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  • scourge
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    • Aug 2005
    • 316

    #16
    Re: school me on hdtvs

    Originally posted by olliethebum85
    Some other questions.

    Do you have a 3D capable blu ray player?

    Is this your first HDTV? Are you gonna have to upgrade your TV service?


    not my first hdtv. I have a 65" 1080p DLP but I think I'm going to give that to my sister. She let me live with her rent free when I needed a place to stay. Thought it would be a good gift.

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    • scourge
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      • Aug 2005
      • 316

      #17
      Re: school me on hdtvs

      Originally posted by olliethebum85
      Are you dead set on LED?

      no, not dead set

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      • AllJuicedUp
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        • Apr 2011
        • 349

        #18
        Re: school me on hdtvs

        Prices are jacked up right now, but if you're patient, I've seen the Vizio XVT3D-4SV series with ridiculously low prices on amazon and walmart at times.

        The 55 inch fluctuated at times below $1,000 during July/August and the 47 inch was as at $850 (haven't payed attention to the prices after that since I snagged it up). I don't care about the 3d, but for a fully dimming LED TV, that price is fantastic.

        If you're patient, I'm sure you'd be able to find a similar deal.

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        • scourge
          Rookie
          • Aug 2005
          • 316

          #19
          Re: school me on hdtvs

          I'm hoping amazon comes through with something

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          • scourge
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            • Aug 2005
            • 316

            #20
            Re: school me on hdtvs

            Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
            http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LW5300-42...2024076&sr=1-5

            This appears to be a nice starter LED 3D TV (Amazon every day price). 42", 1080p, 120Hz , 3D, with 3D blu ray player and 4sets of glasses for $727 shipped (no taxes depending on what state you live in).

            Note: The 47" step up version will be available for Black Friday (no price set yet--- perhaps $800?) Same deal except bigger TV with internet apps and 240Hz. http://bfads.net/Amazon-Black-Friday...-of-3D-Glasses

            HH Greg BF deal. 47", 120 Hz for $800. http://bfads.net/hhgregg-Black-Frida...-Bluray-Player

            Walmart.com has the HH Greg deal available online right now for the same price. $800 http://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-47-47LW...93273619632452 SOLD OUT ONLINE

            Just a FYI: 3D versions of blu rays run about $10 more than the just 2D version. New releases start at (and stay close to) $30 each. Good luck

            wish I could figure out when that LG 3D deal goes live on amazon. That looks like it could be the one

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            • Kramer5150
              Medicore Mike
              • Dec 2002
              • 7391

              #21
              Re: school me on hdtvs

              Here's an article that may or may not help you out......

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              TV Specs That Aren’t Worth Paying For

              <cite class="byline vcard">By Taylor Hatmaker, Tecca | Upgrade Your Life – <abbr title="2011-11-23T22:55:18Z">Wed, Nov 23, 2011</abbr></cite>







              Almost every year, TV manufacturers have touted some shiny new technology as the reason you need to buy a new set: flat screens, HDTV, plasmas, LCDs, 3D TV… but all of these are now old news. Practically the only trick stores have left is to reduce the price. This makes it an ideal year to get a great bargain, but only if you know what to look for — and what to avoid.

              Plasma vs. LED vs. LCD
              Not all HDTVs are created equal. If you're getting a new set, the first factor to decide on is the type of TV that is best for you. Your main choices include:
              *Plasma - Plasmas feature an older technology, but don't completely count them out. They are cheaper, have deep blacks for rich contrast, and handle sports and fast motion well. But they are energy hogs, using three or four times as much electricity as Energy Star LEDs.
              *Traditional LCD - Bright, with middle-of-the-road cost, traditional LCDs are prone to greyish blacks, and budget models can have blockier motion processing than other options.
              *LED-backlit LCD - LED displays can be brighter and thinner than plasmas and LCDs. They are more energy conscious, and the top of the line models handle blacks as well as plasmas do.
              Specs to Ignore (or at least not pay extra for)
              Resolution
              Resolution is the measure of how many pixels are on the screen. The higher the resolution, the higher definition you get. HDTVs (High Definition Televisions) are generally sold as either 720p or 1080p - which have 720 or 1080 rows of pixels. You might think having more pixels is better, and you'd be right — but only to a point. The real truth is that the human eye can barely discern the difference between 720p and 1080p except at a close distance on really big TVs. So paying extra for 1080p on a smaller set doesn't make a lot of sense.
              Internet connected TV
              Sometimes known as smart TVs, Internet-connected TVs allow you to stream to your set all that the Web has to offer. While that's a handy feature, you can always add on a device like the Roku for around $50-$70 or the Apple TV for about $100. Also most DVD players these days also have an Internet port or a way to get access to your home wifi network.
              Refresh rate (or Hz)
              Refresh rates determine how fast the TV repaints the image on the screen. 60Hz models refresh the screen 60 times per second; 120Hz models refresh the screen 120 times per second. It's true that buying a TV with 120Hz refresh rate instead of 60Hz makes a noticeable difference when watching fast-moving programs like sports, where motion blur can become an issue at 60Hz.
              But if you get tempted to buy a more expensive 240Hz model because you think it'll make your TV viewing even better, think again. Many tech analysts agree that the naked eye can barely perceive the difference between 120Hz and 240Hz, making it unnecessary to pay extra for the latter.
              Specs that Matter
              Size
              Buy as big as you can afford, but not too big for your room. THX came up with a useful guide that helps you determine optimal screen size based on the distance you'll sit from the screen:
              • 32 inch class TV = 3.5-5 feet away
              • 42 inch class TV = 4-6 feet away
              • 50 inch class TV = 5-7.5 feet away
              • 60 inch class TV = 6-9 feet away

              If a TV's thickness matters to you, then you may want to take a closer look at LED TVs. Samsung's LED9000 series measures a wafer-like 0.3" in depth; no traditional LCD or plasma TV is that thin. LED displays can be thinner than plasmas and CCFL-lit LCDs because some models are edge-lit, meaning the LEDs that illuminate the screen are only located on the edges.

              Dimming
              If you've narrowed your selection down to LEDs, consider getting a set with local dimming. LEDs without this feature can look blown out, with blacks that look more like greys. Local dimming turns down the brightness in areas that are supposed to be dark, dynamically improving the contrast. Note that edge-lit models with local dimming don't perform as well as full-backlit units with local dimming capacity.
              While LED with its local dimming feature, thinness, and minimal energy use may sound the ideal HDTV set, know that it can also be the most expensive option among the three. The 55" Samsung LED9000 model, for example, costs around $2,500 whereas some of Samsung's 50" plasma TVs can be priced as low as $1,149.99.
              Matte vs. Glossy
              LCDs used to all havematte displays, which tend to fare better in parts of the house with an abundance of ambient light. Glossy displays have better contrast and sharper colors, but you may want to place them in darker places so your TV viewing won't be ruined by glare from lights and windows reflecting on the screen.
              What About 3D?
              It's a personal decision, but one that will cost you. According to the shopping site dealnews.com, a 3D TV will go for almost double the cost of a comparable 2D TV.
              Active or passive 3D glasses?
              If you do pony up for 3D, you'll need to decide between systems that require active or passive glasses. Active shutter glasses can produce slightly better images, but are heavy, need recharging, and could cost a ton — yes, you need to pay extra for your 3D glasses on top of the TV itself. Some lower-end active glasses cost around $20, while higher-end ones are in the three figure price range. Passive 3D glasses are lighter and cheaper, but passive systems produce lower-quality images.
              Glasses-free models
              Manufacturers are working on 3D TVs that don't require any kind of glasses, but they are hardly ready for prime time. Toshiba, for instance, has released a no glasses 3D TV, but it's only available in Europe and Japan and costs a mind-blowing $10,000 for a 55" model — and it has viewing angle problems. Samsung says it won't be able to mass produce glasses free models for quite some time.
              Where's the content?
              While manufacturers would love for you to pay a premium for 3D systems, there's not a lot of content available to watch. That may be changing, but right now producing 3D content is the lowest priority among TV executives.
              The Bottom Line
              The type of TV you choose should depend on your needs and the television's placement in your home. If you don't mind paying a premium, LED TVs offer the full package, and are also the most future-proof. Traditional LCDs and plasma TVs lag behind when it comes to features. But if you're looking to get the largest HDTV your money can buy, either of them may be the better choice for you.
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              • oneamongthefence
                Nothing to see here folks
                • Apr 2009
                • 5683

                #22
                Re: school me on hdtvs

                So I have a 32 inch Samsung. Its 720 and 60hz. I use my tv for gaming. Would it be worth it to upgrade to 1080 and 120hz? I wanna get a 42 inch this go round as well. I know how much better movies look but haven't seen games played on that resolution/refresh rate.
                Because I live in van down by the river...

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                • 55
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 20857

                  #23
                  Re: school me on hdtvs

                  The higher refresh rate will absolutely make a difference in gaming. Especially in meter based stuff like pitching in The Show or reloading a weapon in shooters. I also noticed a difference in Rock Band and had to recalibrate.

                  My old TV was 120hz and my new one is 600hz and it is like night and day.

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                  • scourge
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                    • Aug 2005
                    • 316

                    #24
                    Re: school me on hdtvs

                    some great info on here

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                    • trobinson97
                      Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 16366

                      #25
                      Re: school me on hdtvs

                      I really just want a solid 32" LCD for the boys room. I found a Toshiba on newegg for 229 but the promo code isn't working.
                      PS: You guys are great.

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                      • GAMEC0CK2002
                        Stayin Alive
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 10384

                        #26
                        Re: school me on hdtvs

                        Originally posted by trobinson97
                        I really just want a solid 32" LCD for the boys room. I found a Toshiba on newegg for 229 but the promo code isn't working.
                        Did you call customer service? If the code is legit they can apply it for you.


                        (I had to do this with staples earlier today)

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                        • Goffs
                          New Ork Giants
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12278

                          #27
                          Re: school me on hdtvs

                          Here's one I'm thinking of getting for my mom
                          http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LK450-42-...229205&sr=1-28

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                          • Zion21
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 36

                            #28
                            Re: school me on hdtvs

                            Great info being spread here. I am so tempted to buy a 42' on Amazon right now. Prices have gotten so low. <object
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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #29
                              Re: school me on hdtvs

                              I'd be careful about listening to that guy's article when it comes to that "human eye" garbage. I remember when I was told that I couldn't detect more frames if they were interpolated above 24 FPS, and no offense, but this is a bull**** statement. Yes, it is true that as you go higher, it does become less discernable. That does not mean that it isn't discernable, though.

                              This is especially true for the 720p/1080p argument. In my opinion, as a Blu-ray owner, I would not settle for 720p if I had the choice. The other reason is, much like the 2D/3D argument, the 1080p televisions are superior anyway, even for 720p content. If I'm going above 32", I would look at 1080p, period.
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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42515

                                #30
                                Re: school me on hdtvs

                                Originally posted by 55
                                The higher refresh rate will absolutely make a difference in gaming. Especially in meter based stuff like pitching in The Show or reloading a weapon in shooters. I also noticed a difference in Rock Band and had to recalibrate.

                                My old TV was 120hz and my new one is 600hz and it is like night and day.
                                The 120 Hz and 600 Hz technologies are actually not a comparison, but instead are two completely different technologies. Plasma still runs at 60 frames per second, so the 600 Hz is completely irrelevant to motion resolution. The "600" value is a product of its refresh rate and its number of subfields (10), all which produce that same frame ten times (once per subfield) with varying intensity to produce color gradations. The 120/240 Hz features on LCD's is specifically tied into refresh rate, and is an artificial interpolation at that.

                                That said, I still prefer plasma's inherent technology, as they do indeed seem to produce substantially less input lag, especially for gaming.
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