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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
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    #541
    Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

    Originally posted by Boltman
    Yes I've read the Miller issues, I have them all.

    I know this film draws inspiration from those issues. I'm talking film as opposed to comics.

    And I'm aware of the weakened thing, but do we know if that narrative is being used in this film?

    I guess it could be, it's got to be something to make it believable after all.
    Originally posted by Leon
    This isn't The Dark Knight Returns though. Introduce kryptonite, or magic, or that armor better be made of something kryptonian or whatever.

    Let's face it, there is no chance in any interpretation for Batman to beat Superman in a FAIR FIGHT. Even in the comics, Superman pretty much holds himself back because he's friends with Bruce. They won't have the same history in this movie, but I really don't see them going down the route of unmerciful Superman once again. If they did, that means they don't have a grasp of the character.
    I was simply suggesting that the story line would be or probably be heavily drawn from the comic. Something working for batman in his favor. That we don't know about. I think the Frank Miller comic is the best for real life.
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    • AshamanCarnage
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      • Jul 2006
      • 1252

      #542
      Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

      Originally posted by Boltman
      Yes I've read the Miller issues, I have them all.

      I know this film draws inspiration from those issues. I'm talking film as opposed to comics.

      And I'm aware of the weakened thing, but do we know if that narrative is being used in this film?

      I guess it could be, it's got to be something to make it believable after all.
      What are you expecting them to do? Just have them fist fight and have Batman hold his own without having some type of advantage?

      Yes it is a film and not the comics, but I'm not sure what that has to do with them being able to to tell a story of that nature.

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      • jfsolo
        Live Action, please?
        • May 2003
        • 12965

        #543
        Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

        It won't happen because it's not dramatic or "actioney" enough, but I personally would much rather have a first meeting that is similar to John Byrne's post Crisis of Infinite Earth's encounter, where Batman creates a "hostage" situation that prevents Superman from just taking him out in .2 seconds. This to me is way better than any kind of fight, but I know that that kind of thing is too much of a slow burn for a 3 hour film.
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47565

          #544
          Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

          Originally posted by jfsolo
          It won't happen because it's not dramatic or "actioney" enough, but I personally would much rather have a first meeting that is similar to John Byrne's post Crisis of Infinite Earth's encounter, where Batman creates a "hostage" situation that prevents Superman from just taking him out in .2 seconds. This to me is way better than any kind of fight, but I know that that kind of thing is too much of a slow burn for a 3 hour film.
          Batman create a hostage situation. What the hell?.... Batman hurting people. I don't think so. Batman isn't that dark.
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          • jfsolo
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            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #545
            Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            Batman create a hostage situation. What the hell?.... Batman hurting people. I don't think so. Batman isn't that dark.
            The quotes around hostage are very important, because no one else was actually in any danger, only himself, he tricked Supes, to keep him at bay long enough for him to realize that they were really on the same side.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47565

              #546
              Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              The quotes around hostage are very important, because no one else was actually in any danger, only himself, he tricked Supes, to keep him at bay long enough for him to realize that they were really on the same side.
              Oh I see what your saying. Sorry I must of miss that. Thanks for explaining.
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              • Cutter15
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                • Oct 2010
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                #547
                Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                So this "fair fight" some of you are suggesting is regular old dude Bruce Wayne against invincible, immortal god-like thing, Superman? Yeah let's not give the human any advantages. Make it a fair fight, lol.
                Besides, how does regular dude Tony Stark survive fights with demigods Thor and Loki? It's a movie based on comic books, just enjoy it.
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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
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                  #548
                  Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                  Originally posted by Cutter15
                  So this "fair fight" some of you are suggesting is regular old dude Bruce Wayne against invincible, immortal god-like thing, Superman? Yeah let's not give the human any advantages. Make it a fair fight, lol.
                  Who said it was a fair fight for either sides?
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                  • AshamanCarnage
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                    • Jul 2006
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                    #549
                    Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    Who said it was a fair fight for either sides?
                    Someone earlier posted that there is no interpretation where Batman could win in a fair fight. Which as pointed out already, how is fighting one on one with a god like being a fair fight?

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                    • Leon
                      An Old Trafford
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4981

                      #550
                      Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                      Originally posted by Cutter15
                      So this "fair fight" some of you are suggesting is regular old dude Bruce Wayne against invincible, immortal god-like thing, Superman? Yeah let's not give the human any advantages. Make it a fair fight, lol.
                      Besides, how does regular dude Tony Stark survive fights with demigods Thor and Loki? It's a movie based on comic books, just enjoy it.
                      Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
                      Someone earlier posted that there is no interpretation where Batman could win in a fair fight. Which as pointed out already, how is fighting one on one with a god like being a fair fight?
                      He has specific types of armor for whoever he fights. When it comes to Batman fighting Superman, Batman has armor,
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                      Basically, writers have to come up with all these contrivances to put Batman over Superman and it's just tired and lame because of course Batman has to win because "He's Batman."

                      I'd really much rather have them debate over their ideologies and become best friends.
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                      • Candyman5
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                        • Nov 2006
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                        #551
                        Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                        Originally posted by Leon
                        He has specific types of armor for whoever he fights. When it comes to Batman fighting Superman, Batman has armor,
                        Spoiler


                        Basically, writers have to come up with all these contrivances to put Batman over Superman and it's just tired and lame because of course Batman has to win because "He's Batman."

                        I'd really much rather have them debate over their ideologies and become best friends.
                        But the thing is he makes sure the kryptonite he uses is diluted enough to pass through supes system. He even says that he could of killed him if he wanted to but wanted supes to remember that he was the one who beat him, a mere man.
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                        • TripleCrown9
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                          • May 2010
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                          #552
                          Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                          Originally posted by Leon
                          He has specific types of armor for whoever he fights. When it comes to Batman fighting Superman, Batman has armor,
                          Spoiler


                          Basically, writers have to come up with all these contrivances to put Batman over Superman and it's just tired and lame because of course Batman has to win because "He's Batman."

                          I'd really much rather have them debate over their ideologies and become best friends.
                          That would make a terrible 2 hour movie.
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                          • Cutter15
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                            • Oct 2010
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                            #553
                            Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                            Y'all get too worked up over Batman "beating" your beloved.
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                            • Beantown
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                              • Feb 2005
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                              #554
                              Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                              Originally posted by Cutter15
                              Y'all get too worked up over Batman "beating" your beloved.

                              I do love the argument that Batman being smart enough to use Supermans one weakness against him is a contrived way by the writers to have him win.

                              Do people not take advantage of their opponents weaknesses anymore?

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47565

                                #555
                                Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

                                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                                That would make a terrible 2 hour movie.
                                I'm asking you and people of this forum. Have you seen or read Frank Miller The Dark Knight Returns? Because it explains a lot of what might happen in this movie. Especially using the Cold War as a plot pusher. But I'm sure that will probably be changed. I don't know what's in the movie. But don't get to serious about one trailer.
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