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Absolutely loved it. I liked how they broke from the linear format and took us to China, etc.
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SpoilerI disagree about there being a shift in the "good guy" thing. The fact that Old Joe came back not bagged and gagged stuck out like a sore thumb and to me it was obvious he came back on his own terms. I went into the diner scene knowing that Old Joe was back for his wife only.
Minor nitpicking:
SpoilerI feel like they just dropped Joe's drug problem. Sarah told Joe that it'd take about a week before he's back at full strength, but there he is, shooting down guys on hover cycles and surviving truck wrecks, as well as having sex.And may thy spirit live in us, Forever LSU
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Adrenaline man.
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I thought about that, too, but all we see Young Joe doing is the drops so maybe they aren't as bad? Old Joe looked like he was into some hardcore stuff.
re: the diner
I feel like when Bruce lays out his motives and combined with the scene they show that it certainly makes the audience sway to his side. If Cid wasn't a kid I don't think as many people would have a problem with it. Just my impression.
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Just got back from seeing the movie with the girl friend and I loved it!!!! I had so many thoughts about it, but I just finished playing Borderlands 2 and i'm a bit tired so here's what i have
I will say this though,when time travel is involved in anything....questions arise:
SpoilerHis future self arriving the first time when he kills himself.....shouldn't that be a never ending cycle?
And about the rain-maker.....his existence makes sense if the new cycle of Joe coming from the future never ended and the cycle kept going. Joe from the future gives us details about rain maker having something wrong with his jaw and having seen his mother die in front of him.
Now i know the movie explains that when future Joe comes back, his memory is fuzzy and he doesn't remember too much because its cloudy.....however everything he described happened because of him; Yet in his future it's not because of him because he would of knew that and who the rain maker was.....???
Overall, the movie was pretty awesome. Filled with action and a pretty good plot that never get into too much detail to confuse the watchers. I even love that Bruce Willis' characters mentions not talking about time travel because it would take forever and would be too confusing to get into detail.
I knew this movie looked awesome when i heard about it, and it turned up being pretty good. Might go down on my list of 10 "amazing" movies along with DriveComment
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Just saw it, and thought it was great. Best movie I've seen since Drive. Thought they did a great job making a coherent and somewhat easy to follow time travel story.Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists AssociationComment
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Dont usually chime in on film stuff but saw this and kinda had to.
Looper will go down as a scifi classic.
It was different enough and interesting enough where it was able to identify itself.
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This movie will go down as a sc-fi classic. I love how they never truly focused on the sc-fi element but more of the characters.
And i must say, JGL did an amaze job portraying a young Bruce Willis. The scene where young Joe was brought in to talk to the guy running the current time Loopers, his facial gestures where spot on with Bruce Willis.
This is going down there with Drive as a sleeper hit that will have a cult followingComment
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I just came back from watching it and I thought it was amazing. However, I'm not too sure if there was a major plot hole or that I'm just missing something.
SpoilerIf we imagined this movie in a linear timeline, and its year 2044, I wouldn't see a need for Old Joe to come back to this timeline at all. From my understanding, Sid becomes the Rainman because of watching Old Joe murder his mother and it drives Sid to kill all the loopers and thus closing their loop. However, if we think of it in a linear timeline, Sid would have grown up completely normal without the time machine being built. When we advance 30 years into the future and the time machine is built, Sid shouldn't become the Rainman for the sole reason that he did not see someone murdering his mother. Old Joe would not have people trying to close his loop and thus go back and murder Sid. It seems that Sid should have grown up normally, and that Old Joe's timeline shouldn't even have the Rainman. This is how I imagined it but I would love someone correct my thinking.Comment
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I just came back from watching it and I thought it was amazing. However, I'm not too sure if there was a major plot hole or that I'm just missing something.
SpoilerIf we imagined this movie in a linear timeline, and its year 2044, I wouldn't see a need for Old Joe to come back to this timeline at all. From my understanding, Sid becomes the Rainman because of watching Old Joe murder his mother and it drives Sid to kill all the loopers and thus closing their loop. However, if we think of it in a linear timeline, Sid would have grown up completely normal without the time machine being built. When we advance 30 years into the future and the time machine is built, Sid shouldn't become the Rainman for the sole reason that he did not see someone murdering his mother. Old Joe would not have people trying to close his loop and thus go back and murder Sid. It seems that Sid should have grown up normally, and that Old Joe's timeline shouldn't even have the Rainman. This is how I imagined it but I would love someone correct my thinking.SpoilerIf Old Joe doesn't go back there isn't no Rainmaker in the future to send Old Joe back.
I tend to believe that just by Joe wanting to "cheat the system" that he in essence is changing all areas of time. Given the way we know memories work in the movie universe (they effectively "automatically" update with the new information from the past) I think the more it became likely that Joe would do whatever it takes to make his future "safe" then the memories started compensation for the outcome.
Either way, Old Joe had to come back.
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SpoilerWay I understand it. The rainmaker was a powerful kenetic always was always will be. he was already a danger a danger to his mothers sister etc. and ultimately to us. Whether or not he continues with his path is the question. Seemed like 2044 Joe kinda saw WHY in the first place he went after the loopers to begin with. The thing is though the kid was powerful and probably would still damage in some regard. Love dont hold back a hurricane pplBrand New Tomba Slider sets ready for Next Gen Versions of NBA,Madden and Fifa Stay Tuned...Comment
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Just got back from this with my fiance. Awesome movie. Just awesome.GT: Herkyalert
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SpoilerIt is very possible that Sid was a sociopath. He did accidentally murder his mother. However, even if he became power hungry, I see little reason for him to hunt loopers. Old Joe is self-absorbed and wouldn't go back in time unless it affects him or his wife.Comment
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SpoilerHonestly, I think they did enough with the kid to show that while he has this great power that he is still just a kid and deep down he's still good. He's resentful of himself and apologizes to Sarah after his little tantrum and obviously **** was hitting the fan with him falling down the stairs. The only time you could tell he had total control was at the end in the field and with Sarah "in the picture" he loses whatever anger he has.
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SpoilerIt is very possible that Sid was a sociopath. He did accidentally murder his mother. However, even if he became power hungry, I see little reason for him to hunt loopers. Old Joe is self-absorbed and wouldn't go back in time unless it affects him or his wife.SpoilerThis is where time travel movies become fun...
Isn't it possible that, unknown to the viewer, some looper attempts to kill Sid when he was younger, thus he realizes all the loopers must be killed?
Using this theory, it's quite possible that Joe's death doesn't change anything. Sid could still grow up, become who he is(was?) and the events we saw didn't change anything.
We're just assuming, as the viewer and the way the story is told, that these actions might effect a future outcome. 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