of the main themes of his character and the show, but he is not a likable character in my eyes and too see him come out of this season clean as can be was upsetting to me. For now, Nucky is invincible.

            As for bigger characters next season, I assume Capone will start to be a major player if they decide to follow through with the time jump, which also means that Van Alden will certainly still be a significant character as he moved to the same town that Capone starts his rise in in 1923-24.
            Last edited by Steel5; 12-13-2011, 12:01 PM.

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            • pk500
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              • Jul 2002
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              #111
              Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

              Good point on the Capone-Van Alden connection of the Chicago suburb of Cicero, Ill. That must be the reason the landlady told Van Alden and his nanny, "Welcome to Cicero," when they moved in the apartment in Van Alden's only scene in the season finale.

              So it looks like Van Alden still will be a major character in Season 3. Cool! Michael Shannon is a terrific actor.
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              • fistofrage
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                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #112
                Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                Right now, Nucky is in more of a pickle than you think. His money is all tied up and Margaret just gave away 160,000 acres of land which is basically all he had. Owen isn't loyal to him and neither is his wife.

                His biggest allies are his brother who will soon be in jail, Doyle and the Butcher. He doesn't have a position of power anymore. His connections are getting older and the young guys like Capone and company seem like they will overtake the power in regions Nucky once considered allies.

                He could either rise back up or easily be destroyed.
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                • KingV2k3
                  Senior Circuit
                  • May 2003
                  • 5881

                  #113
                  Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                  I was shocked by the "twist" at the end, but that's just me allowing myself to be pulled into the story without overthinking it...

                  Where do they go from here?

                  I have a feeling that the creators / producers had a plan for season 3, well before they took the plot where it went...

                  Anyway, as long as Van Alden, Richard Harrow and the Philly Butcher are still around (along with Jimmy's Mom) there's a potential powderkeg of WTF around every turn...

                  I'll give it a shot next time around, for certain...

                  Oh, and speaking of Van Alden...

                  He did turn out to be quite the "ladies man" in a roundabout sort of way...

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                  • Rocky
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6896

                    #114
                    Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                    I just don't think people realize how much Jimmy has carried the series so far. Going back to Season 1 where he teamed up with Capone, took Harrow in, and punked Luciano to this season where you pretty much saw his rise and fall. Don't get me wrong, there are many great characters in the show but I think out of the three main characters (Nucky, Jimmy, and Margaret), Jimmy was the most interesting and made the secondary characters stand out the most.

                    As his behavior got more and more erratic during this season, I could sense that they were going to kill him off....and even then I was hoping that they didn't go through with it. Yes, it made sense why he was written off and the scene was extremely powerful, but I don't see what good it does over the long term which leads me to by far the most disappointing thing about this season:

                    Van Alden character was TERRIBLY written the whole season long and the last episode is the worst. Are we supposed to believe that he becomes a huge gangster or politician in Chicago with Capone? C'mon. That's extremely far-fetched to me especially with how stern his character has been written to this point and everyone knows that he has committed murder. He could've become the perfect foil to Nucky without Jimmy in the way and pretty much an earlier, ape**** version of J. Edgar Hoover. I just don't understand the direction they went in with him.
                    "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
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                    • Porschebenz2001
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                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3628

                      #115
                      Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                      Originally posted by Rocky
                      I just don't think people realize how much Jimmy has carried the series so far. Going back to Season 1 where he teamed up with Capone, took Harrow in, and punked Luciano to this season where you pretty much saw his rise and fall. Don't get me wrong, there are many great characters in the show but I think out of the three main characters (Nucky, Jimmy, and Margaret), Jimmy was the most interesting and made the secondary characters stand out the most.

                      As his behavior got more and more erratic during this season, I could sense that they were going to kill him off....and even then I was hoping that they didn't go through with it. Yes, it made sense why he was written off and the scene was extremely powerful, but I don't see what good it does over the long term which leads me to by far the most disappointing thing about this season:

                      Van Alden character was TERRIBLY written the whole season long and the last episode is the worst. Are we supposed to believe that he becomes a huge gangster or politician in Chicago with Capone? C'mon. That's extremely far-fetched to me especially with how stern his character has been written to this point and everyone knows that he has committed murder. He could've become the perfect foil to Nucky without Jimmy in the way and pretty much an earlier, ape**** version of J. Edgar Hoover. I just don't understand the direction they went in with him.
                      Did you read he was gonna be a big time gangster or politician somewhere?

                      If not, I doubt its gonna happen. He will either work for Capone or be a pawn. He is clearly desperate now. Desperate people do stupid things.
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                      • mjb2124
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #116
                        Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                        Finally got to watch the last episode. I have no problem with them killing off Jimmy although I did enjoy the depth of his character. His death was a bit surprising - even though the minute he checked that his son had his dog tags, it was a clear giveaway that he was doing to die. I'll tune in next year as well to see where they go from here. It should be interesting.

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                        • fistofrage
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                          • Aug 2002
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                          #117
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                          Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
                          Did you read he was gonna be a big time gangster or politician somewhere?

                          If not, I doubt its gonna happen. He will either work for Capone or be a pawn. He is clearly desperate now. Desperate people do stupid things.
                          Is he desperate or does he have a stash of cash saved up. He could have made a quick $150,000 by teaming up with Doyle and busting the young guns but he turned it down. He may not need the money.

                          Its very possible if he stashed a bunch of cash, he could live in anonimously until he decides to strike and lower the boom. It doesn't take alot of money to live like Van Alden. I can see him rising up later with Capone and sticking a nice thorn in Nucky's side, especially if Nucky teams with Doyal and Capone is looking for a reason to lash out.
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                          • fistofrage
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                            • Aug 2002
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                            #118
                            Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                            Originally posted by mjb2124
                            Finally got to watch the last episode. I have no problem with them killing off Jimmy although I did enjoy the depth of his character. His death was a bit surprising - even though the minute he checked that his son had his dog tags, it was a clear giveaway that he was doing to die. I'll tune in next year as well to see where they go from here. It should be interesting.
                            I rewathced the episode. It followed the line of a very famiiar story. He tells Richard he feels like a steak and that was basically like his last supper. Then he goes willingly to his execution and accepts it. And everything between that point.

                            Still trying to figure out why he felt he had to make things right with Nucky. How is this going to help anything in the long run? Seems to me if he wanted out, he should have taken his inheritance and moved with his son to an undisclosed location far away from Atlantic City and stopped the cycle. Of course he said he dies in the trenches years ago so he probably wasn't thinking about the long run.
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                            • ASB37
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2624

                              #119
                              Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                              Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
                              Did you read he was gonna be a big time gangster or politician somewhere?

                              If not, I doubt its gonna happen. He will either work for Capone or be a pawn. He is clearly desperate now. Desperate people do stupid things.
                              I actually think the direction they have gone with the Van Alden character has been great.

                              Admittedly I was disappointed with how they handled him in the beginning of the season. That being said I love what they have done to him at the end of the season.

                              The way I see it now, he flirted with the idea of trying to take out Nucky the "good" way. I think in the short term he will become obsessed with taking him out and will join the dark side so to speak to do so. Honestly I feel his progression has been totally natural, I think he is placing the blame solely on Nucky for his downfall. His child's mother is Nucky's ex girlfriend, and it seems clear he is not thrilled with the kid.

                              Van Alden can and will become Nucky's new thorn in the side, but he won't do so through law and order.
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                              • pk500
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #120
                                Re: Boardwalk Empire (Season 2)

                                Originally posted by fistofrage
                                Still trying to figure out why he felt he had to make things right with Nucky.
                                That cleared his conscience.

                                Jimmy knew Nucky or one of his henchmen were going to kill him. So at least he died knowing he tried to make peace with his longtime father figure before that father figure killed him.
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