Survivor 33: Millennials vs Gen X

[JayhawkerStL]

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Personally, I thought Hannah deserved it among the final three. David would have won had Ken remained loyal. But it was Hannah, not Adam, that got Ken to vote David out.

I thought her transformation story was as powerful as David's, and she did a far better job of playing both sides than Adam. I don't think people understood just how smart her thinking was when it came to voting out Brett over David. Despite adam's full court press, she observed, correctly, that her alliance with Ken would crumble, leaving no one to take her to the end had she voted out David. And her plan got her to Final 3.

Chris just screwed it up because he was still so upset with getting played by David over and over and over. The fact is, he was a terrible player, and it seems like he provided the big push to vote Adam.

Still a great season, though. And yeah, the next season looks flipping fantastic. I don't like it when they start doing too many fan favorite type shows, but this is the way to do it. No fans, just favorites. I prefer to watch the fans take on the show without having to deal with vets.

[shugknight]

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Ok honestly guys,

If you were on the jury, if Adam never revealed his mother's illness, do you think he gets the votes?

I told the wife at the start that I thought Hannah would win. I honestly thought it was going to be a close 3 way tie, but that Hannah was the most likeable out of the 3.

I give props to Adam for not revealing it when Jay asked him a question.

I also give him props for stating "Whether I win this or not" instead of "I'm trying to win this for her" pitch.

But once his story got out, I mean I don't think there was a dry eye for anyone that was watching.

I felt bad for Ken. I think he thought he was easily going to get a good amount of votes, until the Jury started shafting him with the questions.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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The should have thrown some guaranteed money at Russel to get him to come back.

Edit - Decided to read his Twitter to see what he was up to. Sounds like he would have gone back if asked.

[jeremym480]

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I didn't have a problem with Adam winning. I thought that the Final 3 was fairly even, so I wouldn't have had a problem with Hannah or Ken winning either. I thought Hannah played a little better of a strategical game while Ken played a better physical game by winning immunities. I'm not sure who played the better social game of the three, but Ken and Hannah aren't social butterflies so I guess Adam wins that by default? I thought it was weird that the jury gave Adam credit for Ken's flip on Dave in my opinion that should have been Ken's move. With that said once Adam said the stuff about his mom, then I think it sealed the deal for him.

All and all I thought it was a great finale. The only disappointment of the night for me was that Jeff didn't ask the jury if they would have voted for Dave to win if Ken would have taken Dave instead of Adam... but I guess that would have been an awkward question with Adam's family sobbing on the front row. I am happy for Adam and his family that something positive came from all that they went through. I wouldn't mind seeing him play again in a future season.

I'm pumped already about Season 34. I think it's a little later than normal, but March 7th isn't too far away. http://insidesurvivor.com/cast/season-34-cast

[Majingir]

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Ok honestly guys,

If you were on the jury, if Adam never revealed his mother's illness, do you think he gets the votes?

Who knows, but it was weird seeing the votes play out. David and Jessica were in alliance with Ken, Taylor hated Adam. 3 votes right there I thought Ken would've had.

The should have thrown some guaranteed money at Russel to get him to come back.

Edit - Decided to read his Twitter to see what he was up to. Sounds like he would have gone back if asked.

I think people have had enough of him and his family on shows. He played 3 times, his nephew played twice, his brother played on big brother once. His brother got kicked off of BB, and Brandon basically got kicked off(when his tribe voted him out at a challenge,and Jeff had to calm him down). People know the exact gameplayer he is, and he's just too big a target to ever last far in the game again. People will literally throw away their own games just to get him out, which is what happened on the Redemption Island season.

[elTodd]

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Ken had no realistic shot at winning against any of the people in that Final 6. He and Hannah were both doomed from the start of the episode. Hannah's main problem is that her pitch at Final Tribal didn't match up with people's perceptions of how the game played out. They never saw her as being the one behind these big moves.

I think Adam got a lot of credit for having good relationships with a lot of people on the other side. Even though Taylor didn't really like Adam for the Figgy vote, and one of his main goals was to take him out, I think there was a real level of respect between them. Same goes with Jay. They hated each other at times, and yet their bond seemed stronger than most in the season.

If David or Jay (or hell, even Bret) were sitting in Adam's position at Final 3, they would have won easily as well. I think you could argue that David played a better game than Adam. At least it was the more unlikely at the beginning of the season. But Adam definitely deserved to win, especially up against Ken and Hannah.

[wwharton]

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He wasn't the best gameplayer, but his personal life was a compelling story. A homeless shelter manager whose mom was deathly ill(and ended up dying right after he got back). Sure, Ken playing the game for his daughter was a nice story too(even more so since Ken acted almost the exact opposite way you'd expect a model to act, which is a compliment to him), but for me I just think Adams was a stronger one. So many people play the game for their kids, but very few play for a very sick parent who also happens to be such a huge Survivor fan.

I'm saying all this, while having Adam be 4th or 5th of my list of people I most wanted to win of the final 6 people in the game(David,Ken,Hannah, in order, were my top 3)

I agree with all of this BUT that's reason to win, not need for the money (which is what I thought we were talking about). We can throw on the money he'll be giving to charity connected to his story, but that's not strong enough to say he deserved the money (imo).

Either way, we agree he deserved it in TODAY'S Survivor (and I'm not saying that the previous way was better either, just that they seemed to analyze "deserving the reward" differently).

Ok honestly guys,

If you were on the jury, if Adam never revealed his mother's illness, do you think he gets the votes?

I told the wife at the start that I thought Hannah would win. I honestly thought it was going to be a close 3 way tie, but that Hannah was the most likeable out of the 3.

I give props to Adam for not revealing it when Jay asked him a question.

I also give him props for stating "Whether I win this or not" instead of "I'm trying to win this for her" pitch.

But once his story got out, I mean I don't think there was a dry eye for anyone that was watching.

I felt bad for Ken. I think he thought he was easily going to get a good amount of votes, until the Jury started shafting him with the questions.

Honestly, no... but it's an unfair "what if". Whether it was all part of the plan or not, he handled the situation perfectly and every move he made with that information seemed extremely genuine. I just chalk it up to it all playing out perfectly, and that includes giving away his advantage earlier in the game. No doubt others gained respect for him for that, especially as the pieces of the puzzle began to make more sense. All of that AND making it to the final 3 to give me a chance to vote for you? Yeah, they had to.

[shugknight]

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I agree. I didn't mean to sound like Adam didn't deserve to win. Honestly, with those 3, ranking who played the best game..

Adam
Hannah
Ken

I just thought Hannah would get the jury votes because normally that's how its played out.

[wwharton]

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I agree. I didn't mean to sound like Adam didn't deserve to win. Honestly, with those 3, ranking who played the best game..

Adam
Hannah
Ken

I just thought Hannah would get the jury votes because normally that's how its played out.

Oh yeah, didn't take it that way... was just answering the question.

Considering how it all played out, I think everyone was happy he ended up winning.

[Majingir]

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Crazy Survivor news to pass along:

Michael Skupin(from Australia and Philippines season) sentenced to 1-4 years in prison.