Big Brother 20

[jake44np]

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She's not fake, more like unstable (split personality or something like that). Production knows how to control her.

Not to mention, DRs can be edited any way BB wants to. It's why many players in past have hated their edits in certain situations. Yes, they did say what they did, but when you're in the DR for 20-30 minutes at a time, and production needs only a few soundbites for the show, they can spin it whatever way they want. Even using comments from a prior week (which you can tell at times,with a HG wearing completely different clothes while talking about the same topic).


Something random/funny I thought of. Imagine if Sam was sitting there with Julie when Julie signed off with "Chen-Moonves". Sam doesn't know anything about Julie, probably hears HGs call her Julie Chen, so hearing Moonves might make Sam think Julie recently got married (and knowing Sam, she'd probably congratulate Julie on air lol). That's an awkward moment BB avoided.

Yeah she's totally fake.
They can edit the things she said all they want. But she said the same thing over and over each week that she was nominated. That there would be hell to pay the day she walked out the door. Again she said it about 10 different times. And nothing, nothing at all when she got booted, again she is fake. Or put on a fake front in the DR.
Just because someone is unstable doesn't mean they are not fake.
And she doesn't have split personalities. Someone with real split personalities couldn't be in the BB environment. Nor would they let someone on with it. Split personality disorder is a super serious condition that must be monitored and requires a lot of meds.

[JayhawkerStL]

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Not really the place for the discussion but she has a lot of women upset with her.
Lots of women on twitter last night after her announcement bashing her.
Apparently she was a strong voice for the #metoo movement. Now she has backed away from them.
If have of the things about her husband are true, its not going to end well for them.

I don't think it is going to be that bad. They obviously have the wealth to keep on living their lives. But they also have a nine-year-old son.

She has not attacked the women, CBS or the #metoo movement. Marriage really is about taking the good with the bad, and we just don't know the details of their lives. He may have been in therapy and changing for the better, acknowledging his terrible past to her. I don't have a problem with her sticking with him as long as she is comfortable with who he is.

To be fair, she began dating him while he was still married, and it's pretty clear that his position with CBS is why Julie Chen has as strong of a career as she does. So she is also a bit complicit.

It's also worth noting that these allegations same up as Viacom was moving in to take control away from Moonves, and there may be a lot more to the story than what we hear.

I've been married for 23 years, and have been living with my wife for 26. She has stuck by me through some questionable moments, and I am a better person today for having her by my side. Mostly, if I am honest about what I have done, my regrets, and am open with what needs to be done to correct a situation, she is forgiving as hell. Of course, cheating on her and physical abuse of her or our daughter would have been red lines.

We did have an interesting talk the other night about Kavanaugh's confirmation where she talked about if she were to be put up for a judgeship (she is a partner in mid-side law firm) and how my past would factor in. If we got down to a an FBI background, I might present some issues for her, and it really made me feel like a ****. Mostly because, on a couple of things, I involved her, and while we moved past that, it would make for an uncomfortable discussion today. Some would even wonder why she stayed with me.

But there is always more to a relationship than anyone outside it knows. Our philosophy has always been that we are a team, and we battle every problem we face together. Suddenly going it alone seems worse than just acting as a team absorbing each other's issues and problems as our own.

[JayhawkerStL]

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Yeah she's totally fake.
They can edit the things she said all they want. But she said the same thing over and over each week that she was nominated. That there would be hell to pay the day she walked out the door. Again she said it about 10 different times. And nothing, nothing at all when she got booted, again she is fake. Or put on a fake front in the DR.
Just because someone is unstable doesn't mean they are not fake.
And she doesn't have split personalities. Someone with real split personalities couldn't be in the BB environment. Nor would they let someone on with it. Split personality disorder is a super serious condition that must be monitored and requires a lot of meds.

Dude, she just human. Not following through on a private promise to go crazy is maturity, not fake.

She was not a good fit for the game, never really understood how the game is played, and definitely has a judgmental personality that comes off terribly when producers are just looking for the most extreme moments to put into the 120 minutes or so they have to fill up a show each week.

She remained one of my favorite people in the ouse long after I realized she had no shot to win the game.

[jake44np]

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Dude, she just human. Not following through on a private promise to go crazy is maturity, not fake.

She was not a good fit for the game, never really understood how the game is played, and definitely has a judgmental personality that comes off terribly when producers are just looking for the most extreme moments to put into the 120 minutes or so they have to fill up a show each week.

She remained one of my favorite people in the ouse long after I realized she had no shot to win the game.

I guess your right.
To me and were I was raised if you talk that much behind people's backs and then just smile at them when they boot you, it comes off as fake.
I was just expecting more out of her. I was expecting her to do the things she said she would do about 10 times.
Pretty sure she will go back and watch it all again and she how fake she looked.

If she really did just realize how stupid she was acting and then suddenly matured then I guess you are right. I just don't think that is what happened.
I think she was just all talk.

[JayhawkerStL]

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If you think it was behind people's backs, you were watching a different show then I was watching.

Do you not remember her nomination speech? And when she called Angela a bitch behind her back, she went to her and apologized.

She's not perfect, but I don't see any reason to get all worked up over her game. She ceased to have an active role in it weeks ago. She seems completely depressed, to me. These are not people she would normally interact with, and the nature of the game means every conversation tainted with distrust. She progressively isolated herself more and more all game long, which just made it worse.

So, yeah, you caught her not being consistent. I just usually have compassion for someone that is showing all the signs of depression and isolation. I guess if I were raised in a better place I could learn to judge her for the fake *** person she is. I guess I'm just not as lucky as you.

[jake44np]

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If you think it was behind people's backs, you were watching a different show then I was watching.

Do you not remember her nomination speech? And when she called Angela a bitch behind her back, she went to her and apologized.

She's not perfect, but I don't see any reason to get all worked up over her game. She ceased to have an active role in it weeks ago. She seems completely depressed, to me. These are not people she would normally interact with, and the nature of the game means every conversation tainted with distrust. She progressively isolated herself more and more all game long, which just made it worse.

So, yeah, you caught her not being consistent. I just usually have compassion for someone that is showing all the signs of depression and isolation. I guess if I were raised in a better place I could learn to judge her for the fake *** person she is. I guess I'm just not as lucky as you.

I am not worked up at all buddy, its just a tv show.
Purely entertainment for me.
Lets just agree to disagree and move on.
Like I have said a bunch of times now, I was expecting more out of her when she was finally sent out the door.

[Marino]

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I honestly have no issue with any of the 4 left winning but I think Kaycee has played the best game and deserves the W. Rooting for her but would not be upset with anyone winning honestly. Each have done enough in my opinion.

[jake44np]

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I honestly have no issue with any of the 4 left winning but I think Kaycee has played the best game and deserves the W. Rooting for her but would not be upset with anyone winning honestly. Each have done enough in my opinion.

I totally agree.
But I am rooting for Tyler. I picked him to win early on so I am sticking with him.
He has to take Angela to the final 2 for him to win.
If KC makes the final 2 I really think she I going to win.

I am going to predict that JC puts up KC and Angela and that KC goes next.
Probably am totally wrong but that is what I see happening.

[Majingir]

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Sam was probably the most real/genuine person in the house. She had no idea what Big Brother was, and the entire season didn't know what was going on. But despite that, she just carried on like she would in real life. Cleaning the house, cooking food, doing regular household things, just enjoying the little things. Like when Brett got evicted, she was telling him she'll pack his things neatly/respectfully. And that wave when leaving the house too.

At least on her good days she was like that. I think she was cutting down on smoking, so obviously she'd have days where she's grumpy.

[JayhawkerStL]

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I totally agree.
But I am rooting for Tyler. I picked him to win early on so I am sticking with him.
He has to take Angela to the final 2 for him to win.
If KC makes the final 2 I really think she I going to win.

I am going to predict that JC puts up KC and Angela and that KC goes next.
Probably am totally wrong but that is what I see happening.

It doesn't matter who JC puts up. Whoever wins veto decides who goes. Or, if JC wins veto, he decides who decides who goes. Nominations means nothing at Final Four.

[Majingir]

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Too bad we won't get Tyler/Angela in F2.



But at least Tyler is going to the end. KC or JC winning final HOH surely take him to the finals. Will be interesting to see how jury votes if it's KC vs Tyler. 4 of past 8 finales have been decided by 1 vote including the last 2.

KC easily could've beaten Angela in F2, so I'm surprised she'd stick to her F2 with Tyler knowing she could lose to him.

Just hope jury isn't bitter. Haleigh seems like the most rational juror.

[l3ulvl]

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Too bad we won't get Tyler/Angela in F2.



But at least Tyler is going to the end. KC or JC winning final HOH surely take him to the finals. Will be interesting to see how jury votes if it's KC vs Tyler. 4 of past 8 finales have been decided by 1 vote including the last 2.

KC easily could've beaten Angela in F2, so I'm surprised she'd stick to her F2 with Tyler knowing she could lose to him.

Just hope jury isn't bitter. Haleigh seems like the most rational juror.

I've been on the Tyler train all season but now I'm starting to shift to Kaycee. She's playing the honorable game that usually gets you tossed aside in BB, but she's backing it up with constant comp wins. It's crazy, even when she had the chance to dump Tyler she honored her final two. It's like a combination of ignorance and dominance, a pretty rare BB combination. Even though I've been pulling for Tyler all this time, it would be fun to see someone win while not lying, and instead annihilating comps.

We usually reward liars and snakes because that's just how the game is played, and I've been talking to my friend about how lying and scheming is how you win at BB, unless the jury gets mad, and she doesn't care, she wants an honorable loyal game, which is laughable to me, yet here Kaycee is, showing it can be done.

[Majingir]

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What Dan said is sadly gonna be true. More times we see a game like Tylers lose, the less we'll see people play like that.

Why bother being a strategist, leading an alliance or doing any of that when you won't win?

How many dominating/controlling players have won when making it to the end?

[l3ulvl]

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What Dan said is sadly gonna be true. More times we see a game like Tylers lose, the less we'll see people play like that.

Why bother being a strategist, leading an alliance or doing any of that when you won't win?

How many dominating/controlling players have won when making it to the end?

is it necessarily a bad thing that the show can grow and teach values as a path to victory?

lol I almost typed that with a serious face

[Majingir]

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is it necessarily a bad thing that the show can grow and teach values as a path to victory?

lol I almost typed that with a serious face

Survivor has tried changing jury philosophy with their new jury debate part mainly in response to them awarding an invisible player the win, among other bad results in jury history.

At very least, why not have the old format? 7 person jury, and jury gets to talk with final 3 the day before the finale. So they get as much time as needed instead of the scripted timed live Q&A stuff that they have now. 9 person jury is too much. And those first 2 jurors haven't been in the game in over a month, probably closer to 2 months. How can they really judge the finalists?

Not that I have a problem with Kaycee winning. She's 2nd best player of the season. But I've wanted Tyler to win since my preseason pick and would be one of my favourite winners. Not Dan or boggie level, but better than Hayden. Very rarely in any show does my winner pick go this far, let alone have realistic shot to win. Even this upcoming survivor season I'm sure my pick since May won't even make jury.