Black Mass

[JayBee74]

Re: Black Mass

Good movie. I did not recognize Jesse Plemons (Todd, Breaking Bad) until about 1/3 through the movies. Noticeably heavier (as he is in Fargo, season 2), and wigged, I couldn't spot him until later.



W. Earl Brown (Dan Dority, Deadwood) does some good work as another thug working for Bulger.

[Knight165]

Re: Black Mass

Basically. Summary of the whole thing is that people are idiots.

Which people?

M.K.
Knight165

[Brandon13]

Re: Black Mass

"No disrespect to any victims or families of victims, but there was some element for me that was kind of glad that he got away," says Depp. "For 16 years he was on the lam and he wasn't causing any trouble. He was living his life. Good on him."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c0608...ger-black-mass

I can understand why he's caught some flak. That was a dumb comment.

[JayBee74]

Re: Black Mass

Stupid comment. Stupid comment.

Totally irrelevant, but Depp's performance guarantees him an Oscar nomination.

[Knight165]

Re: Black Mass

It was an asinine comment.

Making the movie is fine.....but trying to humanize someone who killed people with only regard for his own benefit and is a monster is out of line.....plain and simple.

His victims.....and you can't even argue that all he killed "knew what they were doing because of the life"(which still wouldn't justify it IMO)....

PROVEN:

_Paul McGonagle, 1974, rival gang member, shot in the back seat of a car.

_Edward Connors, 1975, witnessed O'Toole's killing, shot because Bulger's gang feared he would talk.

_Thomas King, 1975, rival gangster shot in back of the head, buried under the Neponset River Bridge in Quincy.

_Richard Castucci, 1976, nightclub owner, killed because Bulger believed he was an informant.

_Roger Wheeler, 1981, Owner of World Jai Alai, suspected Bulger's group of skimming money from the business, shot in between the eyes at a Tulsa, Okla., country club. Martorano testified that he did the shooting.

_Brian Halloran, 1982, An FBI informant who was talking to the FBI about Bulger's involvement in Wheeler's killing, shot in a hail of gunfire as he left a South Boston restaurant. Bulger is accused of being one of two triggermen.

_Michael Donahue, 1982, a neighbor of Halloran's who offered to give him a ride home, killed when Bulger and another man opened fire on Donahue's car.

_John Callahan, 1982, former president of World Jai Alai. Bulger feared he wouldn't hold up in questioned in Wheeler's death. Ex-hit man John Mortorano, a close friend of Callahan's, testified that he shot Callahan in the back of the head.

_Arthur "Bucky" Barrett, 1983, alleged jewel thief and bank robber. Bulger chained him to a chair, got him to tell him where he had cash hidden, then shot him in the head.

_John McIntyre, 1984, Quincy fisherman, Bulger chained him to a chair and interrogated him about whether he was talking to authorities. Bulger is accused of shooting him in the head.

_Deborah Hussey, 1985, daughter of Flemmi's longtime live-in girlfriend, Marion Hussey. Flemmi testified that Bulger strangled her because she was using drugs and dropping their names when she got in trouble.

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NOT PROVEN:

_Michael Milano, 1973, a bartender killed in a hail of gunfire, had a similar Mercedes-Benz and was mistaken for the target of the shooting, Al "Indian Al" Notarangeli. Former hit man John Martorano testified that he shot Milano in a case of mistaken identity.

_Al Plummer, 1973, member of a rival gang, killed as he drove in Boston's North End. Martorano testified that he killed Plummer by mistake as the gang tried to kill Notarangeli.

_William O'Brien, 1973, member of a rival gang, killed in a hail of gunfire as he drove in South Boston.

_James "Spike" O'Toole, 1973, shot to death as he stood behind a mailbox because he had shot and wounded the brother of Flemmi's partner, Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi.

_Al "Indian Al" Notarangeli, 1974, rival gang leader, shot to death after several failed attempts.

_James Sousa, 1974, participated with Bulger in a botched robbery of a dentist, was killed because Bulger worried he would talk.

_Francis "Buddy" Leonard, 1975, friend of King's, shot in head. Bulger then told people that King had killed Leonard.

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NO FINDING:

_Debra Davis, 1981, Flemmi's girlfriend, strangled. Flemmi testified that Bulger strangled her because she knew they were both FBI informants. Bulger's lawyer said Flemmi had a stronger motive to kill her because she was leaving him for another man.

To say that the families of those victims in bold have no reason to be upset that Depp basically praised the murderer of their family members is absurd.

M.K.
Knight165

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Black Mass

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c0608...ger-black-mass

I can understand why he's caught some flak. That was a dumb comment.

This quote is far worse than what was reported in the other article that's linked in here.


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[daflyboys]

Re: Black Mass

Saw this and was actually underwhelmed by the whole thing. As far as Depp's comment.... he's Hollywood.... 'nuff said.