The Flash

[Majingir]

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In case anyone forgot, show returns tonight

I remember Superman Underoos, didn't know they had Flash ones.

I just got it as a casual type shirt, not getting the long sleeve or pants that comes with it. Ebay was only place I could even find anything like that. All other stores I looked only seemed to just have a generic Flash top(plain red one with cartoon flash logo)

[notsobabybombers]

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Strong episode. Need to process it a little bit but I liked it.

[Majingir]

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Ya, interesting episode:

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The court stuff was weak to me(people just coming in and out of courtroom as they please, and the ridiculous Barry "I have to go" stuff in the middle of his own trial). lol, did Cecile even try helping Barry in that? Just seemed like it was the other guy going all in, and her just having like 1 or 2 points. Then was like "admit you're the flash". That's her entire defense lol.


With that ending, at least now we have a unique "how will Barry get out of this one" story. Cool moment at the end showing Barry is in the same cell as his dad.

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So Barry leaves Iris and for a dumb reason leaves her again




Then says he wants to protect her and the team........

but can't do that or protect the city from a jail cell

[notsobabybombers]

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Ya, interesting episode:

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The court stuff was weak to me(people just coming in and out of courtroom as they please, and the ridiculous Barry "I have to go" stuff in the middle of his own trial). lol, did Cecile even try helping Barry in that? Just seemed like it was the other guy going all in, and her just having like 1 or 2 points. Then was like "admit you're the flash". That's her entire defense lol.


With that ending, at least now we have a unique "how will Barry get out of this one" story. Cool moment at the end showing Barry is in the same cell as his dad.

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Yeah, pretty weak trial scene(s.) The photographs, which wound up not helping at all, wouldn't have been allowed into evidence. Cecile is a bad lawyer. Can't believe Barry refused to testify. Not speaking for yourself at all probably looks awful to the jury. Way too much of a coincidence that he got his father's cell. Barry is definitely in a tough spot now, so I'm interested to see how he'll get out.

I liked how Iris was being realistic, saying being positive won't be enough this time and questioning whether they will get through it.

Curious to see if Mrs. Devoe's question of "what are you willing to do for your husband, Iris?" pays off. The scene with Ralph and Joe about to break into Devoe's house was good, it showed some real growth for Ralph's character.

As I watched it, I thought: watch Earth 15 not be a dead earth and sending all that energy there will come back to haunt them.

I liked the parallelism at the end of the judge talking about Barry's crimes and Captain Singh praising The Flash.

I liked the episode. It wasn't perfect but I liked it.

Also, I'd love a spinoff of Cisco and Harry as a buddy-cop kinda show with them dealing with Metas and other threats. Won't happen but I can dream.

[JayBee74]

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So Barry leaves Iris and for a dumb reason leaves her again

Then says he wants to protect her and the team........

but can't do that or protect the city from a jail

Yeah, but you can't avoid the argument of maintaining a secret identity to protect people close to you. As flimsy as that argument sometimes is (how many bad guys know Barry's secret?) it still remains a superhero staple. It also gives the writers a decent reason not to take the easy way out.

Not going to "Unspoil" Majingir's spoiler tag, but any criticism of the realism of the courthouse going-ons or the proceedings is dwarfed by the expedience of the judicial system in the matter of getting Barry to a full-on trial. Almost immediately his case is tried without benefit of even a preliminary hearing (even Perry Mason was realistic in that regard) thus giving Cecile about two minutes to prepare. LOL. Having said that she did give up rather easily when the Thinker's wife blubbered an excuse about having an affair.

Not perfect but I loved the episode. The contrast at the end with the "greatest hero" and "scumbag murderer" was spot on.

If you're not a big Ralph fan you probably won't

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like next week's episode.

[notsobabybombers]

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Yeah, but you can't avoid the argument of maintaining a secret identity to protect people close to you. As flimsy as that argument sometimes is (how many bad guys know Barry's secret?) it still remains a superhero staple. It also gives the writers a decent reason not to take the easy way out.

Not going to "Unspoil" Majingir's spoiler tag, but any criticism of the realism of the courthouse going-ons or the proceedings is dwarfed by the expedience of the judicial system in the matter of getting Barry to a full-on trial. Almost immediately his case is tried without benefit of even a preliminary hearing (even Perry Mason was realistic in that regard) thus giving Cecile about two minutes to prepare. LOL. Having said that she did give up rather easily when the Thinker's wife blubbered an excuse about having an affair.

Not perfect but I loved the episode. The contrast at the end with the "greatest hero" and "scumbag murderer" was spot on.

If you're not a big Ralph fan you probably won't

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like next week's episode.

I completely overlooked that. Good point. But she did give up way too easily. She didn't even have Team Flash testify on Barry's behalf.

I really didn't like Ralph, but he grew on me due to that scene with Joe this past episode.

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Yeah, but you can't avoid the argument of maintaining a secret identity to protect people close to you. As flimsy as that argument sometimes is (how many bad guys know Barry's secret?) it still remains a superhero staple. It also gives the writers a decent reason not to take the easy way out.

Not going to "Unspoil" Majingir's spoiler tag, but any criticism of the realism of the courthouse going-ons or the proceedings is dwarfed by the expedience of the judicial system in the matter of getting Barry to a full-on trial. Almost immediately his case is tried without benefit of even a preliminary hearing (even Perry Mason was realistic in that regard) thus giving Cecile about two minutes to prepare. LOL. Having said that she did give up rather easily when the Thinker's wife blubbered an excuse about having an affair.

Not perfect but I loved the episode. The contrast at the end with the "greatest hero" and "scumbag murderer" was spot on.

If you're not a big Ralph fan you probably won't

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like next week's episode.

Honestly I think they did it just to set up what they've already put out there, meaning:

He's already mumbled something in the first episode about being in jail

Another episode showed him in jail in a flashback moment when traveling through time.

It's just that how it sounds like the easy way out, the way they even set up the case was ridiculously unrealistic.

Oh ill go home and check the alarm... sees a dead body... Oh I'll just "not run"

Goes to trial "not gonna take a plea because im innocent" but

"i wont do what it takes to stay out"

When Iris tries "nah Iris you can't tell, just let me leave again even though I told you i'd never leave you again"

In a way his decision was selfish.

Biggest hero in the city by day and night and he lets a liar get him locked away.... so while they're presenting an award to the flash...he mysteriously disappears for some reason?

...but he said he was protecting Iris and the team... what's he gonna do from that cell... vibrate out when a meta goes wild then break back in when he's done?

I love this season and this show, but sometimes the writers trip over their own feet.

[JayBee74]

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In a way his decision was selfish.

I see why you might say that but I think it boils down to Barry being a goody two shoes.

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I see why you might say that but I think it boils down to Barry being a goody two shoes.

Yeah and its sickening JayBee lol

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[JayBee74]

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I really didn't like Ralph, but he grew on me due to that scene with Joe this past episode.

I liked him before that but that was a great scene. Ralph's maturity

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continues based on the previews as he is front and center.

[Speedy]

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I see why you might say that but I think it boils down to Barry being a goody two shoes.

I'm ok with Barry.

Iris is getting a bit annoying to me this season. What happened to being a reporter? Why does she flip flop in attitude seemingly every episode? I'm still baffled how she is in the forefront of everything in leading teams, whether it's team flash or even the "girls nite".

I almost liked her being naive like in S1 + S2. I say we need more Joe, not more Iris.

[notsobabybombers]

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I'm ok with Barry.

Iris is getting a bit annoying to me this season. What happened to being a reporter? Why does she flip flop in attitude seemingly every episode? I'm still baffled how she is in the forefront of everything in leading teams, whether it's team flash or even the "girls nite".

I almost liked her being naive like in S1 + S2. I say we need more Joe, not more Iris.

Agreed. This drives me nuts.

[Majingir]

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Something about season 4s which cause lead female to get so much hate. This was exact season people started turning on felicity too. Specifically from moment after people though they died but didn't. Completely changed attitude and show just started being all about her and most others seemed like secondary characters.

[JayBee74]

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Something about season 4s which cause lead female to get so much hate. This was exact season people started turning on felicity too. Specifically from moment after people though they died but didn't. Completely changed attitude and show just started being all about her and most others seemed like secondary characters.

I'm more with Iris as the daughter of Joe than as defacto manager of Team Flash or even wife of Barry. I find her more of a pleasing character than a compelling one which made last season's drama with Savitor even more grueling to watch.