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  • RockinDaMike
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    • Feb 2003
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    #481
    Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

    I don't get some of the negativity about this season as I enjoyed it a lot.

    Maybe it's because I don't expect things and I just sit back and soak up what they give me. I appreciate the show it's art. what other show gives this much in story, acting, costume design, sets, score and drama? I guess people can get spoiled and forget that we have an epic story being unfolded.
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    • HealyMonster
      Titans Era has begun.
      • Aug 2002
      • 5992

      #482
      Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

      Originally posted by fistofrage
      It's their story to tell, we're just watching it. However, if that was the end of Jon Snow, the scene absolutely failed to deliver, that should have been a Julius Caesar moment and it came off more like the Soap Bar Beating of Private Pile in Full Metal Jacket. It just felt more to me like they were teaching him a lesson rather than killing him.

      All the time they spent with the sand snakes/dorne, Bronn and Jamies singing burlesque show, Arya swabbing the deck, harpies stabbing people and taking down the supreme unsullied fighting force with butter knives and have Jon's final scene reduced to that, Stannis's showdown battle at winterfell turn into 30 seconds of Computer generated animation, and Tyrion and Jorahs amazing escape from the Harpy Mob(which wasn't even shown) after the Neverending Story parody was a letdown.

      I have no problem with the story, it's their story to tell whatever happens, happens. This season was a serious letdown from a directing/screenwriting perspective. If you build up to major events, at least give the major events the time and direction they deserve.
      One thing that really never gets brought up as well, is that this season was 2 books in 1 season. I mean they did book 3 over 2 seasons, books 4 and 5 were 1 season, so they flat out cut a whole bunch and had to ram through the rest of it.

      I get the feeling while watching, that the show runners were just trying to get to certain point, then then can have more creative freedom, so it was like heres this, this, and this, (our obligation to the books), and now that we got through books 4 and 5 now heres our version of how things are going to end.

      One thing that bothers (more disappoints than bothers...)me is a recent quote from GRRM, he basically says that he is playing with ideas currently regarding a character that the series has already determined its fate, but in the books he's leaning towards giving the character a larger role down the home stretch.

      it just seems like regardless if the winds of winter comes out before next season or not, the show is going to do its own thing from here on out, the end (IE: so and so stands overlooking kings landing, and lived happily ever after) may be the same, but i think from here on out how we get there will be very different between the books and the show.


      I mean, ultimately we don't know, the books could have Jon Snow reborn, and doing all these things, and ultimately gets defeated after a heel turn or something, and the show is like, ok...we aren't getting into all that, he's just dead, and we will still get to where we need to get to without that part.

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      • fistofrage
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        • Aug 2002
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        #483
        Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

        Originally posted by RockinDaMike
        I don't get some of the negativity about this season as I enjoyed it a lot.

        Maybe it's because I don't expect things and I just sit back and soak up what they give me. I appreciate the show it's art. what other show gives this much in story, acting, costume design, sets, score and drama? I guess people can get spoiled and forget that we have an epic story being unfolded.
        The sets, location, costumes are all awesome. I'm enjoying the story a lot. I do just sit back and watch it, it's their story to tell. I just think the delivery was lacking a bit this season compared to others.

        The acting in the North was great this year up until Stannis's and Jon's demise. The delivery of their ending was lacking for how much time was dedicated to them this year. Both ending's were rushed.

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        • Candyman5
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          • Nov 2006
          • 14380

          #484
          Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

          John Snow last episode spoiler:

          Spoiler


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          • Candyman5
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            • Nov 2006
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            #485
            Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

            Also here's what I think will happen with snow.

            They will burn the body of course but the red lady will say a ritual while he burns and revive him some how. Then snow walks out of the Flames umburned with white hair.
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            • kingkilla56
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              #486
              Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

              Originally posted by RockinDaMike
              I don't get some of the negativity about this season as I enjoyed it a lot.

              Maybe it's because I don't expect things and I just sit back and soak up what they give me. I appreciate the show it's art. what other show gives this much in story, acting, costume design, sets, score and drama? I guess people can get spoiled and forget that we have an epic story being unfolded.
              Come on man. This reminds me of the guy who says "maybe you should watch something else" when someone says something negative about his favorite show. "How can you complain when we have all these sweet costumes!?" What?

              Side note: Nothing wrong with just taking the show for what it is and soaking up what they give you. But Im over that. I'd rather watch with a critical lens.
              Last edited by kingkilla56; 06-20-2015, 05:38 AM.
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              • RockinDaMike
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                • Feb 2003
                • 9091

                #487
                Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                Come on man. This reminds me of the guy who says "maybe you should watch something else" when someone says something negative about his favorite show. "How can you complain when we have all these sweet costumes!?" What?

                Side note: Nothing wrong with just taking the show for what it is and soaking up what they give you. But Im over that. I'd rather watch with a critical lens.
                Ahh man don't be bothered about what I said. I just don't get the complaints about the story is all, when the story isn't finished.

                And if you want to complain go right ahead. I'm complaining too but it's towards the complainers.
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                • Boltman
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 18283

                  #488
                  Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                  Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                  Ahh man don't be bothered about what I said. I just don't get the complaints about the story is all, when the story isn't finished.

                  And if you want to complain go right ahead. I'm complaining too but it's towards the complainers.
                  Critical lens or not, he'll continue to watch just like us. He just may not enjoy it as much heh.

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                  • kingkilla56
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 19395

                    #489
                    Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                    I already admitted I'm in too deep to quit now. Holding out hope for a satisfying end (hopefully one that doesnt include Jesus Jon winning in the end lol).

                    I did humor leaving when Sansa got raped. Not because the rape itself, but because the show just leaves no room for hope...anywhere. On one hand I dont want Jesus Jon to deus ex machina his way to the end game but on the other hand it seems like Jesus Ramsay is the only alternative. Seriously has Ramsay ever not succeeded at something on this show? My goodness with him.

                    Its only a matter of time before he and his dogs hunt down Sansa and just wreck Reek (ps how did Sansa and Reek survive that fall? Myranda literally died seconds before, falling from the same height!).
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                    • Boltman
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                      • Mar 2004
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                      #490
                      Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                      Well I think she fell to stone or wood was it?

                      Reek & Sansa fell to foot upon foot of snow.

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                      • souljahbill
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                        • May 2010
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                        #491
                        Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                        Originally posted by kingkilla56

                        Its only a matter of time before he and his dogs hunt down Sansa and just wreck Reek (ps how did Sansa and Reek survive that fall? Myranda literally died seconds before, falling from the same height!).

                        Thick layer of powdered snow.
                        Last edited by souljahbill; 06-20-2015, 05:47 PM.

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                        • Leon
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 4981

                          #492
                          Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                          Sansa and Reek were basically this, but more alive.

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                          • Theschill38
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                            #493
                            Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                            I don't think we have seen the last of Stannis. He is too much of a tactical genius to just walk up to winterfell as shorthanded as he was, destiny or not. What if the half of is army didn't actually just take off? What if they are waiting somewhere nearby to claim Winterfell while Bolton's army was fighting with Stannis's group?

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                            • jasontoddwhitt
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                              • May 2003
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                              #494
                              Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                              Stannis wasn't thinking clearly. He had become a religious zealot who attacked Winter fell despite his lack of numbers because it was his destiny. Why else would he attack in winter? Or sacrifice his daughter to the god of light? He had become a fanatic.

                              It was only when he saw the Bolton banners approaching did he realize the errors of his ways.

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                              • ASB37
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2624

                                #495
                                Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

                                I too am weary of stannis being dead just because with GOT whenever a purported death happens as the camera cuts away it leaves the possibility open of said character not being dead. Although I think they did the same thing with ned in season 1, although if I recall correctly the first scene of the next episode started with his head on a spike, so that possibility didn't last long.

                                Hopefully Season 6 starts by addressing some of these potential cliffhangers, because if they ignore stannis and JS deaths, it's going to be a pretty big elephant in the room.

                                That being said Stannis was desperate, so his move on winterfell was his last ditch effort. He stubbornly refused to listen to davos about retreating, he scarficed his daugther in hopes the lord of light would throw some good luck his way, and with his army numbers and ratios dwindling he knew he had to strike while he still had an "army" left to attack winterfell with. By the time he attacked winterfell he was less tactical genius and more kool aid drinking religious lunatic.

                                Pretty drastic downfall.
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