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  • AllJuicedUp
    Rookie
    • Apr 2011
    • 349

    #226
    Re: Big Brother 14

    I'm sorry, but that finale was a crock... Dan played possibly the best single season in BB history and lost because a bunch of people were bitter he was better than them. He ran the house, period.

    Lets rewind the clock and look at all the wow moments and the "did that really just happen, did he do that" and see who we're talking about. Dan or Ian. Hell, Ian talks about how he put his own fate in his hands all season, but the only reason he even survived the final 4 was because Dan is a freaking genius and managed to get Dani to take him off so he could vote out Shane. Just go back and watch Ian's reaction, he had no part in saving himself because he was merely a by product of a move by Dan.

    But for the most telling reason of all, just think about this. Dan is a FORMER WINNER who came back into the house with the most blatant target you can possibly have. You can't let him get to the finals, that is INSANE!

    If you are a former champion, and you make it back to the finals, you have to have played the best game. There is literally no other explanation.

    Look at Dr. Will. He played an amazing all star season (he also had the built in advantage of having 100% trust in someone else in the houes). And yet he still couldn't get past the final 4, because at that point it is plainly obvious he had played the best game and if he's in the finals he should win. So the moment he no longer has any kind of power, he got backdoored. No amount of slick talking or manipulation can hide the fact that a former champion has no business continuing to stay in the game, and that target only becomes larger, brighter, and more obvious, the deeper you get int he game. No amount of talking can hide the fact that it is the only logical move.

    Even Dr. Will couldn't save himself from the fact that when have the opportunity late in the game to take out the best player (and that best player happens to have already won the freaking game before!) you do it. No ifs, ands, or butts...

    And yet Dan survived the final 4 and 3 without winning a single competition. Dan, the man running the house, a former champion, managed to continually manipulate people into doing what he wanted to the bitter end. Something no one else in BB history has done as well or as long.

    If I told you the day Dan entered the house, that he would still be alive with 4 people left, wouldn't win any more HOH competitions or the final 4 veto, and he would still make the final 2, you would have had my head examined because it defies all logical explanation. It can't be done! lol

    Ian played a pretty good game. Fine. But Dan played arguably (and I wouldn't even say arguably, I'd say without a doubt) the best single season in BB history. Look at the Jury, 6 of the 7 people were sitting there as a direct result of each week playing exactly as Dan set it up. The only exception is Jenn, and at that point in the game she was cannon fodder anyway, to be executed when there was no other option. Every other member of the Jury was there as a direct result of Dan. Not as a result of some larger alliance or plan by someone else, but as a direct result of Dan manipulating people to do exactly as he wanted. And they all knew it (just listen to them when they first see the other Jury members... each of them pretty much would just walk in, shake their heads and be like, "Dan!").

    Every single person in the house knew how dangerous Dan was and how they couldn't let him keep running the house, and yet he did so anyway until the bitter end. And they reward that absolute brilliant game play with 1 single vote. That's a crime!

    The best player did not win this season, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who could say otherwise with a straight face.
    Last edited by AllJuicedUp; 09-21-2012, 03:17 AM.

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    • C the Lyte
      Left side, strong side
      • May 2009
      • 2253

      #227
      Re: Big Brother 14

      ^ Very well said and pretty much how I feel.

      But don't get me wrong, if Ian would've done this in another season wheres Dan wouldn't have been the force he was, he would have been a clear cut winner.

      Can't take away what he did and how he battled. He had a great season. Just wasn't the best this season.
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      • p_rushing
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2004
        • 14514

        #228
        Re: Big Brother 14

        Originally posted by C the Lyte
        ^ Very well said and pretty much how I feel.

        But don't get me wrong, if Ian would've done this in another season wheres Dan wouldn't have been the force he was, he would have been a clear cut winner.

        Can't take away what he did and how he battled. He had a great season. Just wasn't the best this season.
        Ian wouldn't have made past the first few weeks if it weren't for the coaches. Ian on his own in another season goes out quickly.

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        • elTodd
          Little Big Puig
          • Feb 2004
          • 1333

          #229
          Re: Big Brother 14

          Originally posted by p_rushing
          Ian wouldn't have made past the first few weeks if it weren't for the coaches. Ian on his own in another season goes out quickly.
          Yeah, he almost got booted in the first few weeks. If it wasn't for Mike, he would have went out quickly.

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          • C the Lyte
            Left side, strong side
            • May 2009
            • 2253

            #230
            Re: Big Brother 14

            Originally posted by p_rushing
            Ian wouldn't have made past the first few weeks if it weren't for the coaches. Ian on his own in another season goes out quickly.
            Originally posted by elTodd
            Yeah, he almost got booted in the first few weeks. If it wasn't for Mike, he would have went out quickly.
            Yeah but then we're dealing in hypotheticals. Who's to say if Dan wasn't a coach he wouldn't make it past the first few weeks?
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            • AllJuicedUp
              Rookie
              • Apr 2011
              • 349

              #231
              Re: Big Brother 14

              So apparently Brittney said in an interview the other day after the finale that Dan had 0 shot of winning and wouldn't have won against a bottle of ketchup... At least 3 of the houseguests (Jenn, Joe, and I don't remember the 3rd name) said that they were never going to vote for Dan because he had already won BB once.

              Which is complete lunacy if you ask me. The dude has now been in the BB house twice, and he's still never been evicted... thats crazy good!!!

              So like I said, what a crock!

              This season will be remembered for 2 things. 1) Dan playing the most dominant puppet master game ever (seriously, his moves were the type of moves you imagine in your head if "you were in the house". He played the game and made the moves every potential BB contestant wishes they could make). And 2) The most bitter jury house/final vote ever, plain and simple.

              And again, don't get me wrong, I think Ian played a pretty good game. Certainly better than quite a few recent past winners. But pretty good has no business beating out masterful, and that's exactly what Dan's manipulation of the house was.

              And it definitely makes the season as a whole a little bittersweet. Cause it was so much fun to watch, but the end leaves a bad taste in my mouth... heck, even freaking Boogie was bitter that Dan has arguably overthrown his buddy Dr. Will as the king of BB. He totally ignored Dan's existence in the final 2. Which is the ultimate hypocritical move, considering how ugly of a result it would have been had his jury house been so bitter during the All Star season and voted for whats-her-face instead of Mike. Oh man, that would have been terrible... But luckily that season they manned up and voted for the player who played the best game not the person who hurt their feelings the least. The fact that Boogie wouldn't advocate them doing the same for Dan is a load of crap.

              But if thats the way the BB casting is going, I look forward to a lot more seasons and players like we had in season 13! *rolls eyes*

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              • p_rushing
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 14514

                #232
                Re: Big Brother 14

                Originally posted by C the Lyte
                Yeah but then we're dealing in hypotheticals. Who's to say if Dan wasn't a coach he wouldn't make it past the first few weeks?
                Because Dan was the last coach standing

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                • joshuar9476
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1880

                  #233
                  Re: Big Brother 14

                  At first I was pissed that Dan did not win .... BUT

                  if Dan was going to truly take Ian to the final over Dani, he probably deserved to lose. Dan had a much better shot a winning over Danielle IMO. Props to Ian though, he was a great competitor .....

                  ... although, can we please have a ban on players with any type of photographic memory?
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                  • Burns11
                    Greatness Has Arrived
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 7406

                    #234
                    Re: Big Brother 14

                    Ian said he had a photographic memory, but he got too much wrong for that to be true. He didn't do any better than anyone else at the memory based comps.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47522

                      #235
                      Re: Big Brother 14

                      Originally posted by Burns11
                      Ian said he had a photographic memory, but he got too much wrong for that to be true. He didn't do any better than anyone else at the memory based comps.
                      What memory competition did he lose at? Cause the trivia one during double eviction episode(where he almost sent frank home), he won that, and the other competition(I think it was HOH?) where you had to get the correct number of days, he also won(but they made it harder, you could know the correct # of days,but you had to get the ball to roll into that number

                      One memory one he lost to Danielle, was cause it was more of a riddle based competition that also involved memory.

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                      • kingkilla56
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19395

                        #236
                        Re: Big Brother 14

                        I havent watched the show consistently since Frank was cut; so I may be way off. But Im so glad Ian won over Dan. While Dan may have been the most cunning and manipulative, it bit him in the *** when all the chips were down. There is a social game to Big Brother, its not all about competitions; you gotta make sure you get the people you want out with the least turbulence you can; and Ian played it well from what I saw.

                        You have to win over the votes of the people you screw over. Dan didn't. And it seems like Dan lost this more than Ian won it, making Ian's win even more amazing to me. I knew this geeky Big Brother fan was gonna go far once he started showing how in tune with the game he really was.
                        Last edited by kingkilla56; 09-21-2012, 11:56 PM.
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