Windows 10

[Altimus]

Re: Windows 10

People do realize they can hide the window icon right? Go to your "notification area icon" section in control panel items, and change the behavior of the windows 10 stuff from "show icon and notifications" to "hide icon and notifications"


21 days left for Windows 10 to release,and I'm still undecided on if I should install it or not.

And stupid question,but is there any need to backup any files on my computer if I do install that update? Or will all my files still be there? Cause I've never upgraded an OS before.

Your files will be there but it would be advised to backup just in case something goes wrong.

[daflyboys]

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People do realize they can hide the window icon right? Go to your "notification area icon" section in control panel items, and change the behavior of the windows 10 stuff from "show icon and notifications" to "hide icon and notifications"


21 days left for Windows 10 to release,and I'm still undecided on if I should install it or not.

And stupid question,but is there any need to backup any files on my computer if I do install that update? Or will all my files still be there? Cause I've never upgraded an OS before.

Despite picking those options, it returns. And yes...backup is essential.

[killerx2]

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can i get a copy of it for free?
i am building a pc and would love to save some money on the software and just keep my current pc on windows 8

[mestevo]

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Yes. Become a windows insider and never opt out of the program (you'll get newer versions of the OS and features as they're released as a beta/soak tester) and your copy of Windows 10 will be free and stay that way.

http://insider.windows.com

[Picci]

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Questions are starting to come out now regarding how free Win10 will be....Computerworld which obtained Microsoft internal slides suggest many Windows 10 owners will have to start paying to receive updates within two years.

The key lines ComputerWorld discovered are:

Microsoft has quietly revealed more information about how long it will provide updates for Windows 10, saying in a PowerPoint presentation that free refreshes will last between two and four years.


The Redmond, Wash. company revealed the timeline in a slide deck it posted on its investors website June 26. The presentation offered up additional information about Microsoft's planned revenue deferrals for Windows 10, which the company first talked about in May.

"Revenue allocated is deferred and recognized on a straight-line basis over the estimated period the software upgrades are expected to be provided by estimated device life," the most pertinent slide stated. "[The estimated device life] can range from two to four years."

Microsoft will determine the device lifetime -- and thus the support stretch -- by "customer type."

Forbes Contributor, Gordon Kelly asked for clarification of the terms used in these slides including “supported lifetime of the device” but have been told Microsoft is “not yet sharing full details of the service model”.

With Windows 10 going on sale in just over two weeks I have asked Microsoft to reconsider and will update if it does.

So what does “two to four years” mean? Is it two or is it four?

In light of no official clarification from Microsoft the slides can help – if not result in formal conclusions. In a change of language Microsoft states device lifetime will be determined by “customer type” whereas it had previously stated it would be determined by “form factor”.

This may prove crucial. For example ‘Form factor’ should mean a phone where two years of support isn’t great, but survivable and similarly four years support for a tablet or PC which isn’t great but it is survivable. But defining by ‘customer type’ invokes Microsoft’s two main customer licence types: Home (average consumer) and Professional (prosumer/business).

By this new definition “two to four years” would mean two years free support for Windows 10 Home users regardless of their device type and up to four years free support for Windows 10 Pro users regardless of their device type.


Two years free support on a PC is garbage. It would see Windows 10 free support expire in 2017 while Windows 7 and Windows 8 free support doesn’t expire until January 2020 and 2023 respectively. Could this really happen? Again without Microsoft spelling it out we can’t say.

What’s more it also opens up an even bigger question: what follows the expiry of free support?

[Majingir]

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Only 2 years of support...Would it be bad to keep Windows 10 after those 2 years even without support or what?

[mestevo]

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Really depends what support means. I'm not concerned. They will make their money from oems, business customers and other software.

[p_rushing]

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Only 2 years of support...Would it be bad to keep Windows 10 after those 2 years even without support or what?

Really depends what support means. I'm not concerned. They will make their money from oems, business customers and other software.

Reading the statement from Microsoft, its not really a big deal. What it means is that the current computer you have now will be supported for 2-4 years without you having to pay anything. So its only the computers that you upgrade to Windows 10 that matter. If you just bought a computer recently, the product life cycle is probably no more than 4 years unless you are just doing mainly web stuff and you don't care that much about performance.

[Picci]

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Reading the statement from Microsoft, its not really a big deal. What it means is that the current computer you have now will be supported for 2-4 years without you having to pay anything. So its only the computers that you upgrade to Windows 10 that matter. If you just bought a computer recently, the product life cycle is probably no more than 4 years unless you are just doing mainly web stuff and you don't care that much about performance.

But 2 to 4 years? If Win7 and Win8 free support doesn’t expire until January 2020 and 2023, two to four years sounds ridiculous, no? Continued support will be a future fee. Four, I guess I can stomach it. Two is ????? Of course MS can easily answer the question.

[p_rushing]

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But 2 to 4 years? If Win7 and Win8 free support doesn’t expire until January 2020 and 2023, two to four years sounds ridiculous, no? Continued support will be a future fee. Four, I guess I can stomach it. Two is ????? Of course MS can easily answer the question.

Windows 10 will be supported, but licenses are now tied to the cpu and all the hardware, so MS is saying that 2-4 years, most people will have bought a new computer and new license. So for those few people who do the upgrade and keep the computer longer than 4 years, they may have to pay then. Anyone buying Windows 10 will have the normal full lifetime support.

[Speedy]

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Means I'm cancelling my upgrade then.

[LambertandHam]

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Windows 10 will be supported, but licenses are now tied to the cpu and all the hardware, so MS is saying that 2-4 years, most people will have bought a new computer and new license. So for those few people who do the upgrade and keep the computer longer than 4 years, they may have to pay then. Anyone buying Windows 10 will have the normal full lifetime support.

Eh? Granted 4 years is a decent chunk of time, but I don't like the idea of turning my computer on one day and having MS take a ransomware approach. Especially since my old gaming computer usually turns into the new living room computer upon upgrades.

[Candyman5]

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So if I'm not planing on upgrading in 4 years with my built PC then don't get Windows 10?

[p_rushing]

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Unless there is something in the agreement for the upgrade, they are probably going to have a hard time doing this. Plus all the people will really be pissed off as they have a valid license, but MS says it's now not valid. I would bet that they end up not changing anything, unless they are going to try and do it everyone.

[Picci]

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Biggest question I have is sharing. Win10 is suppose to link with everything. XBox1, Phones, Tablet, PC, etc.... Will your license cover everything or will you need to pay per cpu/hardware?