Sons of Anarchy (Season 6)

[cbhock]

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So the shocking scene was the school shooting? My wife was much more disturbed by the graphic anal rape scene.

Overall, a good episode, not great. I hope they know where they are going with the story and don't try to throw too much into the plot that it gets muddled.

[jeremym480]

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Jus' sayin:

How to be a man in 2013

Halfway down: Nobody cares if you are offended, just stop.

LMAO

The writer of that article seems like a huge douchebag.

Sutter speaks:
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...ere-event.html

If he wanted to have a young boy do a shooting it would have been much more believable to have a boy accidentally shoot his own brother. The way they did it with the kid being psycho was just a flat out stupid idea.

[shugknight]

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Jus' sayin:

How to be a man in 2013

Halfway down: Nobody cares if you are offended, just stop.

LMAO

I'm glad you're getting advice on how to be a man on the internet.

And I wasn't offended. I found it distasteful and that is my OPINION on the scene. I thought it was a stupid decision by Sutter to use this type of scenario to try and paint his picture. He could have used a handful of other ones and still get the same effect. But he used this type of scenario for his benefit and that's what I find distasteful. He knew this would get a lot of talk, which it has, and thus gets more publicity for his show. If he had a special message about gun violence in schools at the end, then I can understand it.

If he wanted to have a young boy do a shooting it would have been much more believable to have a boy accidentally shoot his own brother. The way they did it with the kid being psycho was just a flat out stupid idea.

I understand that he's trying to relate the school shooting because Abel is the same age. But shooting a family member would have been even a better representation. You have a great example. An older brother (Abel) playing with a gun supplied by the MC and accidentally shoots his younger brother (Thomas)

[BlueNGold]

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I'm not one to get up in arms about something like this so it didn't bother me that much. It definitely left me with my mouth open saying "holy ****" though. Was not expecting it at all.

I can see why some people would be offended and I wouldn't disagree with them. I guess I'm just a little insensitive to that type of thing. Not an actual real life school shooting of course. I think I've just seen so many things and so many lines be crossed through TV, movies and video games that, while this still kind of took me back by what unfolded, in the end it was nothing too, too crazy from some other things I've seen before.

I realize the actual scene itself could still be considered disturbing, distasteful or whatever, but I think had they shown the actual act of the kid shooting other kids and teachers, then it would be an entirely different story, at least to me.

[TheMatrix31]

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I'm glad you're getting advice on how to be a man on the internet.

And I wasn't offended. I found it distasteful and that is my OPINION on the scene. I thought it was a stupid decision by Sutter to use this type of scenario to try and paint his picture. He could have used a handful of other ones and still get the same effect. But he used this type of scenario for his benefit and that's what I find distasteful. He knew this would get a lot of talk, which it has, and thus gets more publicity for his show. If he had a special message about gun violence in schools at the end, then I can understand it.



I understand that he's trying to relate the school shooting because Abel is the same age. But shooting a family member would have been even a better representation. You have a great example. An older brother (Abel) playing with a gun supplied by the MC and accidentally shoots his younger brother (Thomas)

I think that's what is settling in as what bothers me about this. It just seems out of place---forced in there. It was breathtaking and it created lots of attention, which is ultimately what they want, but it just seemed, I don't know, weird. If it was a story in which Abel shot Thomas and kills him, it would add so much of a personal layer to the story. If they were hell bent on the school shooting route, it could have been done by a person in a high school rather than a school for younger children. The shots of the diary were incredible though. Stylistically, that was fantastic.

I dunno, whatever.

[Beantown]

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If it was a story in which Abel shot Thomas and kills him, it would add so much of a personal layer to the story. If they were hell bent on the school shooting route, it could have been done by a person in a high school rather than a school for younger children.

The two things about that...this is the beginning of the final act of the story, which has to last two seasons. Having Abel shoot Thomas speeds that up too quickly. Zero chance, if that happens, that Jax doesn't just up and disband everything, right then and there. There's nothing, long-term storyline wise at least, to be gained from that. That's too quick of a burn. Having it just be a gun from the MC, with a child that has some family connections to the MC, allows them to have more of a slow burn in Jax's reaction and response to this entire thing (what the entire final act is going to be about, I'm sure).

And Sutter talked about why he didn't want to use a HS student: he wanted it to be closer to Jax's kids age and a HS student isn't as "impressionable," for lack of a better term as a younger kid is.


I get why people disagree with the scene's usefulness and it's execution, I just completely disagree.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The only thing I found "distasteful" were the blood splatters on the windows and that was just overtly tacky to me.

The diary, however, was amazing and unsettling. Much more than the actual scene I thought.


I was cheering Tara on when she was laying down some beats. Katey Segal is great and everything, but I can't wait until Gemma finally gets hers.

[Beantown]

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The only thing I found "distasteful" were the blood splatters on the windows and that was just overtly tacky to me.

The diary, however, was amazing and unsettling. Much more than the actual scene I thought.


I was cheering Tara on when she was laying down some beats. Katey Segal is great and everything, but I can't wait until Gemma finally gets hers.

I agree with this entire post. The blood spatter seemed very cheesy for such a powerful scene (especially after seeing the kid's arm all scarred up and then the diary).

And yeah, there is no one on this show right now, that I can think of, that I want to get what's coming to them more than Gemma. Clay is a close second.

This is one of the few shows I think I genuinely like most of the characters.

[TheMatrix31]

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So weird. This is a show where I feel like I don't really like any of the characters. I empathized with Opie but now he's gone and I don't particularly care for any of them.

Very odd.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I like Bobby and liked Piney during the Clay and Jax feuds. Half-sack was enjoyable, too, but well we know what happened there. Chibs seems to be loyal, but he seems easy to manipulate.

Tig I've come around on simply because he's not under Clay's thumb anymore.

Jax I'm starting to like less as he becomes more of a momma's boy and allows Gemma to manipulate him without question. Plus, he seems really easy to manipulate if you know which buttons to push.

[Beantown]

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I like Jax, Chibs , Tig, Bobby, Happy, Tara....

Basically I just don't like Gemma, Clay, and Juice.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I don't know how to feel about Otto. I know he's pretty ****ed up and really does some crazy ****, but he is damn dedicated to his cause.

[jeremym480]

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The way I feel about Clay is akin to how I feel about Kobe Bryant.

Kobe used to be on the top of the NBA, I hated the Laker's with every fiber of my being. Now the Lakers are a bottom of the West team, who would have to do go above and beyond to even make the playoffs. And when the do they're just going to get KO'ed in the first round.

Clay used to be one of my most hated characters on television today. However, the season where he killed Piney was basically his peak for me. Now he's just an old man, who's all alone and my hatred for him has pretty much diminished greatly. In my opinion, they should have had Jax or Opie kill him off two seasons ago instead of dragging it out like this. Maybe they'll do a 180 with his character and make him a threat again, but I just don't think I will ever hate him as much as I used to.

[AUChase]

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I don't know how to feel about Otto. I know he's pretty ****ed up and really does some crazy ****, but he is damn dedicated to his cause.

At this point it's not even about dedication.

I get the feeling he'll find a way to commit suicide before the system takes him out. He was hanging on for payback against the club and bobby and now that he's squashed the RICO case he has nothing to live for.

[TheMatrix31]

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The way I feel about Clay is akin to how I feel about Kobe Bryant.

Kobe used to be on the top of the NBA, I hated the Laker's with every fiber of my being. Now the Lakers are a bottom of the West team, who would have to do go above and beyond to even make the playoffs. And when the do they're just going to get KO'ed in the first round.

Clay used to be one of my most hated characters on television today. However, the season where he killed Piney was basically his peak for me. Now he's just an old man, who's all alone and my hatred for him has pretty much diminished greatly. In my opinion, they should have had Jax or Opie kill him off two seasons ago instead of dragging it out like this. Maybe they'll do a 180 with his character and make him a threat again, but I just don't think I will ever hate him as much as I used to.

Needless to say, I still hate Kobe with an unspeakable passion so that comparison doesn't work for me lol