Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

[Blzer]

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It was the kryptonite that weakened his cells. Yep movie sucked. Wb fudged themselves when they choose sack Snyder as director. It's going all downhill from here. Should just reboot now. There numbers are going to blow if they keep making shart movies. I hope the studio takes Snyder completely out of this mess and backs a big truck of money up to Nolan, Abrams, whedon or any director that's not an awful one who has proven they can make a good move. End rant

Though let's be fair, Nolan's Bat-universe doesn't belong with Superman and any other... dare I say "superhuman" elements.

Their biggest mistake still remains to be an early explosion rather than a build-up. The one thing I fail to understand is why everybody says that DC is trying to "catch up to Marvel." I know what you're saying and I'm sure that it's true, but I don't understand why there needs to be any catching up. They could do this thirty years from now, and it won't be any different. It's not like technology, it's just a set of films. I just never quite understood why they felt they needed to rush.

The main reason I was against this film when it was initially announced was because I didn't want there to be another Batman for a while. I wanted Nolan's Batman to be the "definition of" in the film market and let it sit in for a while, then eventually they could reboot him with another vision... but not just four years down the road. Oh well, it happened. Batman was cool, too. It's a shame the movie he was in wasn't that cool.

[mestevo]

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$52.4m this weekend, a WB exec suggested that the drop could be in part because not as many kids were off for Spring Break.

http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/box-office-batman-v-superman-1201744334/

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[Jm0ney2001]

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Yes. I hope it continues to bomb. I mean as much as a movie that's already made 500 million can anyway..

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Jmoney acting like Zack Snyder stole his girl at prom.


I walked out after the movie Saturday night really not understanding the major negativity surrounding this movie. It wasn't great, but it certainly wasn't this terrible mess that people have made it out to be. My only complaint was that this movie should have been split into two separate entries. There's a lot of potential here with many of the elements. The movie's first act does a great job of introducing and initially building everything up, but after that its a quick rush to get to the end which really has no emotional punch or buildup yet.

I would have loved a whole movie devoted to building up Superman as an actual force of good and an reluctant (and reluctantly accepted) hero. Batman was alright even if he was kind of bumbling through the detective motions and allowing himself to be played, but Affleck was great in the role. Wonder Woman was a BAMF even with the sparse amount of speaking lines.

I don't get the vitriol this thing is making some people spew. I kept waiting for it all to click, but I left dumbfounded. Even Lex Luthor wasn't *that* bad. From some of the comments its like this film reached out during the movie and stole everybody's first born.

[TripleCrown9]

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My only complaint is I wish Doomsday was wearing pants and that his armor was bigger.

[greenegt]

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Finally saw this. There are a lot of cool things in the movie, but it suffered from being overwrought with story elements and not enough time to flesh out the narrative.

I thought (NEW!) Lex was fine, but there wasn't enough there to connect with his character. His motivations are a mystery to us.

I love Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, but am not feeling her theme music.

I like Cavill and Affleck as Superman and Batman.

I liked the teases of the other JL members.

The characters are there and I'm excited to see the DCCU continue. We just need more fleshed out and focused movies going forward. I think Suicide Squad will be a good next step.

[DieHardYankee26]

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It's simple. For all the people who don't understand why people are upset it's simple: This is a movie people have been envisioning their whole lives and many never thought they would see. Then the Marvel universe takes off and it becomes clear that this dream will be a reality. Then after waiting your entire life for this movie, it's nothing like you wanted. It's jumbled. They didn't take the time to flesh out your favorite characters who've existed for 80 years. They made Lex Luther the Riddler.



People are upset because this movie was supposed to be an easy slam dunk fan service film and people don't think they even pulled that off. If you don't understand why people don't like this movie, remember when the prequels came out. Movies that don't live up to the hype get crushed, and this was the most anticipated movie maybe in the history of comic book movies.



People are saying they don't understand why people didn't like it and then saying "well this part wasn't terrible" or "well this wasn't that bad". What kind of review is that? The defense of the movie largely isn't that it's good, more that it's not as bad as other people think it is. That's not good for the movie.

[Graphik]

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Based off reviews, it seems true fans of the comics don't like the film. Very much understood. I'm not much of a comic fan so the movie was decent to me. I do agree that these movies could have been made into 2 separate entries but I understand that they want to rush into the JL movies. No problems here. I don't want to have to wait 2-3 more years for that to happen. Plenty of DC characters to introduce us to in the future.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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That's not what I said. I can understand the disappointment and why people don't like it. There's plenty that could have been improved upon. That stuff doesn't bother me. What perplexes me is just how overly dramatic and over-the-top the negativity is. Frankly, I'm not surprised it was reviewed negatively and not embraced. There's been so much negativity surrounding the production from the get-go that it never had a chance to be anything else. I will fully admit this is not a great movie. It has many good things going on and most of them are never fully realized and limps through an awkward conclusion. I still ultimately enjoyed it.

Even though I felt the movie was rushed and over-packed - the minute all 3 started fighting on screen I got excited and giddy.

If people want to **** in their drawers over a film and act like they were insulted on a personal level then that's cool, but I just don't get it.

[DieHardYankee26]

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What's not to get is my question? People wanted a great movie, they didn't get one, they're upset. What's the difference between this and anything else people on the internet don't like? People here aren't threatening Zack Snyder's life or wanting bad things to happen to him, they just think he made a **** movie.



And speaking on the opinion before the movie, it's telling that people knew it would be bad before it came out because we've been watching superhero movies try to throw in the kitchen sink since Spider-Man 3, we know it doesn't work. Once it became clear that DC was rushing the universe on top of the fact that Man of Steel was poorly reviewed, and the director of that was still doing this, optimism died for a lot of people.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I just didn't see this as some steaming, heaping pile of **** like the "consensus" did. That's all I'm saying.

[TripleCrown9]

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People that were expecting it to be bad went into the theatre solely to take note of everything they did wrong.

People that were expecting it to be good went into the theatre to take note of everything they did right.

And then there were people like me that went into the theatre with no expectations other than seeing a comic book movie that included the DC Holy Trinity, and that's what we got.

[Graphik]

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People that were expecting it to be bad went into the theatre solely to take note of everything they did wrong.

People that were expecting it to be good went into the theatre to take note of everything they did right.

And then there were people like me that went into the theatre with no expectations other than seeing a comic book movie that included the DC Holy Trinity, and that's what we got.

Basically. People want Marvel style build up with a trilogy of movies. With the number of movies they plan to release over the next 2 years, everything should fall into place nicely. There are a plethora of characters that still need to be introduced. No sense in focusing solely on 1 or 2 of them at this point. My guess like others have mentioned is DC is playing catch up.

[mestevo]

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Yes. I hope it continues to bomb. I mean as much as a movie that's already made 500 million can anyway..

Reportedly needs to make about $925m to turn a profit theatrically.

Similarly it has been reported previously that the last Avengers movie was a relative failure in the eyes of Disney with a box office take of $1.4b.

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[Leon]

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My only gripe is when people say it's a bad movie because "so and so happened without any explanation" when it's literally in the movie why so and so happened. The most common being

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Batman immediately knowing Martha's location while Superman is so stupid for not being able to find her. He hacked the Russian's (aka KGBeast) phone earlier in the film; Lex literally called the Russian while inside the Kryptonian ship when Superman flew in to give the order to burn Martha but it's Batman who answers instead. Alfred then traces the Russian's phone and gives Batman the location.

I couldn't care less about changing anyone's opinion, but when someone complains about the story or plot-holes but its literally in the film, well, that's not really the film's fault if you're not paying attention.