New HBO Series True Detective (McConaughey and Harrelson)

[DirtyHawks12]

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[QUOTE=LionsFanNJ;2045980934]I never thought the shows focus was the crime, partially because its an anthology and who knows what the next locale/case takes us, and partially because were getting what two disparate world views do when they're forced to come together.

I don't know if I'm explaining that right...

I hear what you're saying. The crime is an important part of the show but the main attraction is the path each character takes over the course of time. What got them to their current state and the role the murders played in getting them there.

It also seems that things are only going to get worse for Marty and he will eventually end up in the same place Rust is at. What a show!

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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That's what I concluded when they started talking about the flat circle stuff. There is definitely an evil monster on the loose and I think they might reveal them catching him or possibly not. It doesn't really matter, the most important piece of the story is how Rust got from point A to point B. I would imagine we'll see some crazy stuff next week that drover Rust over the edge.

The tone of the show has been very slow paced except for the last half of episode 4. I just can't see the last 2 episodes going balls out at a frenetic pace to tie up all the loose ends. Its just not styled that way. I expect this meeting with Rusty and Marty to probably take up 20 minutes of the next episode, giving us a sublime summary of the last 10 years. I have no clue what to expect and its very refreshing for a TV show to have such an unorthodox approach.

[fistofrage]

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I never thought the shows focus was the crime, partially because its an anthology and who knows what the next locale/case takes us, and partially because were getting what two disparate world views do when they're forced to come together.

I don't know if I'm explaining that right...

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I also think this series might be even better appreciated on the second viewing. It has to do with the whole flat circle theory. You can't watch this show from a perspective of I wonder what happens next or what could the main characters have done differently, because they did what they did and do what they do over and over again.

I really wonder though why Hart shoots Eddie Ledoux. Eddie knew what was going to happen before it happened. Cohle, should have known it too, he's been there 100 times, but didn't realize until later. But anyway, back to Hart. It seems a little out of character for him to just go shoot Ledoux. He could have tortured him for more information or to avenged those little kids that were in the trailer. Beat the living crap out of him like he did to the two kids that were with his daughter. A bullet to the head seems like an awful kind thing to do to Ledoux. Could have made him feel monumental pain first. All killing him did was hide potential facts from Cohle. Almost like Hart wanted the trail to stop there that day.

Another interesting thing is before Hart and Cohle fought, Hart made sure he didn't have anything on him that he could use to Kill Cohle with because he knew he was seeing red and he might actually kill him if things were to escalate. Now when Cohle pulls him over at the side of the road, he makes sure he has his gun ready like he may have to kill him.

[gopher_guy]

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One of the radio shows here in Minneapolis lifted a quote from the episode last night to have on their button bar.

Marty: “I caught zero logic in all of that. And the last bit? Pure gibberish.”

They had fun with it this morning

[JayBee74]

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One of the radio shows here in Minneapolis lifted a quote from the episode last night to have on their button bar.

Marty: “I caught zero logic in all of that. And the last bit? Pure gibberish.”

They had fun with it this morning

That was funny. That was said in part because Marty had been severely dissed by Rust earlier.

[fistofrage]

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Some good lines in the show last night. Looking forward to the finale. The table is set.

[jeremym480]

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The more and more I think about it, the more I'm beginning to think that Rust is the Yellow King.

My theory

Spoiler

He keeps saying about how thing go in a circle or whatever.
Well, we know that back in '95 Rust fed Marty all of the evidence to get them to Ledoux and he seems to be doing the same thing again in present day.I guess the question would be why would he be doing this then? Does he plan on setting up Tuttle or Marty or perhaps he doesn't even know that he is the killer? Maybe there's some Fight Club-esqe multiple personalities going on?

With that said, I think that if I had to choose between Rust or Marty as the killer, I would prefer it to be Marty. I think that would be more shocking, although either would be shocking at this point. However, with Marty if he was basically playing Rust this whole time and is actually some diabolical cult leader, then that would be fun to watch.

Hell, even as I'm typing this I keep flipping back and fourth between which of those two I think it is... Originally I hated the idea of one of them being involved, but now I think that if the Yellow King is Tuttle or Scarface/Lawnmower man I'm going to be a little bit disappointed.

[Bmore Irish]

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I think everything has to be taken at face value at this point.

We pretty much have all the evidence laid out for us right now.

Spoiler

There's a lot of people involved in this, powerful people, as they've alluded to all season, and now Rust has hard evidence that Billy Lee Tuttle was definitely a ringleader, and used his church outreach program as a way to get to victims.

The evidence strongly suggests that a very long line of Tuttles, and some Ledouxs, have taken part in this twisted family tradition, and this would seem to be confirmed by the scar-faced man's final line of the episode (which was pretty chilling btw, along with the scenes in Rust's evidence storage room).

Reverend Tuttle is now dead anyway, perhaps killed by someone who doesn't want him getting caught, so the scar-faced man (who I believe is an illegitimate Ledoux or Tuttle son?) is their top target as he has been referenced to by multiple victims. I'm not sure how this season/story is going to end, but I feel fairly certain that it will not be a crazy twist where Rust or Marty is in on it, though we may find out just how far-reaching the corruption is.

So anyway, those are my thoughts.

[gopher_guy]

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I thought the reveal of Scar face guy was fantastic. With the setting sun behind him so you can't really make out his face, then the camera pans and the scars come in to focus. It was definitely an "oh ****!" moment for me!

[ipitythafool25]

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I think everything has to be taken at face value at this point.

We pretty much have all the evidence laid out for us right now.

Spoiler

There's a lot of people involved in this, powerful people, as they've alluded to all season, and now Rust has hard evidence that Billy Lee Tuttle was definitely a ringleader, and used his church outreach program as a way to get to victims.

The evidence strongly suggests that a very long line of Tuttles, and some Ledouxs, have taken part in this twisted family tradition, and this would seem to be confirmed by the scar-faced man's final line of the episode (which was pretty chilling btw, along with the scenes in Rust's evidence storage room).

Reverend Tuttle is now dead anyway, perhaps killed by someone who doesn't want him getting caught, so the scar-faced man (who I believe is an illegitimate Ledoux or Tuttle son?) is their top target as he has been referenced to by multiple victims. I'm not sure how this season/story is going to end, but I feel fairly certain that it will not be a crazy twist where Rust or Marty is in on it, though we may find out just how far-reaching the corruption is.

So anyway, those are my thoughts.

I'm in agreement with you. Some of the crazy ideas out there (while interesting) I just don't see coming to play. I think that pretty much all the major players have been named, now it's just connecting all the dots. I do not see some huge twist coming with either Rust or Marty. Perhaps a smaller shocker with someone else, but I think our two lead detectives are pretty much who they are

[Bmore Irish]

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I'm in agreement with you. Some of the crazy ideas out there (while interesting) I just don't see coming to play. I think that pretty much all the major players have been named, now it's just connecting all the dots. I do not see some huge twist coming with either Rust or Marty. Perhaps a smaller shocker with someone else, but I think our two lead detectives are pretty much who they are

Right. And that's a huge part of this show and it's appeal, at least for me; yes, there's this crazy case with all kinds of questions and connections, truly a whodunit, but what sets it apart are the unique protagonists and how they handle this life-changing case, as well as each other. Rust Cohle is up there in my favorite tv characters of all time.

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[fistofrage]

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I thought the reveal of Scar face guy was fantastic. With the setting sun behind him so you can't really make out his face, then the camera pans and the scars come in to focus. It was definitely an "oh ****!" moment for me!

And the fact he was mowing in a circle with just a little bit left unfinished. Pretty good scene although he really doesn't look like a spaghetti monster. Would have thought the scars would have been more pronounced.

[kingkilla56]

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I finally caught up after jumping ship on episode 2. All I can say is, Maggy's butt tho!


Also the acting in incredible. I forget Woody and Matt are even actors. They've completely absorbed their characters.

[Bmore Irish]

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Yeah, the blood runs deep in this one. There's gonna be some kind of huge showdown next week, there's way too many connections in high places in this case for things not to get crazy. All kinds of cover-ups and corruption, and that's just the light side of it.

Edit: I'm still wondering whether the two detectives who are currently on the case are part of the cover-up or not.

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[ODogg]

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Is next week a one hour finale or two hour finale?