Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

[youvalss]

Re: Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

Nice trailer, though Wonder Woman looked like she didn't belong there.

One thing that always bothered me: What's going on with the yellow "S" symbol on the cape? It was there in the older Superman movies. Is it not supposed to be there?

[Leon]

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Nice trailer, though Wonder Woman looked like she didn't belong there.

One thing that always bothered me: What's going on with the yellow "S" symbol on the cape? It was there in the older Superman movies. Is it not supposed to be there?

The comics usually have an S on the cape. For the most part, it's a design choice and not really a requirement.

[BlueNGold]

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Comparison of the Man of Steel fight scene to Bruce's perspective of it in BvS

[JayBee74]

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Comparison of the Man of Steel fight scene to Bruce's perspective of it in BvS

Who's doing the heat vision thing inside, through and up the building? Bruce thinks it's Superman, right?

[BlueNGold]

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Who's doing the heat vision thing inside, through and up the building? Bruce thinks it's Superman, right?

Pretty sure it's Zod, and yeah, I'm guessing Bruce thinks it's Superman.

[Sinner]

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Comparison of the Man of Steel fight scene to Bruce's perspective of it in BvS

That's cool an forgot about that scene in MOS but the start of where the beam is coming from changes from level to level in BVS while Zod was on one level in MOS...If I explained that right.

Not a big deal just something I noticed

[jeebs9]

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That suit with the writing on it is Jason Todd's Robin suit.

I love how people don't know about this story line.

Really interested in what this scene/setting is all about

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Thinking the second one could be Wonder Woman-related?

Also, this is glorious:

I've been trying to put my finger on a it. And can't think of one thing.

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[Sinner]

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Really interested in what this scene/setting is all about

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Thinking the second one could be Wonder Woman-related?

Also, this is glorious:

As many times as I've seen this trailer

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I didn't notice that those men had a Superman emblem on their uniform. Maybe it's a flash of how Batman thinks it could be when he was talking about how Superman has the power to wipe out the earth or something to that effect. Now I'm also very interested in finding out more about that

[jeebs9]

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And I'm having trouble figuring out just how Wonder woman fits into this story.

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[OSUFan_88]

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As many times as I've seen this trailer

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I didn't notice that those men had a Superman emblem on their uniform. Maybe it's a flash of how Batman thinks it could be when he was talking about how Superman has the power to wipe out the earth or something to that effect. Now I'm also very interested in finding out more about that

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I took it as a gang warfare type thing, perhaps after it's clear that there are guys on both sides of the isle.

It clearly doesn't look like Affleck to me, so I assume that maybe this becomes a bigger conflict than what we anticipate. I also believe that at some point, Lex Luther will influence Bruce Wayne into taking action against Superman. Or at least it would make sense, no? Two billionaires with hate for this alien combine forces to try and stop him?

IDK. I'm actually kind of interested in this story now, especially with the addressing of the MoS destruction and how that affected the universe.

[BlueNGold]

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And I'm having trouble figuring out just how Wonder woman fits into this story.

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This poster on reddit attempted to outline the story and does a pretty damn convicing job of it. I'm almost weary that he's a little too accurate and knows these things for sure, so I'll spoiler in case.

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It's going to be a 100% twist from the trailers. Here is how the heroes will show up and deal with each other.

We are led to believe that Batman is hunting Superman on behalf of humanity.

In reality, it's Superman who hunts down this vigilante of Gotham. Those wanting to see Superman gone are mostly those who believe that Batman exists and is keeping Gotham safe -- basically batman groupies. Batman is framed by the Joker to have killed Jason Todd/Robin, and Superman finds out about the story that Batman killed Robin, who was a friendlier superhero and one unequivocally on the side of good and revered by Gotham.

As for the Man of Steel events, there were very few witnesses, and the word is that Superman is not just a god, but he's one who is able to kill the Zod that the entire planet knows of (he broadcasted himself). It's widely accepted that Superman saved the world from Zod, where both sides of the globe experienced the world machine damage. But Bruce Wayne is skeptical as to Superman's moral compass, since few people know for sure that Superman HAD to kill -- and remember, this is Batman, who doesn't kill under ANY circumstance. Batman is incredibly concerned about this god who killed another god, meaning he could easily wipe out humanity.

Batman is nearing the end of his career. He is going to pretend to get sloppy and provoke Superman and try a gambit to get Superman to fight him...to death. Batman has his supporters but they're in the minority, but if Superman actually kills a human without due process, he will be vilified and feared as a weapon that completely goes against both constitutional and natural laws...especially when they find out that Superman killed not only Batman, but Bruce freaking Wayne.

Superman doesn't attack at first. But Batman has actually been working with Luthor for advantages, like krypton-tipped batarangs (we see the batarang scar/imprint on Superman's bare chest). Batman attacks and injures superman, looking like he's trying to kill him. Superman is starting to feel both 1) legitimately vulnerable and 2) that Batman is malicious.

Batman is beaten to near death and waits for superman's killing blow -- again, that's Batman's ultimate gambit, to die and show Superman's bad side so that humanity rallies to shut him down --but it never comes. Batman is now 100% assured that Supes HAD to kill Zod, as he would not kill someone trying to kill him but is no longer a threat (aka Batman, who nearly kills Superman, but is beaten to a pulp and can fight anymore, expecting death, but Superman exhibits restraint and never even considers killing him).

Alfred is glad Bruce is alive, and reassures him that Superman is indeed one of the good guys needed for the "war."

Batman is thus convinced that Superman doesn't kill unless lethal force is justified.

As for Wonder Woman, she's the one who helps Batman, and when she is engaged in combat against Superman, Batman is using his Luthor-innovated weapons to try to attack Supes. Superman incapacitates Wonder Woman, and it's then that it's just Batman V Superman.

As for Aquaman, he will get a cameo when the rocket launch in Florida (a place like Cape Canaveral) goes awry, and debris and half of the rocket are littered all over the Atlantic Ocean (if would make the most sense for him to be there, as it's in the middle of a bunch of major locations).

In the trailer, we only see half of the rocket being caught by Superman, and it's only the TOP half, which means the BOTTOM part with the throttle is at large and missing. Superman traces it and sees the bottom half headed for a cruise ship in the Atlantic, and Superman is racing to chase it down to save the cruise ship....but Aquaman saves them from getting hit by manipulating the water to create huge waves and a mini hurricane, with the hurricane slowing the rocket and washing out the throttle, and the waves are creating a 60-foot wave as a wall to block the ship from impact.

Superman arrives too late to save the rocket himself.

After a stare down, with Superman floating and Aquaman standing on top of a 40-foot spurt of water that re-feeds itself, almost like he's standing on top of a million gallon burst of water driving up out of the ocean looking like a bigger version of a broken fire hydrant spewing water.

Done staring each other down, looking at each other's good work, Superman and Aquaman have instant mutual trust, or at least respect.

This Aquaman will have hydrokinetic abilities, and they'll tone down the "I'm king of all ocean life and get fish and manta rays to help me out," which just doesn't work on screen and certainly doesn't work in the DCCU. What we get is a warrior with superhero strength and speed and the ability to control water. He is Aquaman and not "marine biology man."

We won't see the Flash. When Zod's body is being examined, Wally West is a lead forensic investigator and is the one who examines and researches Zod's DNA.

We find out that Luthor sabotaged the rocket launch to get Superman to show up. We find out that Lex helped both sides, Batman and Superman, to take each other out (Lex supplied the soldiers to Supes, supplied the weapons to Batman). Lexcorp gets a government contract to weaponize the krypton leftovers by reverse engineering....through Holly Hunter, the senator.

Wally West is just not feeling like this is...Right. Neither are the other heroes. Batman infiltrates Lexcorp to examine what is going on as Wally is working on Zod, and Wally is on Supes' side and opposes Batman. Again, we won't see the Flash, but that big yellow explosion that was made to look like Wonder Woman created it was an incident at STAR labs granting West powers. The most we see is West's POV on a certain action scene, with everything moving slowly, with vintage Zach Snyder slow motion action to be put in even slower, higher frame rate use. Wally knows he has increased reaction time but hasn't figured out that he can run fast...yet.

We find out Luthor has fingers in all sorts of pies, from corrupt politicians to corrupt businesses to conspiracies and illegal testing and inventions, including weapons of mass destruction. Lex loses his hair via chemotherapy through too much time spent with kryptonite radiation, giving him accelerated cancer. This is why he seeks Zod's body - he wants to see what is in the kryptonian DNA that allows them to withstand kryptonite radiation, even if it weakens them when yellow sun rays are mixed. The brief shot of the Asian lady is Lex's personal oncologist.

[Leon]

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Not exactly related to the thread, but I really like this analysis of what this DCCU is attempting to do with Superman.

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Snippet of what the guy said:

Jor-El sees humanity's potential. The Kents see what humanity actually is, and they're a lot more circumspect about what Clark should be doing with his life.

I kind of love Man of Steel for a reason that I found hard to articulate for a while, but I think what it boils down to this: Man of Steel is a pessimistic movie about hope.

[Leon]

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This actually makes sense as to what kind of Lex Luthor we're possibly getting.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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As many times as I've seen this trailer

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I didn't notice that those men had a Superman emblem on their uniform. Maybe it's a flash of how Batman thinks it could be when he was talking about how Superman has the power to wipe out the earth or something to that effect. Now I'm also very interested in finding out more about that

It reminded me of Red Son.

[jeebs9]

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It reminded me of Red Son.

Great comic!! I can't wait for them to animate that one.