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  • Burns11
    Greatness Has Arrived
    • Mar 2007
    • 7406

    #1

    Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

    http://blog.netflix.com/2011/09/expl...flections.html
    I messed up. I owe everyone an explanation.
    It is clear from the feedback over the past two months that many members felt we lacked respect and humility in the way we announced the separation of DVD and streaming, and the price changes. That was certainly not our intent, and I offer my sincere apology. I’ll try to explain how this happened.
    For the past five years, my greatest fear at Netflix has been that we wouldn't make the leap from success in DVDs to success in streaming. Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores – do not become great at new things people want (streaming for us) because they are afraid to hurt their initial business. Eventually these companies realize their error of not focusing enough on the new thing, and then the company fights desperately and hopelessly to recover. Companies rarely die from moving too fast, and they frequently die from moving too slowly.
    When Netflix is evolving rapidly, however, I need to be extra-communicative. This is the key thing I got wrong.
    In hindsight, I slid into arrogance based upon past success. We have done very well for a long time by steadily improving our service, without doing much CEO communication. Inside Netflix I say, “Actions speak louder than words,” and we should just keep improving our service.
    But now I see that given the huge changes we have been recently making, I should have personally given a full justification to our members of why we are separating DVD and streaming, and charging for both. It wouldn’t have changed the price increase, but it would have been the right thing to do.
    So here is what we are doing and why:
    Many members love our DVD service, as I do, because nearly every movie ever made is published on DVD, plus lots of TV series. We want to advertise the breadth of our incredible DVD offering so that as many people as possible know it still exists, and it is a great option for those who want the huge and comprehensive selection on DVD. DVD by mail may not last forever, but we want it to last as long as possible.
    I also love our streaming service because it is integrated into my TV, and I can watch anytime I want. The benefits of our streaming service are really quite different from the benefits of DVD by mail. We feel we need to focus on rapid improvement as streaming technology and the market evolve, without having to maintain compatibility with our DVD by mail service.
    So we realized that streaming and DVD by mail are becoming two quite different businesses, with very different cost structures, different benefits that need to be marketed differently, and we need to let each grow and operate independently. It’s hard for me to write this after over 10 years of mailing DVDs with pride, but we think it is necessary and best: In a few weeks, we will rename our DVD by mail service to “Qwikster”.
    We chose the name Qwikster because it refers to quick delivery. We will keep the name “Netflix” for streaming.
    Qwikster will be the same website and DVD service that everyone is used to. It is just a new name, and DVD members will go to qwikster.com to access their DVD queues and choose movies. One improvement we will make at launch is to add a video games upgrade option, similar to our upgrade option for Blu-ray, for those who want to rent Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Members have been asking for video games for many years, and now that DVD by mail has its own team, we are finally getting it done. Other improvements will follow. Another advantage of separate websites is simplicity for our members. Each website will be focused on just one thing (DVDs or streaming) and will be even easier to use. A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated. So if you subscribe to both services, and if you need to change your credit card or email address, you would need to do it in two places. Similarly, if you rate or review a movie on Qwikster, it doesn’t show up on Netflix, and vice-versa.
    There are no pricing changes (we’re done with that!). Members who subscribe to both services will have two entries on their credit card statements, one for Qwikster and one for Netflix. The total will be the same as the current charges.
    Andy Rendich, who has been working on our DVD service for 12 years, and leading it for the last 4 years, will be the CEO of Qwikster. Andy and I made a short welcome video. (You’ll probably say we should avoid going into movie making after watching it.) We will let you know in a few weeks when the Qwikster.com website is up and ready. It is merely a renamed version of the Netflix DVD website, but with the addition of video games. You won’t have to do anything special if you subscribe to our DVD by mail service.
    For me the Netflix red envelope has always been a source of joy. The new envelope is still that distinctive red, but now it will have a Qwikster logo. I know that logo will grow on me over time, but still, it is hard. I imagine it will be the same for many of you. We’ll also return to marketing our DVD by mail service, with its amazing selection, now with the Qwikster brand.
    Some members will likely feel that we shouldn’t split the businesses, and that we shouldn’t rename our DVD by mail service. Our view is with this split of the businesses, we will be better at streaming, and we will be better at DVD by mail. It is possible we are moving too fast – it is hard to say. But going forward, Qwikster will continue to run the best DVD by mail service ever, throughout the United States. Netflix will offer the best streaming service for TV shows and movies, hopefully on a global basis. The additional streaming content we have coming in the next few months is substantial, and we are always working to improve our service further.
    I want to acknowledge and thank our many members that stuck with us, and to apologize again to those members, both current and former, who felt we treated them thoughtlessly.
    Both the Qwikster and Netflix teams will work hard to regain your trust. We know it will not be overnight. Actions speak louder than words. But words help people to understand actions.
    Respectfully yours,
    -Reed Hastings, Co-Founder and CEO, Netflix
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  • SuperBowlNachos
    All Star
    • Jul 2004
    • 10218

    #2
    Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

    A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated. So if you subscribe to both services, and if you need to change your credit card or email address, you would need to do it in two places. Similarly, if you rate or review a movie on Qwikster, it doesn’t show up on Netflix, and vice-versa.


    This stuck out to me, and a lot of people in the comments. You won't be able to see if Movie X is on DVD and stream. You will have to search in both places.

    The video games are intriguing. I've never not gotten a movie on day 1 from Netflix, but on Gamefly its long wait unless you get lucky. Wish Game companies and movie companies realize that a lot of people don't want thei product new or at full price. They'll either rent it, buy it used or use alternative methods. Companies can at least work out deals to get a percentage of rentals while providing the services with cheaper and more product.

    It's late, this probably made no sense.

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    • trobinson97
      Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
      • Oct 2004
      • 16366

      #3
      Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

      A lot of good discussion in that topic. For instance:

      Kacy Knight · Woodside, New York: I have a great idea Reed. You should start selling whatever it is that you've been smoking recently.

      Reed Hastings · Top Commenter · Netflix Kacy Knight : Hmmm.



      A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated. So if you subscribe to both services, and if you need to change your credit card or email address, you would need to do it in two places. Similarly, if you rate or review a movie on Qwikster, it doesn’t show up on Netflix, and vice-versa.
      And that's a huge negative imo. The option for video games does nothing for me either. if I hadn't switched to streaming only before I surely would have after this news.
      Last edited by trobinson97; 09-19-2011, 06:20 AM.
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      • ExtremeGamer
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        • Jul 2002
        • 35299

        #4
        Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

        The different websites thing is really a terrible idea, but it leads me to believe one thing, that Netflix will be selling off the DVD side of the business in the next year or so. Then they will concentrate only on the streaming side. It's felt as if they want to get out of the DVD business for awhile, and this is their out.

        Funny how it's just one bad decision after another at this point though. Everything they do lately is just poorly planned out. I get an email apologizing for the mistakes, and in it, they create a new mistake with Quickster.com (or however it's spelled). Ugh.

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        • Fresh Tendrils
          Strike Hard and Fade Away
          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #5
          Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

          I posted this in the Netflix thread, but receiving the e-mail this morning overall it rubs me the wrong way. The service is great, but the way they've gone about it is as if they have no plan whatsoever. The streaming up-charge would have made more sense if it was incorporated into this move and not by itself a month before. So now they've put themselves up for losing even more customers. In the end, this obviously placed separation just seems like a knee-jerk reaction to the negative impact of the streaming increase.



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          • luv_mist
            Older
            • May 2004
            • 9596

            #6
            Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

            I think they are going to sell the DVD side also. That's a great observation. It's their bread and butter. The only thing is that the consumer/customer is not of that mindset to want to go all streaming. I love the streaming but I can't be without the movie rental because it's convenient for those shows and movies I can't get on streaming which are of a higher priority for me. With streaming, they have movies on for a limited time which will force you to pick and choose which movies you have to watch first.

            Whoever is giving this guy this advice is definitely in need of a removal ASAP because they are going to lose my support. I've been word-of-mouthing this company hard. Honestly, Blockbuster is starting to look better. If they have the streaming, the DVD/Blu-ray thing, AND video games at a competitive pricing, I might jump ship within a few weeks. Anyone know about Blockbuster's setup?

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            • TheBadazz
              MVP
              • Jun 2004
              • 2610

              #7
              Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

              I'll stick it out just to see how this is going to work. Two different web sites is stupid. I think Qwikster will probably be sold off. Then who knows. Netflix could have pick a better name. Maybe MediaFlix (since it would be the media service). I'll go for the games. Hopefully it will be better than Blockbuster online. They suck on the games side. It seemed like a total afterthought.
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              • Burns11
                Greatness Has Arrived
                • Mar 2007
                • 7406

                #8
                Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

                Originally posted by luv_mist
                Anyone know about Blockbuster's setup?

                Not sure as far as movies go, but they don't stock games until after they have been out 3 months.

                Only thing that excited me was the games, but I've said before that Netflix's setup works well for DVDs where they are cheap and you can have ton in stock to spread over all the distro centers and games might not work out the same way. I guess we will just have to see how it shakes out.

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                • SuperBowlNachos
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 10218

                  #9
                  Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

                  Originally posted by luv_mist
                  I think they are going to sell the DVD side also. That's a great observation. It's their bread and butter. The only thing is that the consumer/customer is not of that mindset to want to go all streaming. I love the streaming but I can't be without the movie rental because it's convenient for those shows and movies I can't get on streaming which are of a higher priority for me. With streaming, they have movies on for a limited time which will force you to pick and choose which movies you have to watch first.

                  Whoever is giving this guy this advice is definitely in need of a removal ASAP because they are going to lose my support. I've been word-of-mouthing this company hard. Honestly, Blockbuster is starting to look better. If they have the streaming, the DVD/Blu-ray thing, AND video games at a competitive pricing, I might jump ship within a few weeks. Anyone know about Blockbuster's setup?
                  What is Netflix is selling off their DVD service to Blockbuster?

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #10
                    Re: Netflix DVD by mail is now Quickster, will offer games

                    There is a huge netflix thread right about this guys, sorry

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