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  • Quint75
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    • Jul 2002
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    #226
    Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

    Originally posted by 55
    Jesse is nothing more than a narc now and I really, really hope he dies.
    Was this your code when you were smelling smack on the street?

    Jesse is the only redeemable one of the whole bunch, IMO.
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    • Quint75
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      • Jul 2002
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      #227
      Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

      Am I the only one that is still not convinced about the whole turn of events due to Jesse noticing he was pick-pocketed by Huell? Even if it set off alarm bells for him, the doctors flat out told Jesse that the boy did NOT have ricin poisoning. Walt poisoned him with something from one of his plants, but Jesse does not know that. Seems all Walt would have to do is plead with Jesse to use his head, that is wasn't Walt because it wasn't ricin poisoning and because Walt tricked Jesse into thinking he recovered the lost ricin cigarette with his Roomba. All Walt has to cop to is setting up Jesse to believe it was Gus Fring that was responsible for poisoning the kids, not that Walt actually did it. I don't know...
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      • Psyblast
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        • Jun 2003
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        #228
        Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

        Originally posted by Quint75
        Am I the only one that is still not convinced about the whole turn of events due to Jesse noticing he was pick-pocketed by Huell? Even if it set off alarm bells for him, the doctors flat out told Jesse that the boy did NOT have ricin poisoning. Walt poisoned him with something from one of his plants, but Jesse does not know that. Seems all Walt would have to do is plead with Jesse to use his head, that is wasn't Walt because it wasn't ricin poisoning and because Walt tricked Jesse into thinking he recovered the lost ricin cigarette with his Roomba. All Walt has to cop to is setting up Jesse to believe it was Gus Fring that was responsible for poisoning the kids, not that Walt actually did it. I don't know...



        Well considering Saul copped to the whole thing when Jesse went back to his office and attacked him.....

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        • Quint75
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          • Jul 2002
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          #229
          Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

          Originally posted by Psyblast
          Well considering Saul copped to the whole thing when Jesse went back to his office and attacked him.....
          Saul copped to the pick-pocketing and the stealing of the ricin cigarette and therefore setting up Jesse to believe that Gus poisoned the boy, turning Jesse against Gus. He did not say that Walt poisoned the boy.

          And even if that is true, what you say, it still makes no sense for Jesse to believe Walt did it when HE knows it was not ricin poisoning. Just a weak spot, IMO.
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          • Psyblast
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            • Jun 2003
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            #230
            Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

            Originally posted by Quint75
            Saul copped to the pick-pocketing and the stealing of the ricin cigarette and therefore setting up Jesse to believe that Gus poisoned the boy, turning Jesse against Gus. He did not say that Walt poisoned the boy.

            And even if that is true, what you say, it still makes no sense for Jesse to believe Walt did it when HE knows it was not ricin poisoning. Just a weak spot, IMO.


            He said "Walt made me do it, I never would've agreed to it if I knew what he was going to do."

            There's no ambiguity in that statement.

            And you're missing the overall point. The whole key to Walt's defense was convincing Jesse that Huell DIDN'T take the ricin cigarette off of him, and that he simply lost it (hence the charade of planting the fake vial in Jesse's house). Once Jesse realized that Huell had lifted the weed off of him, it finally occurred to him that Huell HAD taken the cigarettes before, and thus Walt had been lying to him the whole time.

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            • Quint75
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              • Jul 2002
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              #231
              Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

              Originally posted by Psyblast
              He said "Walt made me do it, I never would've agreed to it if I knew what he was going to do."

              There's no ambiguity in that statement.
              Sure there is. "I never would have done it if I'd have known he was going to use you to get to Gus to kill him."


              Originally posted by Psyblast
              And you're missing the overall point. The whole key to Walt's defense was convincing Jesse that Huell DIDN'T take the ricin cigarette off of him, and that he simply lost it (hence the charade of planting the fake vial in Jesse's house). Once Jesse realized that Huell had lifted the weed off of him, it finally occurred to him that Huell HAD taken the cigarettes before, and thus Walt had been lying to him the whole time.
              Agreed in part, but Walt could have sold Jesse that the lie was to get Jesse to side with Walt against Gus. Walt could say he has no idea what happened to the kid, but once it presented itself, he took advantage of it. He could definitely sell it; he's the best liar in the world. And Jesse could easily believe it because he knows what a manipulative bastard Walt is, so using a kids illness to get his way would be right up his alley.

              I agree it's iffy, but then so is the whole thing about Jesse immediately thinking Walt poisoned the boy with the cigarette or whatever when he KNOWS it was not ricin poisoning that caused the boys illness.
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              • TCM
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                #232
                Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

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                • kt-od
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                  • Feb 2008
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                  #233
                  Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                  I wonder if Jesse seeks out Badger and Skinny Pete to help him again, or maybe Hank comes after them for help in nailing Walt? I'm thinking that Jesse is done helping Hank, and is going alone at Walt (and uses Badger and Skinny Pete here).
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                  • TCM
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                    • Jun 2011
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                    #234
                    Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                    Jesse knows how inept Badger and Skinny Pete are, so I doubt that.
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                    • 55
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                      • Mar 2006
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                      #235
                      Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                      Originally posted by TCM
                      Jesse knows how inept Badger and Skinny Pete are, so I doubt that.
                      Agreed, but I do hope we get to see them one more time since I have always enjoyed those characters.

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                      • Redacted01
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                        #236
                        Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                        I just want to see another giant pizza.

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                        • SuperBowlNachos
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                          • Jul 2004
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                          #237
                          Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                          Does anyone have that picture that shows Walt as his counter and Gus standing at his to show the comparison between the two? I saw it earlier in this thread I thought, but now it's avoiding me.

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                          • mikenoob
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                            • Oct 2007
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                            #238
                            Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                            Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
                            Does anyone have that picture that shows Walt as his counter and Gus standing at his to show the comparison between the two? I saw it earlier in this thread I thought, but now it's avoiding me.
                            Originally posted by mikenoob


                            I think this also applies to the Walt/Gus thing.



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                            • Candyman5
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                              #239
                              Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                              Ok I immediately clicked new post and didnt read a damn thing but I have missed the last 2 episodes due to life. Really busy. Could somebody please PM me a way I could watch those said 2 episodes?
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                              • Weeks
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                                #240
                                Re: Breaking Bad: The Final 8 - (premieres 8/11/13)

                                Originally posted by Candyman5
                                Ok I immediately clicked new post and didnt read a damn thing but I have missed the last 2 episodes due to life. Really busy. Could somebody please PM me a way I could watch those said 2 episodes?
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