Big Brother 17: (Hopefully better than 16,15,14,13....)

[dickey1331]

Re: Big Brother 17: (Hopefully better than 16,15,14,13....)

Finally this show starts to get good then I find out I get to leave for 2 months.

[Majingir]

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How did Vanessa seriously pull that off? She got Julia to do the stupidest thing she could've done in that comp! If Julia won veto, then Julia,Austin,Liz are all safe that week AND control who goes home! I'm actually starting to think Julia would've listened to Vanessa if she won veto to not use it on Liz cause Vanessa can guarantee Liz stays.

Seriously...Julia just did a real stupid thing in that comp.

Now Liz most likely goes home, Austin-Julia not gonna work together, and F2 prob ends up Vanessa and Steve.

Vanessa has played best game out of everyone but still....shes so crazy and emotional.

[p_rushing]

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Vanessa's plan is to send Liz home and then create F2 deals with Julia and Austin.

Julia doesn't know the game, so she just goes along with stuff. I still don't know how they didn't get everything straight beforehand though.

I hope Austin isn't stupid enough to go back to Vanessa like was shown. Hopefully John and Austin vote to keep Liz because if they vote her out, Vanessa has another ally in Julia.


And Steve ... I don't know what to say. Austin needs to go punch him or something to force him to grow a pair, can we just not put him on tv anymore? Him and Vanessa can go cry all the time.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

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I don't care who wins, I just don't want it to be Vanessa. Tired of her crying.

[Majingir]

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Vanessa's plan is to send Liz home and then create F2 deals with Julia and Austin.

Julia doesn't know the game, so she just goes along with stuff. I still don't know how they didn't get everything straight beforehand though.

I hope Austin isn't stupid enough to go back to Vanessa like was shown. Hopefully John and Austin vote to keep Liz because if they vote her out, Vanessa has another ally in Julia.

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Really, for John/Steve, Julia staying might be best for their game. Cause Julia-Austin won't be as close, so they could have a chance to lure in one of those to take out Vanessa. If Austin-Liz are together, then Vanessa is in the middle and once again,she controls the game.

They did have a plan before the comp that if they could throw it to Julia,they would. But Vanessa somehow convinced her to chose Austin!?!? Just a flat out stupid move by Julia. And even worse, somehow Vanessa convinced them that Austin wasn't gonna throw it to Julia? How stupid are they that they believed that?!? Why wouldn't Austin throw it if it meant Julia 100% won? She'd win, take Liz off,and they vote to keep Austin and that's it.....

Then next HOH comp is Julia,Liz,Austin vs John. One of those 3 wins it,gets Steve or John out,then F4 is Austin,Liz,Julia,Steve/John. So it's almost guarantee that F2 would've contained at least 1 of Liz/Julia.

[l3ulvl]

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I don't care who wins, I just don't want it to be Vanessa. Tired of her crying.

For me, she's probably my least liked person in Big Brother history. Granted, I've only been watching a few years, but I can't stand her. It's actually become difficult to watch the show when she's running her shtick. Problem is, if they don't get rid of her before the final two or three or whatever they do to decide the winner, I'd have to give her my vote because her antics have worked, and I hate saying that.

[Majingir]

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There's no way she's anywhere close to most annoying of all time. Even just among the notable players of the game in recent years.

[l3ulvl]

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There's no way she's anywhere close to most annoying of all time. Even just among the notable players of the game in recent years.

I strongly disagree, but you know what they say about opinions

[Trent Booty]

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If I was Vanessa, I would've blown up Austwins whole game after that comp. I definitely would've said he tried to get Julia to go last week. I'd stretch the truth a bit but I'd get Johnny and zSteve to play along too, and we all know she probably could get them too fairly easy lol.

I really hope Liz goes.

[p_rushing]

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If I was Vanessa, I would've blown up Austwins whole game after that comp. I definitely would've said he tried to get Julia to go last week. I'd stretch the truth a bit but I'd get Johnny and zSteve to play along too, and we all know she probably could get them too fairly easy lol.

I really hope Liz goes.

Vanessa wants Austin though also. So she can't go too crazy, although a normal person would see what she is doing.


If you want Vanessa not to win, Liz has to stay. Then it's 2 v 2 v 1, so they target Vanessa for the week. Then the 4 can fight it out.

If Liz goes, then Vanessa has a fine 2 deal with everyone left in the house and won't be going home.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

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Vanessa makes me miss Amanda haha

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[Majingir]

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lol, surprised people hate Vanessa that much. Sure she's annoying and overly emotional and all, but I'd still rather her over someone like Rachel,Amanda,Elissa and so on.

[l3ulvl]

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lol, surprised people hate Vanessa that much. Sure she's annoying and overly emotional and all, but I'd still rather her over someone like Rachel,Amanda,Elissa and so on.

I think Frankie is the only other HG that annoyed me as much as Vanessa, but part of what bothers me is the rest of the HGs continuously falling for everything she says/does, so I guess it's not entirely on her. I'm trying to put myself in her shoes though, if I start acting like a complete turd and it somehow helps me skate through the game, should I stop acting like a turd? Not the best example I know, but I'm curious if she actually acts like this in the real world or if she just keeps doing it because it's carried her so far

[Majingir]

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The part I want to know about, is whether she's doing it on purpose. Cause she said to Julia she wasn't trying to play her(and that she swears on various people in her life that she's not lying).

Maybe she actually was being honest and she wasn't actually trying to play Julia lol.

Reasons like this are why I want BB finales to be 2 hours or longer. They need to make it like Survivor where they have a "reunion show" that's an hour long, so they can talk more indepth about the game. And in BBs case, show the HGs all the big moments they never got to see while in the house, and HGs can actually talk about if certain thing were gameplay or not.

The way they do it now, we get maybe 5-10 minutes of the "what the HGs didn't see" things and that's it. And last year I think it was,they brought back the members evicted before the jury,and didn't even bother talking to them. They just introduced those people,and that was it,no question to them at all(or any "is there anything you want the HGs know about"). Some of the best moments of the finale are getting to see HGs reactions to the things in the game they never knew about.

[jeremym480]

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I think Frankie is the only other HG that annoyed me as much as Vanessa, but part of what bothers me is the rest of the HGs continuously falling for everything she says/does, so I guess it's not entirely on her. I'm trying to put myself in her shoes though, if I start acting like a complete turd and it somehow helps me skate through the game, should I stop acting like a turd? Not the best example I know, but I'm curious if she actually acts like this in the real world or if she just keeps doing it because it's carried her so far

Vanessa is starting to grow on me a little bit, but that's only because the rest of the cast is so weak/dumb. It's like Vanessa is the only one left in the house who can make a compelling argument about anything. I thought she would have to adjust her"talk really fast to try to confuse/intimidate people, then if that fails start crying" method, but apparently it keeps working, so why change? At this point she looks like a wizard compared to the rest of the bozo's in the house.

I'd still rather see Johnny and probably Steve win instead of her though.